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    Lets take a look at elimination games in the 05 and 07 playoffs - the years the Spurs won rings. By elimination, this means the last game of the series in which a team got eliminated.

    2007 NBA Finals - Game 4

    Duncan: 12-14-3 on 4-15 FG, 4-10 FT
    FMVParker: 24-7-1 on 10-14 FG, 2-5 FT
    Ginobili: 27-5-3 on 8-19 FG, 8-11 FT

    2007 NBA WCF - Game 5

    Duncan: 21-7-3 on 7-14 FG
    Parker: 21-5-5 on 7-13 FG

    2007 NBA WCSF - Game 6

    Duncan: 24-13-1 9blk on 11-19 FG
    Ginobili: 33-11-6 4stl on 11-17 FG
    Parker: 30-2-6 on 11-27 FG

    2007 NBA 1stRd - Game 5
    Duncan: 23-12-5 on 10-19 FG
    Finley: 26-4-1 on 9-14 FG, 8-9 3PT

    Duncan was carried offensively. He was never the leading scorer in any of the elimination games during the 2007 playoffs. This is supposed to be one of his "the man" rings that Spurfan uses to put over Kobe, with him averaging 22-12-3 for the 07 playoffs - basically a Pau Gasol type line with an extra shot or two. But when Kobe averages 29-7-6 and 27-6-5 in the 01 and 02 playoffs, that is not as good as Duncan's 07 ring because he wasn't the man? Stupidity, but that discussion is for another thread. Duncan did not carry the team but I don't blame him, it's a tough thing to do. Parker and Manu had their moments in th elimination games. Duncan just sat back in the Finals in 07 and shot bricks but luckily Parker had it going not just in the elimination game, but all series long.

    2005 NBA Finals - Game 7

    Duncan: 25-11-3 on 10-27 FG
    Ginobili: 23-5-4 on 8-13 FG


    2005 NBA WCF - Game 5
    Duncan: 31-15-4 on 14-24 FG
    Ginobili: 19-8-6 on 6-15 FG

    2005 NBA WCSF - Game 6
    Duncan: 26-9-5 on 6-21 FG, 14-17 FT (Not going to cry about FTA like the other got did)
    Parker: 14-2-3 on 6-13 FG
    Ginobili: 13-6-7 on 3-6 FG

    2005 NBA 1stRd - Game 5
    Duncan: 18-11-5 on 8-15 FG
    Parker: 21-3-7 on 9-17 FG
    Ginobili: 18-9-4 on 4-9 FG

    Finally! He had one game where he was clearly the best in an elimination game during the 2005 Playoffs. Funny how in Game 7 in the Finals he shot 10-27 and grabbed 4 less rebounds than Kobe did in his game 7. How can a post player shoot 10-27? 6-21 FG in another one, 6-21? Duncan did not fully carry his team inthr elimination game for this year, except once. Ginobili and Parker remained efficient while Duncan was building a brickhouse at times. 24-12-3 playoff average. Great numbers, but not all-time great for sure. Keep in mind he shot 46 FG% as a Center/Power Forward. Weak "the man" ring I say.
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    Spur fans can't handle that tramp stamp lived in the shadow of kobe. Well done deuce

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    I ain't ing up my eyes reading that bull wall of text

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    I ain't ing up my eyes reading that bull wall of text
    Here's the short version:::

    Kobe: 5

    the tired old tramp stamp Duncan: 4

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    I ain't ing up my eyes reading that bull wall of text

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    Here's the short version:::

    Kobe: 5

    the tired old tramp stamp Duncan: 4
    take that team accomplishment I got the alpha male trophies

    Duncan: 3

    shaq: 3

    kirby: 2

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    didnt read

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    Stop deflecting

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    Even if Duncan wasn't the best offensively in some games, he was the best(by far) defensively. And look at the FGA, never much more than his teammates, great leaders play like that.

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    Fixed. The preview didn't show up like that so I don't know wtf happened.

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    take that team accomplishment I got the alpha male trophies

    Duncan: 3

    shaq: 3

    kirby: 2
    There is no such thing.

    Hey look I'm cool award

    Me - 1

    You - 0

    ....

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    OP doesn't understand the meaning of "elimination game", tbh.

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    OP doesn't understand the meaning of "elimination game", tbh.
    See the very first sentences. But if you want to go by elimination "do or die" games

    2005 NBA Finals - Game 7

    Duncan: 25-11-3 on 10-27 FG
    Ginobili: 23-5-4 on 8-13 FG

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    2005 NBA WCSF - Game 6
    Duncan: 26-9-5 on 6-21 FG, 14-17 FT (Not going to cry about FTA like the other got did)
    Parker: 14-2-3 on 6-13 FG
    Ginobili: 13-6-7 on 3-6 FG
    Duncan nailed the buzzer beating series winner against us that series. I'll never forget.

