Lakers: Kobe the leader: How he performed in elimination games since 2005.

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only pussies and assholes

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

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It is relevant. How many Laker fans have been saying "We would win this series with Kobe"? If nothing else, this thread is directed at that group.

Only pussies & assholes play the injury card.

[Koolaid_Man]

Just thought it worth mentioning that Timmy's had his tongue ring and tramp stamp almost 14 yrs now.
That's a lot of work.

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Actually, if you look at the original post, we were beginning with the 2004-05 season. Duncan won the championship that year. Therefore, the count since 2005 is 2 apiece.

Or, boiled down:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old bag Duncan: 4

[spurraider21]

only pussies and assholes resort to parrot tactics

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

case in point

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least with Lebron we have someone who lives up to the hype. and is actually relevant right now

CHARGE!!!

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Jamstone is right. Your timing is just wrong. 16 teams are competing in the playoffs and you create this thread over someone who's not relevant. Its just someone dying for attention. I mean if that's your thing, cool. I personally thought it was weak.

S&H sockin' it to amb.

LMAO!!!

[Arcadian]

Only pussies & assholes play the injury card.

I agree. So how many cards are you left with, exactly? Is it time the play the "Spurs are better than the Lakers" card yet?

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I agree. So how many cards are you left with, exactly? Is it time the play the "Spurs are better than the Lakers" card yet?

I did that months ago.

[LkrFan]

Actually, if you look at the original post, we were beginning with the 2004-05 season. Duncan won the championship that year. Therefore, the count since 2005 is 2 apiece.

"Since 2005" = 2005-2006 season, classhole.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Nice job exposing yourself as not having a clue as to what you're talking about.

06 vs Suns and 09 vs Rockets were blowouts.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Take a look at some of these road games between Kobe and Pau the "leader"

2010 WCF

Game 3

Kobe: 36-9-11 on 13-24/2-8/8-8
Pau: 23-9-2 on 11-14/0-0/1-2

Game 4

Kobe: 38-7-10 on 15-22/6-9/2-4
Pau: 15-5-3 on 6-14/0-0/3-5

Game 6

Kobe: 37-6-2 on 12-25/3-8/10-11
Pau: 9-7-2 on 2-9/0-0/5-6

[Deuce Bigalow]

2010 Finals

Game 3

Kobe: 29-7-4 on 10-29/1-7/8-8
Pau: 13-10-4 on 5-11/0-0/3-6

Game 4

Kobe: 33-6-2 on 10-22/6-11/7-8
Pau: 21-6-3 on 6-13/0-0/9-10

Game 5

Kobe: 38-5-4 on 13-27/4-10/8-9
Pau: 12-12-0 on 5-12/0-0/2-3

What a leader MVPau is

[Kulo]

Take a look at some of these road games between Kobe and Pau the "leader"

2010 WCF

Game 3

Kobe: 36-9-11 on 13-24/2-8/8-8
Pau: 23-9-2 on 11-14/0-0/1-2

Game 4

Kobe: 38-7-10 on 15-22/6-9/2-4
Pau: 15-5-3 on 6-14/0-0/3-5

Game 6

Kobe: 37-6-2 on 12-25/3-8/10-11
Pau: 9-7-2 on 2-9/0-0/5-6

Look no further than the next series against us to find the truth, tbh no one said Pau was a "leader" just that Kobe is a one.

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Look no further than the next series against us to find the truth, tbh no one said Pau was a "leader" just that Kobe is a one.

Yeah, that's one the where Pierce lied and then compounded his lie by letting Artest take his pants down & off AFTER The Shovel.

You all wanted him to jack that POS up, miss it and then live to tell. Uh, uh.

[Kulo]

Yeah, that's one the where Pierce lied and then compounded his lie by letting Artest take his pants down & off AFTER The Shovel.

You all wanted him to jack that POS up, miss it and then live to tell. Uh, uh.

Because Pierce is completely relevant to Pau Gasol and Kobe's "leadership" .

[Killakobe81]

So there has been much talk about Kobe being the leader, and as a leader, you are expected to lead by example, and according to Kobe fans, will your team to wins under difficult situations.

What is more difficult than an elimination game in the playoffs? So let’s look at how Kobe shot in elimination games since 2005.
2005:
No games, didn’t make playoffs.

2006:
Game 7 vs. PHO. 8 for 16 FG, including 4 for 8 on 3s and 4 for 5 on FTs for 24 points. People may not know, but this is only one of the two games Kobe shot 50% or more from the field in elimination games since the departure of Shaq. Looks like a great line, only that Kobe refused to shoot after half time for reasons only he would know. Lakers lost, BIG.

2007:
Game 5 vs. PHO. 13 for 33 FG, 2 for 8 3P, 6 for 7 FT for 34 points. Hey, people may have forgotten, but before Pau was the complimentary player, Lamar Odom was the official whipping boy of Laker fans. The Lakers ALWAYS lose because of Lamar, but then again, in this game, Lamar actually shot 13 for 21 on FGA for 33 points. He may have been able to help some more if he saw the ball a little more, but hey, it’s an elimination game, and we KNOW Kobe has to shoot at least a third of the FG, so there you go. Lakers lost.
2008:
Game 6 vs. BOS. 7 for 22 FGA, including 3 for 9 on 3s and 5 for 5 on FTs for 22 points. His complimentary players didn’t step up in this game. In fact, they didn’t even see the ball much as nobody else shot the ball more than 8 times with Kobe getting more than 1/3 of all FGAs. Lakers lost.

