Strange how the FBI dropped the ball when alerted by the Russians about the older brother being a threat as well. Significant failure on the part of U.S intelligence & security.
Also what appeared to be a bit of fear mongering on part of the Government; with excessive number of Law enforcement, armored vehicles & even a report of a tank; all for one injured 19 year old kid.
If you provide a link to these details, I would appreciate it. Everything I've read says he fled on foot shortly after driving from the firefight.
He hid in a boat outside the search perimeter. It's fine if that seems so su ious to you -- but again I have to ask what it would suggest to you outside the course of events of a manhunt.The obvious; how did a wounded kid avoid a large number of law enforcement officers (state,local & federal) for hours? I've yet to see a convincing answer.
What specific evidence did they have on him then?
Dude killed four people and injured hundreds with bombs and guns and no one even knew if he was injured. I don't know why you think this somehow wasn't a big deal.Also what appeared to be a bit of fear mongering on part of the Government; with excessive number of Law enforcement, armored vehicles & even a report of a tank; all for one injured 19 year old kid.
You seem to be arguing law enforcement did too much and not enough at the same time -- pretty contradictory on the whole.
Chump go through this guys tweets:
https://twitter.com/AureliusR
(specifically those from the 19th.
He was one of the top contributors of the events going on as he caught most of what was coming out of the Boston police scanner. He apparently got requested to be interviewed by BBC as well.
For how long? This chase was on for hours (how many don't know....it had been going on since early morning till early night tho), please don't tell me you believe he had been in the boat for that long a time?He hid in a boat outside the search perimeter. It's fine if that seems so su ious to you --
"The FBI said Russia had asked for the investigation "based on information that he was a follower of radical Islam and a strong believer, and that he had changed drastically since 2010 as he prepared to leave the United States for travel to the country's region to join unspecified underground groups."
http://gawker.com/5995152/russia-war...before-bombing
Strange for the U.S govt the biggest fighter of radical Islam to let a radical Islamist go under the radar, especially on the homeland!
Hmm, I don't know what gave you the idea that I didn't think this was a big deal; I'm just saying all those armored vehicles as well as reports of 9 thousand police & a complete lockdown of the city of Boston all for a wounded kid is a bit excessive & instills a greater fear then is needed.Dude killed four people and injured hundreds with bombs and guns and no one even knew if he was injured. I don't know why you think this somehow wasn't a big deal.
ABC reported that Suspect number 2 was likely wounded that day & Cops IIRC thought he was likely wounded as a result of the firefight he & his brother had with them.
Law enforcement brought a whole lotta man power as well as firepower only struggling to find the wounded suspect & got bailed out by some old man checking his boat, they brought this su ion upon themselves.You seem to be arguing law enforcement did too much and not enough at the same time -- pretty contradictory on the whole.
So there was nothing that came of the guy on a bike who was riding away from the Watertown side of the river and nothing clear about the suspect's using more cars after the gunfight.
Tell me why I shouldn't believe he was in the boat for several hours?For how long? This chase was on for hours (how many don't know....it had been going on since early morning till early night tho), please don't tell me you believe he had been in the boat for that long a time?
The Russian government which is fighting a constant radical Islamic insurrection let Tamerlan come to and go from their homeland as he pleased after they made the request to the US. Guess they weren't that concerned after all.
They didn't know. They did know this dude killed people with bombs and guns and used multiple bombs the last time they confronted him. It's silly to try to downplay the danger this guy presented.Hmm, I don't know what gave you the idea that I didn't think this was a big deal; I'm just saying all those armored vehicles as well as reports of 9 thousand police & a complete lockdown of the city of Boston all for a wounded kid is a bit excessive & instills a greater fear then is needed.
ABC reported that Suspect number 2 was likely wounded that day & Cops IIRC thought he was likely wounded as a result of the firefight he & his brother had with them.
Su ion of what? What are you driving at here?Law enforcement brought a whole lotta man power as well as firepower only struggling to find the wounded suspect & got bailed out by some old man checking his boat, they brought this su ion upon themselves.
My bad; my mistake it was worse, the guy saw a police cruiser & on foot while wounded evaded a large amount of police through the woods.
And their was a CRV & a Mercedes tied to him as well as that SUV he supposedly escaped with. Strange isn't it?
Tell me how he evaded that many cops (wounded albeit) for that long to go specifically to that boat? You seem to be ducking that question & of most of my other points as well.Tell me why I shouldn't believe he was in the boat for several hours?
So you're excusing the FBI for dropping the ball? Just as you have seemingly excused law enforcement at every level for failing to find a wounded 19 year old kid, only to get bailed out by some old man checking his boat.The Russian government which is fighting a constant radical Islamic insurrection let Tamerlan come to and go from their homeland as he pleased after they made the request to the US. Guess they weren't that concerned after all.
He was a wounded kid! And based off the evidence so far it seems as if it was his brother who may have had training, the kid did not. It's silly to not obviously see that law enforcement at the command of the Govt wasn't doing a bit of fear mongering!They didn't know. They did know this dude killed people with bombs and guns and used multiple bombs the last time they confronted him. It's silly to try to downplay the danger this guy presented.
A police state. Searching people's homes without a warrant says enough & despite that they still missed some wounded kid in a boat! Quit being so damn naive & an apologist!Su ion of what? What are you driving at here?
