Dropping the atomic bombs on Japan is/was seen as a necessary evil, but...

[DeadlyDynasty]

do you consider the Allied bombing of Dresden in a similar light--or as a war crime?

[Koolaid_Man]

do you consider the Allied bombing of Dresden in a similar light--or as a war crime?

Negative...dropping bombs on the Japs was an act of Terrorism by the US. It was a complete violation of the rules of war. They attacked our military and in turn we attacked their civilians.. why do you think there's so much terrorism in the world today...its because the US provided the blue prints by attacking innocent civilians. As usual though US citizens are ill informed or simply like to turn a blind eye. Terrorists are doing nothing but copying our style.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Negative...dropping bombs on the Japs was an act of Terrorism by the US. It was a complete violation of the rules of war. They attacked our military and in turn we attacked their civilians.. why do you think there's so much terrorism in the world today...its because the US provided the blue prints by attacking innocent civilians. As usual though US citizens are ill informed or simply like to turn a blind eye. Terrorists are doing nothing but copying our style.

An actual amphibious assault/invasion of the Japanese mainland would've been much more costly for both sides--and Japanese cities (and their civilians) would've been reduced to rubble.

[Koolaid_Man]

An actual amphibious assault/invasion of the Japanese mainland would've been much more costly for both sides--and Japanese cities (and their civilians) would've been reduced to rubble.

Is your arguement justified terrorism?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Is your arguement justified terrorism?

Basically, yes. That's what I mean when I say "necessary evil." Kill some to save many more. Even after the 2nd bomb hit Nagasaki, Emperor Hirohito had to be talked into surrendering. The bombing of Dresden just has a different feel to it (at least for me) though since it served no strategic purpose.

[DarrinS]

Negative...dropping bombs on the Japs was an act of Terrorism by the US. It was a complete violation of the rules of war. They attacked our military and in turn we attacked their civilians.. why do you think there's so much terrorism in the world today...its because the US provided the blue prints by attacking innocent civilians. As usual though US citizens are ill informed or simply like to turn a blind eye. Terrorists are doing nothing but copying our style.

And yet, Japanese aren't committing terror attacks

[Koolaid_Man]

Basically, yes. That's what I mean when I say "necessary evil." Kill some to save many more. Even after the 2nd bomb hit Nagasaki, Emperor Hirohito had to be talked into surrendering. The bombing of Dresden just has a different feel to it (at least for me) though since it served no strategic purpose.

so then from his perspective you can fully understand why Osama felt justified in 911?

[Koolaid_Man]

And yet, Japanese aren't committing terror attacks

when have they ever? isn't military fair game? are you advocating US Imperialism through State sponsored Terrorism in order to control the poppy seed fields of Afghanistan .

[DarrinS]

so then from his perspective you can fully understand why Osama felt justified in 911?

[DarrinS]

when have they ever? isn't military fair game? are you advocating US Imperialism through State sponsored Terrorism in order to control the poppy seed fields of Afghanistan .

Is this what they teach you kids these days? smh

[Koolaid_Man]

^ so are you gonna snap yo fangers and roll your neck as well?

so who's side was God on anyway? Some Muslims would argue 911 is God's plan. Most Americans would say killing Osama was God's will...which is it?

[DeadlyDynasty]

when have they ever?

scro, look up Rape of Nanking and Unit 731

[Koolaid_Man]

Is this what they teach you kids these days? smh

So when the US attacks Japanese citizens in the name of "war" you're ok with that...why not go after their military bases and emperor palaces....instead we wanted to kill women and children enmass to send a very evil message. The Japanese didn't hide behind their women and children like Islamic extremists do...so there was no excuse for the bomb...we can't decry terrorism when it's convenient...all we have to do is acknowledge that the birth place of modern day terror started in the US, transformed into the KKK and now the various militia groups around the country...

