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    No moron, it means that its proof that the Joint Chiefs of Staff signed it, our government would have done it had not JFK rejected it, and its proof that our government would do those things, its proof to how freakin elaborate their plans can actually be. If their plan can be that elaborate in the early 60's what the heck do u think they can be in 2001, or 2013?

    When ppl like you ask about how can it be that they would have actors lying, fake do ents, photos , etc..Yes it's credible to point to Operation Northwoods and other ACTUAL Conspiracy facts as proof that our government does like this. You are ignorant to think that ANY President since JFK has stopped plans like this.

    Go on, continue to not quit me. lol
    What are your other ACTUAL (emphasis yours) conspiracy facts?

    List them.

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    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    SA, I would argue that just because they came up with the plan doesn't mean they could pull it off. After all, the more people involved, the harder it would be to cover up.

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    Interesting stuff SA. Nice to see that Kennedy wasn't an idiot, and not only rejected the plan, but removed Lemnister as CJCS. It probably would have been impossible to pull that off anyways.
    Why would it be impossible to pull off? They had it planned out pretty damn well and were pretty damn determined. Yes, thank God JFK had the balls to reject it, we know what happened to him though. If they can plan something that elaborate, how can they not kill him, one guy? lol

    With today's technology now as well...after JFK died, nobody has been there to stop that rogue group of people. Come on, it makes sense.

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    SA, I would argue that just because they came up with the plan doesn't mean they could pull it off. After all, the more people involved, the harder it would be to cover up.
    Right, this is where the conspiracy nontheorists give up.

    You'll never hear anything resembling a theory from the likes of SA210, even though he has every opportunity to post it.

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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    So what did I score Chump? Am I sane? Or do I need help like SA here?
    Not my test tbh.

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    No. That was a question.

    Do you not know what a lie is? Because if you do it should be very easy for you to name the lies I told that inspired you to call me a liar.

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    Why would it be impossible to pull off? They had it planned out pretty damn well and were pretty damn determined. Yes, thank God JFK had the balls to reject it, we know what happened to him though. If they can plan something that elaborate, how can they not kill him, one guy? lol

    With today's technology now as well...after JFK died, nobody has been there to stop that rogue group of people. Come on, it makes sense.
    Yes, the US has invaded Cuba nine times since JFK died because no president could refuse the Operation Northwoods plan.

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    Did the Tsarnaevs actually go to the marathon that day?

    If yes:
    - How did the FBI/BPD/Obama/whoever know that the Tsarnaevs would be there?
    - What if the Tsarnaevs changed their minds and decided not to go? What would the FBI have done had the brothers simply decided not to go to the marathon? Why did they hedge their entire plan on two people doing exactly what they wanted them to do without any knowledge of their plans? Is the government omniscient?

    If no:
    - Who are the people in the photos? Doppelgängers? People who were picked because they looked exactly like the Tsaenarvs? Did the government use Mission Impossible-style face masks that looked exactly like the Tsarnevs?

    I have a lot more questions, SA210, so just answer these to the best of your abilities, so we can move on.
    , I'll just ask SA210 more questions.

    If you believe the Tsarnaevs were there:

    What about the backpacks? Did the Tsarnaevs bring backpacks that looked like the ones in the pictures with them?

    - Did the government somehow know that the Tsarnaevs would be wearing backpacks that looked exactly like the one in the picture that was released? Or did the government photoshop the backpacks onto the Tsarnaevs? What if the Tsarnaevs didn't bring backpacks and some random person unknowingly took pictures of them before the explosions and before they got anywhere near the blast zones? What would the government do then?

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    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    Why would it be impossible to pull off? They had it planned out pretty damn well and were pretty damn determined. Yes, thank God JFK had the balls to reject it, we know what happened to him though. If they can plan something that elaborate, how can they not kill him, one guy? lol

    With today's technology now as well...after JFK died, nobody has been there to stop that rogue group of people. Come on, it makes sense.
    Its not about technology, its about human nature. Look at the idea to hijack a plane full of civilians, then take it off the radar and blow up another plane. In that case you have to deal with the passengers (kill them and hide/burn the bodies, without any of them being able to do anything about it), deal with the wreckage, AND make sure that everyone who knew about the plan stayed silent.

    In fact, technology makes conspiracies harder. Everyone has a cell phone, with instant access to the Internet and camera/video. All it takes is one person standing in the wrong section and it can get tweeted across the world.

    That's also assuming that everything goes according to plan with no hiccups.

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    What are your other ACTUAL (emphasis yours) conspiracy facts?

    List them.
    Why, you are just a troll. LnGrrrG has maybe said a few things towards me, but at least he was open to reading up on the Operation Northwoods FACT. You are just a troll, however, angry, disgruntled and hurt over your dispute with me going on forever now.

    I'm not interested in playing games with your types. Go find someone else that would agree to be your toy. Not even trying to insult you, but it just doesn't matter what I say, you are always going to be out to be against anything I say, its what you do. You are full of hate and you seriously do live online and for some reason get off on ankle biting and fighting on the internet all day and night about things that do not matter. I come online, but I don't have time for crap like that 24/7 the way you are dedicated to it, I have a family I support, and other hobbies, etc. Seriously, move on from me. I only embarrassed you those times because of how you are. You really should get over it. I know you wont admit it, but its best just to move on. Just sayin, tbh.

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    , I'll just ask SA210 more questions.

    If you believe the Tsarnaevs were there:

    What about the backpacks? Did the Tsarnaevs bring backpacks that looked like the ones in the pictures with them?