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    See the very first sentences. But if you want to go by elimination "do or die" games

    2005 NBA Finals - Game 7

    Duncan: 25-11-3 on 10-27 FG
    Ginobili: 23-5-4 on 8-13 FG
    Elimination games are the ones where your team is going to get eliminated, so yeah. Game 7 in the '05 finals is all you got.

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    Duncan is 23-6 in series with HCA


    To compare that to the alltime greats that are top 10-15 here are there records


    Michael Jordan 24-0 in series with HCA
    Kareem 34-5 in series with HCA
    Russell 22-1 in series with HCA
    Magic 29-3 in series with HCA
    Bird 24-7 in series with HCA
    Wilt 13-5 in series with HCA
    Hakeem 9-2 in series with HCA
    Shaq 24-5 in Series with HCA
    Kobe 27-2 in series with HCA and 25-2 in series where he was a starter.





    HCA(50+)/non-50
    Jordan: 14-0 / 10-0
    Russell: 10-0 / 12-1
    Shaq: 11-2 / 12-2
    Magic: 9-2 / 20-1
    Duncan: 15-5 / 8-1
    Jabbar: 11-3 / 23-2
    Olajuwon: 4-0 / 5-2
    Bird: 10-6 / 14-1
    Wilt: 4-3 / 9-2
    Kobe: 18-2 / 6-0
    Here are the other power forwards all time as well




    vs 50 win teams/non-50 win teams
    Garnett: 3-2 (60%) /6-0 (100%)
    Dirk: 6-2 (75%) /2-1 (67%)
    Malone: 4-4 (50%) /8-2 (80%)
    Barkley: 2-1 (67%) /8-1 (89%)
    KG 9-2
    Dirk 9-3
    Malone 12-6
    Barkley 10-2


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    is this Lkrfan's troll? this guy going up against ambchang is like Rob Schneider trying to outwit Louis CK.

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    OP forgot the fact that when Duncan wasnt scoring in those games, he got other players involved for clutch 3's

    Also made big defensive plays

    He also made his teammates better in big games


    Basically all the things Kobe doesnt do in elimination games

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    el OP no entienda lo que significa el palabra "elimination" imho

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    Lets take a look at elimination games in the 05 and 07 playoffs - the years the Spurs won rings. By elimination, this means the last game of the series in which a team got eliminated.

    2007 NBA Finals - Game 4

    Duncan: 12-14-3 on 4-15 FG, 4-10 FT
    FMVParker: 24-7-1 on 10-14 FG, 2-5 FT
    Ginobili: 27-5-3 on 8-19 FG, 8-11 FT

    2007 NBA WCF - Game 5

    Duncan: 21-7-3 on 7-14 FG
    Parker: 21-5-5 on 7-13 FG

    2007 NBA WCSF - Game 6

    Duncan: 24-13-1 9blk on 11-19 FG
    Ginobili: 33-11-6 4stl on 11-17 FG
    Parker: 30-2-6 on 11-27 FG

    2007 NBA 1stRd - Game 5
    Duncan: 23-12-5 on 10-19 FG
    Finley: 26-4-1 on 9-14 FG, 8-9 3PT

    Duncan was carried offensively. He was never the leading scorer in any of the elimination games during the 2007 playoffs. This is supposed to be one of his "the man" rings that Spurfan uses to put over Kobe, with him averaging 22-12-3 for the 07 playoffs - basically a Pau Gasol type line with an extra shot or two. But when Kobe averages 29-7-6 and 27-6-5 in the 01 and 02 playoffs, that is not as good as Duncan's 07 ring because he wasn't the man? Stupidity, but that discussion is for another thread. Duncan did not carry the team but I don't blame him, it's a tough thing to do. Parker and Manu had their moments in th elimination games. Duncan just sat back in the Finals in 07 and shot bricks but luckily Parker had it going not just in the elimination game, but all series long.

    2005 NBA Finals - Game 7

    Duncan: 25-11-3 on 10-27 FG
    Ginobili: 23-5-4 on 8-13 FG


    2005 NBA WCF - Game 5
    Duncan: 31-15-4 on 14-24 FG
    Ginobili: 19-8-6 on 6-15 FG

    2005 NBA WCSF - Game 6
    Duncan: 26-9-5 on 6-21 FG, 14-17 FT (Not going to cry about FTA like the other got did)
    Parker: 14-2-3 on 6-13 FG
    Ginobili: 13-6-7 on 3-6 FG

    2005 NBA 1stRd - Game 5
    Duncan: 18-11-5 on 8-15 FG
    Parker: 21-3-7 on 9-17 FG
    Ginobili: 18-9-4 on 4-9 FG

    Finally! He had one game where he was clearly the best in an elimination game during the 2005 Playoffs. Funny how in Game 7 in the Finals he shot 10-27 and grabbed 4 less rebounds than Kobe did in his game 7. How can a post player shoot 10-27? 6-21 FG in another one, 6-21? Duncan did not fully carry his team inthr elimination game for this year, except once. Ginobili and Parker remained efficient while Duncan was building a brickhouse at times. 24-12-3 playoff average. Great numbers, but not all-time great for sure. Keep in mind he shot 46 FG% as a Center/Power Forward. Weak "the man" ring I say.
    tl;dr


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    OP forgot the fact that when Duncan wasnt scoring in those games, he got other players involved for clutch 3's

    Also made big defensive plays

    He also made his teammates better in big games


    Basically all the things Kobe doesnt do in elimination games
    Oh yeah I forgot that argument by Spurfan. "He made his teammates better".