[Koolaid_Man]

scro, look up Rape of Nanking and Unit 731

Interesting read but that was a "local" / regional issue that had nothing to do with Americans or it's allies. Crimes against your own people and crimes against humanity in general has always existed. KKK is a good example...not only did the US do nothing when black (women and children) were tortured , burned alive, balls cut off, hanged, and beheaded and raped...our government actually encouraged it and sponsored it.

So Nanking and Unit 731 is nothing more than the pot calling the kettle black....

[monosylab1k]

Watch White Light/Black Rain, excellent do entary about the bombings.

Also, this Chomsky quote is the ultimate truth bomb.

"If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged."

[Koolaid_Man]

one more thing Deads...the US has a history of doing like Unit 731..they're just real good at hiding it...but here's one of the more infamous ones that reached the public light:

The Tuskegee syphilis experiment conducted between 1932 and 1972 - where the US Govnt. injected black men with diseases to study the natural progression of the disease. It primarily states syphilis but they injected these black men with all sorts of (and watched them die slowly) and made them think they were receiving free health care from the U.S. government.

Google that

[Proxy]

Atomic Bombs were far from justified. Japan was already defeated after all the fire bombings unless you consider it a necessary evil in terms of taking the country before Stalin made us divide it too.

[DeadlyDynasty]

one more thing Deads...the US has a history of doing like Unit 731..they're just real good at hiding it...but here's one of the more infamous ones that reached the public light:

The Tuskegee syphilis experiment conducted between 1932 and 1972 - where the US Govnt. injected black men with diseases to study the natural progression of the disease. It primarily states syphilis but they injected these black men with all sorts of (and watched them die slowly) and made them think they were receiving free health care from the U.S. government.

Google that

I'm well aware of the Tuskegee exps... ed up . I'm not a jingoist, and the U.S. has more skeletons in their closet than most--which is why I brought up the Dresden bombing. The A-bomb attacks were by definition acts of terror--but the Japs were fighting down to the last man in almost every pacific battle and a mainland invasion could've killed close to million(s) when all was said and done. Horrible, but unfortunately necessary imho given the cir stances.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Watch White Light/Black Rain, excellent do entary about the bombings.

That was an HBO doc iirc, right? I'll have to check it out

[Koolaid_Man]

I'm well aware of the Tuskegee exps... ed up . I'm not a jingoist, and the U.S. has more skeletons in their closet than most--which is why I brought up the Dresden bombing. The A-bomb attacks were by definition acts of terror--but the Japs were fighting down to the last man in almost every pacific battle and a mainland invasion could've killed close to million(s) when all was said and done. Horrible, but unfortunately necessary imho given the cir stances.

Back then I would feel more comfortable with ground invasion but today I support the drones as long as the cowards hide behind their women and children that's their burden to bear not the US.

[td4mvp2k]

Back then I would feel more comfortable with ground invasion but today I support the drones as long as the cowards hide behind their women and children that's their burden to bear not the US.

dont say that to SA210

I like how everyone keeps ignoring the mass murder done by Obama..5000 innocents but no martial law and 9000 cops to arrest him in D.C lol


Gotta go fellas..I have a life, makin a bacon wrapped turkey dinner for my mom's birthday..Yum!

Stay brainwashed my friends lol

[Koolaid_Man]

dont say that to SA210

SA210 scared of me....he start talking and he knows Imma hit him with this:




Imma go video game mode on his ass

[Wild Cobra]

Is this what they teach you kids these days? smh

See why I call them schools of indoctrination?

[Wild Cobra]

Atomic Bombs were far from justified. Japan was already defeated after all the fire bombings unless you consider it a necessary evil in terms of taking the country before Stalin made us divide it too.

How do you figure? They were still attacking. They refused to surrender after the first bomb, so we gave them a second one. Then they surrendered.

[Koolaid_Man]

See why I call them schools of indoctrination?

Barrack "Barry" Is Literally The Greatest President In American History...no American president has been as loved at home and abroad to the scale this man has....He's made a difference and his name will live on through-out eternity..it's such an honored position to be in...