The Mercedes was the SUV he escaped in. The other car was theirs. It isn't strange at all.
The boat wasn't very far from the area of the shootout. It didn't take long for him to get there. Your points are being addressed one by one. It appears you are fairly misinformed.Tell me how he evaded that many cops (wounded albeit) for that long to go specifically to that boat? You seem to be ducking that question & of most of my other points as well.
If there was actual evidence to deport him or arrest him, then one could say they dropped the ball. You appear to be calling for people to be arrested preemptively like so much Minority Report. There are many reasons that won't work.So you're excusing the FBI for dropping the ball?
They did a great job establishing that perimeter, since it trapped him there. I don't know what their specific search plan was, but I do understand this house was not in the area they had searched extensively. I guess their problem was they didn't shut down Watertown longer.Just as you have seemingly excused law enforcement at every level for failing to find a wounded 19 year old kid, only to get bailed out by some old man checking his boat.
Based off the evidence so far it seems as if he was part of a group that killed several people and wounded over a hundred with guns and bombs. It's sill to not obviously see that some caution was called for.He was a wounded kid! And based off the evidence so far it seems as if it was his brother who may have had training, the kid did not. It's silly to not obviously see that law enforcement at the command of the Govt wasn't doing a bit of fear mongering!
Seriously?A police state. Searching people's homes without a warrant says enough & despite that they still missed some wounded kid in a boat! Quit being so damn naive & an apologist!
Was there a homeowner who didn't consent to a search for a person accused of killing and maiming that many people? You'll have to give me a link to that.
So it isn't strange that he gets away in the SUV & then supposedly later on switches cars all while being pursued by heavy law enforcement? What world do you live in?
You've yet to offer a plausible explanation on how he avoided a massive amount of police while injured to simply go hide in a boat, you're not addressing my points. You lack reasoning as you already have this preconceived notion that you're right, but any one who is open minded & thinks about the whole situation would find it weird that a wounded boy evaded thousands of police & caused the city of Boston to shut down is su ious. Learn how to reason, instead of being so absolute in your thinking.The boat wasn't very far from the area of the shootout. It didn't take long for him to get there. Your points are being addressed one by one. It appears you are fairly misinformed.
You don't have to arrest him, why not use surveillance on him? The Canadians did so to 'potential' suspects & due to their surveillance they were able to thwart a terror plot today. Why couldn't the FBI do the same?If there was actual evidence to deport him or arrest him, then one could say they dropped the ball. You appear to be calling for people to be arrested preemptively like so much Minority Report. There are many reasons that won't work.
If they did a great job, the city wouldn't have been shut down nor would they have got bailed out by an old man.They did a great job establishing that perimeter, since it trapped him there. I don't know what their specific search plan was, but I do understand this house was not in the area they had searched extensively. I guess their problem was they didn't shut down Watertown longer.
No doubt, but all these armored vehicles & squadrons of soldiers is a bit excessive & instills a fear in the public. Whoever can't see this is fooling themselves.Based off the evidence so far it seems as if he was part of a group that killed several people and wounded over a hundred with guns and bombs. It's sill to not obviously see that some caution was called for.
Seriously?
That's not stated, nor implied, but is this cons utional?:Was there a homeowner who didn't consent to a search for a person accused of killing and maiming that many people? You'll have to give me a link to that.
They looked through garages & all this without search warrants why not the backyards with sheds or boats?
It is extremely su ious.
There is no report that he switched cars after leaving that SUV. The location of the capture supports that. Again, you simply aren't terribly well informed.
I am; you are hand waving right now.You've yet to offer a plausible explanation on how he avoided a massive amount of police while injured to simply go hide in a boat, you're not addressing my points.On the contrary, it is you who refuse to accept you have simple facts about this situation wrong. Learn how to know what you are talking about before hitting that post button.You lack reasoning as you already have this preconceived notion that you're right, but any one who is open minded & thinks about the whole situation would find it weird that a wounded boy evaded thousands of police & caused the city of Boston to shut down is su ious. Learn how to reason, instead of being so absolute in your thinking.
So you are demanding that a person who has done nothing wrong and against whom there is no evidence of wrongdoing be tracked for two years when Russia didn't even bother to do the same?You don't have to arrest him, why not use surveillance on him? The Canadians did so to 'potential' suspects & due to their surveillance they were able to thwart a terror plot today. Why couldn't the FBI do the same?
I said they did a great job of setting the perimeter.If they did a great job, the city wouldn't have been shut down nor would they have got bailed out by an old man.
This guy killed people with bombs and guns in the streets of Boston. The fear was already instilled by him and his brother.No doubt, but all these armored vehicles & squadrons of soldiers is a bit excessive & instills a fear in the public. Whoever can't see this is fooling themselves.
The short answer is yes. I'm going to assume you will dismiss any legal explanation out of hand, so I won't waste the keystrokes on them.That's not stated, nor implied, but is this cons utional?:
They didn't search the house where the boat was. They didn't search every house in the perimeter they set up.They looked through garages & all this without search warrants why not the backyards with sheds or boats?
You keep saying that, but this "police state" business falls flat when you realize they ended the curfew even before they caught the guy.It is extremely su ious.
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