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    Hey if this post will make you feel better about the Lakers losing then I say drop that deuce.

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    Lets take a look at elimination games in the 05 and 07 playoffs - the years the Spurs won rings. By elimination, this means the last game of the series in which a team got eliminated.

    2007 NBA Finals - Game 4

    Duncan: 12-14-3 on 4-15 FG, 4-10 FT
    FMVParker: 24-7-1 on 10-14 FG, 2-5 FT
    Ginobili: 27-5-3 on 8-19 FG, 8-11 FT

    2007 NBA WCF - Game 5

    Duncan: 21-7-3 on 7-14 FG
    Parker: 21-5-5 on 7-13 FG

    2007 NBA WCSF - Game 6

    Duncan: 24-13-1 9blk on 11-19 FG
    Ginobili: 33-11-6 4stl on 11-17 FG
    Parker: 30-2-6 on 11-27 FG

    2007 NBA 1stRd - Game 5
    Duncan: 23-12-5 on 10-19 FG
    Finley: 26-4-1 on 9-14 FG, 8-9 3PT

    Duncan was carried offensively. He was never the leading scorer in any of the elimination games during the 2007 playoffs. This is supposed to be one of his "the man" rings that Spurfan uses to put over Kobe, with him averaging 22-12-3 for the 07 playoffs - basically a Pau Gasol type line with an extra shot or two. But when Kobe averages 29-7-6 and 27-6-5 in the 01 and 02 playoffs, that is not as good as Duncan's 07 ring because he wasn't the man? Stupidity, but that discussion is for another thread. Duncan did not carry the team but I don't blame him, it's a tough thing to do. Parker and Manu had their moments in th elimination games. Duncan just sat back in the Finals in 07 and shot bricks but luckily Parker had it going not just in the elimination game, but all series long.

    2005 NBA Finals - Game 7

    Duncan: 25-11-3 on 10-27 FG
    Ginobili: 23-5-4 on 8-13 FG


    2005 NBA WCF - Game 5
    Duncan: 31-15-4 on 14-24 FG
    Ginobili: 19-8-6 on 6-15 FG

    2005 NBA WCSF - Game 6
    Duncan: 26-9-5 on 6-21 FG, 14-17 FT (Not going to cry about FTA like the other got did)
    Parker: 14-2-3 on 6-13 FG
    Ginobili: 13-6-7 on 3-6 FG

    2005 NBA 1stRd - Game 5
    Duncan: 18-11-5 on 8-15 FG
    Parker: 21-3-7 on 9-17 FG
    Ginobili: 18-9-4 on 4-9 FG

    Finally! He had one game where he was clearly the best in an elimination game during the 2005 Playoffs. Funny how in Game 7 in the Finals he shot 10-27 and grabbed 4 less rebounds than Kobe did in his game 7. How can a post player shoot 10-27? 6-21 FG in another one, 6-21? Duncan did not fully carry his team inthr elimination game for this year, except once. Ginobili and Parker remained efficient while Duncan was building a brickhouse at times. 24-12-3 playoff average. Great numbers, but not all-time great for sure. Keep in mind he shot 46 FG% as a Center/Power Forward. Weak "the man" ring I say.
    I actually read this, hoping that it wasn't a troll attempt/reaching response to the Kobe thread, but alas...

    One thing you don't understand is that defenses were so keyed in on Duncan that Manu and Tony were allowed to go buck wild in the paint/get open shots. If you look at how Manu scored in the 4th quarter of game 7, you'll note that he clearly benefited from Timmy's presence (something that simple stats won't show).

    Also, in 2005 Duncan was playing on two bad ankles during the WCF/Finals and one bad ankle in the first two rounds. In the WCF it didn't matter since Phx played absolutely no defense, but in the Finals Timmy faced arguably two of the best defensive bigs of their generation in the two Wallaces, and he held his own.

    In 2007 Duncan had an off shooting game in game 4 against the Cavs, but he did everything else for the Spurs (a basketball game is positively affected by more than just scoring, something Kobe fans don't understand). In every other closeout game he was great. Not sure what you're getting at in this year.

    Also funny how you leave out his 2003 and 1999 closeout performances.

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    Duncan led his team in scoring throughout the playoffs in every one of their championship runs. He also anchored an elite defense every single time (#1 or #2 in the league every time iirc). Tell me how opposing big men did in those elimination games. But of course if you mention anything besides points (and points only), you're a Kobe hater

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    Deuce has 'em snortin'.

    tee, hee.

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