2009:
Game 7 vs. HOU. 4 for 12 FGA, including 1-4 on 3s and 5-6 on FTs for 14 points. Whew, are we glad that “complimentary player” Pau Gasol got 10 for 19 for 21 points with 18 rebounds. What a complimentary player! Outdoing the leader yet again. Lakers win.

2010:
Game 7 vs. BOS. Doesn’t’ get any clutcher than this. 6 for 24 from the field, 0 for 6 from 3, and 11 for 15 from the FT line. Wow, really? 15 FTA for a perimeter player? Oh, right, 37 FTA for the lakers in total compared to 17 for the Celtics when the two teams were relatively even for the previous 6 games. Top it off, a huge amount of those 37 FTA came in the 4th quarter. Funny as . Anyways, back to topic. 23 high inefficient points. Luckily, complimentary player Pau Gasol shot 6 for 15, for 19 points to go along with 18 rebounds, and MWP shot 7 for 18. Lakers win.

2011:
Game 4 vs. Mavs: 7 for 18, 0 for5 on 3s and 3 for 4 from FT line, for 17 points. Everybody sucked on the Lakers that day, and they were promptly eliminated, swept in fact, by the eventual champions.

2012:
Game 7 vs. Nuggets, 7 for 16 FGA, and 1 for 4 on FTs for 17 points. Smashing! In the same game “complimentary player Pau Gasol shot 9 for 19 for 23 points, and added another 17 rebounds. Lakers win

Game 5 vs. OKC. 18 for 33 FGA, including 1 for 6 on 3s and 5-7 on FTAs for an amazing 42 points. Can’t blame him on this game. Too bad, all of that effort couldn’t get the Lakers past the 2nd round, as the rest of the team only shot 42 FG in total.

2013:
No elimination games, Kobe injured.

So there you have it folks. Great leader, leading by example in the toughest of the tough games. Kudos.

Just last week it was a Team sport ...(yawn)
Oh is that only when it suits your argument?
How about some of the leaders (YOUR STORY) ... Pau's numbers in those same elimination games ....why don't you

Called this thread the momemt Mercos posted ...

Amb: "But, but I dont hate Achilles ... Im just exposing the truth" ... GTFO Chris Hansen, go catch a predator ...

The Booty Warrior is out there somewhere ... and he got a stiffy with your name on it ...

[Latarian Milton]

stats speak the loudest but sometimes they can be misleading too. kobe's ego has definitely cost the lakers some crucial games but the majority of time he's a decent leader of this team imho. when kobe shoots bad but still takes massive shots, it basically means the rest of team shoot even worse, so it might probably be the best choice to make in that case imho.

[Killakobe81]

I don't care about just another fan tbh.

Mugen for this year I agree with you how is he even relevant right now?

[j-money24]

OP forgot to mention that Kobe grabbed 15 rebounds against the Celtics in game 7... Delusional Spurs fan like always

[Deuce Bigalow]

OP forgot to mention that Kobe grabbed 15 rebounds against the Celtics in game 7... Delusional Spurs fan like always

And he put Gasol's rebounds LMAO

[irishock]

The suicide drive
The 15 rebounds
Going up 5-4 on June 17th

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The suicide drive
The 15 rebounds
Going up 5-4 on June 17th

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Yes. It got within view and Bryant grabbed for it, near maniacally, hence the suicide drives. It wasn't what Media wanted. That's why they've never honored the pass to Artest. They wanted him to launch that, miss it and for Boston to win off that miscalculation. They wanted Vuj to march to that ft line and choke. There was no story at victory. Like I've said a dozen times:::Media gets two bites at the apple if Boston wins. They get to laud Boston and beat us half to death. Media gets no bites at the apple if the Lakers win. They won't laud us, and they won't touch Boston with a ten foot pole. Media wanted that for Boston, that would have resurrected the old days and Media would have exploited that to a pitch that I can't even imagine. Bryant knew that without being told, even though I'll gurantee Magic warmed him repeatedly and at length. Fish knew it too. That's why he cold ed Kobe early in the 2nd quarter and got him straightened out. "I can stop it, and stop them, Kobe, but, I can't take us to it. That's you. You'll have to take us. Get on with it." Bryant's instincts took over then. What's the first thing you learn when you're playing HS school ball? "Stay away from that janitor named Dale." No, not that. When in doubt go to the paint. That's what Kobe did. He played defense and he went to the paint for rebounds and then in the fourth quarter for the 2 drives.

Good memories. I love rolling it over in my mind again, and again, and again.

[jimbo]

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[ambchang]

Take a look at some of these road games between Kobe and Pau the "leader"

2010 WCF

Game 3

Kobe: 36-9-11 on 13-24/2-8/8-8
Pau: 23-9-2 on 11-14/0-0/1-2

Game 4

Kobe: 38-7-10 on 15-22/6-9/2-4
Pau: 15-5-3 on 6-14/0-0/3-5

Game 6

Kobe: 37-6-2 on 12-25/3-8/10-11
Pau: 9-7-2 on 2-9/0-0/5-6

2010 Finals

Game 3

Kobe: 29-7-4 on 10-29/1-7/8-8
Pau: 13-10-4 on 5-11/0-0/3-6

Game 4

Kobe: 33-6-2 on 10-22/6-11/7-8
Pau: 21-6-3 on 6-13/0-0/9-10

Game 5

Kobe: 38-5-4 on 13-27/4-10/8-9
Pau: 12-12-0 on 5-12/0-0/2-3

What a leader MVPau is

Were those elimination games? Why do you want to bring in irrelevant topics to this thread? If you want to talk about how Kobe performed where there is less pressure, you can start a new thread.

I have an idea for the thread le "How Kobe performed when MVPau isn't needed in non-elimination games".