    - Did the government somehow know that the Tsarnaevs would be wearing backpacks that looked exactly like the one in the picture that was released? Or did the government photoshop the backpacks onto the Tsarnaevs? What if the Tsarnaevs didn't bring backpacks and some random person unknowingly took pictures of them before the explosions and before they got anywhere near the blast zones? What would the government do then?
    No CT here, but this could easily be answered by picking up random individuals seen on CCTV and decide what would be the most believeble story and easiest to digest.

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    Why, you are just a troll. LnGrrrG has maybe said a few things towards me, but at least he was open to reading up on the Operation Northwoods FACT. You are just a troll, however, angry, disgruntled and hurt over your dispute with me going on forever now.
    I already knew about Northwodds. I want to know what you think really happened in the 9/11 attacks. That's all I ever asked. All you had to say was "I don't know."

    I'm not interested in playing games with your types. Go find someone else that would agree to be your toy. Not even trying to insult you, but it just doesn't matter what I say, you are always going to be out to be against anything I say, its what you do. You are full of hate and you seriously do live online and for some reason get off on ankle biting and fighting on the internet all day and night about things that do not matter. I come online, but I don't have time for crap like that 24/7 the way you are dedicated to it, I have a family I support, and other hobbies, etc. Seriously, move on from me. I only embarrassed you those times because of how you are. You really should get over it. I know you wont admit it, but its best just to move on. Just sayin, tbh.
    lol meltdown

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    No. That was a question.

    Do you not know what a lie is? Because if you do it should be very easy for you to name the lies I told that inspired you to call me a liar.
    You and chump are very similar, tbh. Bunch of hurt and ankle biting. You lied many times, you lied when you said u werent defending him in the politics forum for starters, and you lie when you say you arent pretentious and try to impress people. No need to answer back, you are also a troll.

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    This is about the time where SA210 drops a couple more ad hominems and leaves.

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    Yes, the US has invaded Cuba nine times since JFK died because no president could refuse the Operation Northwoods plan.
    See there you go lying again. I said plans like it. It's funny that you would thinks plans like that ended, tbh

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    See there you go lying again. I said plans like it. It's funny that you would thinks plans like that ended, tbh
    Well, they dropped the Cuba plan and never revived it though "no one could stop it" a year after JFK rejected it.

    OK, show us how 9/11 was a plan like Operation Northwoods.

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    I already knew about Northwodds. I want to know what you think really happened in the 9/11 attacks. That's all I ever asked. All you had to say was "I don't know."

    lol meltdown
    No, not at all actually. You are proving my point. I was just talking to you, tbh. You couldn't accept that. You felt like you had something to lose if you actually said something meaningful about what I said.

    Instead you had to resort to what i said you do, which is lie and continue a game ("lol meltdown") A troll doing what he does. I feel bad for you in a way, tbqh.

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    No, not at all actually. You are proving my point. I was just talking to you, tbh. You couldn't accept that. You felt like you had something to lose if you actually said something meaningful about what I said.

    Instead you had to resort to what i said you do, which is lie and continue a game ("lol meltdown") A troll doing what he does. I feel bad for you in a way, tbqh.
    So all the name calling and smack you posted doesn't count now?

    Are you ready to discuss what you really think happened on 9/11?

    A simple yes or no (since you're "just talking" to me now) will do.

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    This is about the time where SA210 drops a couple more ad hominems and leaves.
    How long do you want me online with you?

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    You and chump are very similar, tbh. Bunch of hurt and ankle biting. You lied many times, you lied when you said u werent defending him in the politics forum for starters, and you lie when you say you arent pretentious and try to impress people. No need to answer back, you are also a troll.
    So you think I'm lying any time I say something with which you don't agree?

    Suddenly the conspiracy thing makes sense.

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    How long do you want me online with you?
    It's not up to me. Do you want to discuss what you think really happened in Boston or on 9/11?

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    So all the name calling and smack you posted doesn't count now?

    Are you ready to discuss what you really think happened on 9/11?

    A simple yes or no (since you're "just talking" to me now) will do.
    Tbh, YOU were the one who started all the attacks, on my daughter for instance, the gay smack, etc since going way back. You just didn't like when someone who did it back to you. Then you making fun of dead babies and drones, stuff that a moral person would not do, btw. But whatever, what I was saying is I was talking to you in that post about you having a serious obsession and internet problem that people like me cannot commit to. My point was that speaking on these serious issues with a troll is meaningless. You will always be hurt and angry at me. You wont let yourself agree with me, even if you actually do. I know you want a playmate, but you already have many on here that you chase around, that should be enough. Get over me..seriously. Like I said, I only embarrassed you about your addiction because of how you are. I have no interest in discussing serious topics with a known troll that you will always just try to troll anyway. Thanks though

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    How long before SA210 resorts to image macros and rants about ChumpDumper being so mean to him?

    I expect a million more smilies, but not a single explanation on what happened on April 15th.

    Edit: Right when I posted this, SA210 posted a rant about ChumpDumper being mad to him and ended it with a smilie. If only he decided to use one of his paragraphs to talk about the topic at hand. But nope, he'd rather cry about ChumpDumper.

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    So you think I'm lying any time I say something with which you don't agree?

    Suddenly the conspiracy thing makes sense.
    No, I just think you are hurt over my opinions/views many times, and that you also live a lie, constantly.

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    It's not up to me. Do you want to discuss what you think really happened in Boston or on 9/11?
    That's my point, you aren't interested in discussing it. You are a troll, and you just want to attempt to e-win an arguement and riducule over an obsession and grudge you have against me. It's not a discussion you are interested in, tbh. That will never change, you are a troll, and you troll the forums day and night. So, no thanks.

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