Give me some credit

[Budkin]

I know it's cliche but this thread deserves it:

[silverblk mystix]

gtfo, one game does not make up for 6 years of failure. You can't come in here after Bonner finally has a decent game after years of trash and say I told you so. let's see if he can put a couple more games like these together in future rounds

This.

Even though Lee nidas is a sucky poster - I agree.

[ohmwrecker]

This.

Even though Lee nidas is a sucky poster - I agree.

[silverblk mystix]

Speaking of sucky posters...geez..right on cue.

[ohmwrecker]

I fondle nutsacks for a living.

[Legacy]

"You want a cookie?? ... Here's a cookie!!"

[Stabula]

God damn who gives a

[hater]

meh it is the lakers he's facing. They have no business in the playoffs. Wake me up when he has repeat performances in round 2 and/or 3

[JR3]

This thread is hilarious. Thanks for the laughs!

[chazley]

Bunch of idiots refusing to admit that I was 100% spot on about Bonner. Feels amazing.

[chazley]

Oh, and even though it sounds like a ridiculous statement, Bonner is absolutely our best 1-on-1 low post defender. Tim is a GREAT weakside defensive player, but considering he is lead-footed at this point in his career, his 1-on-1 defensive can be susceptible to occasional lapses due to lack of quickness. Being completely serious, Bonner has a huge advantage being a nerdy white guy because I think every player that iso's against him wants to 'exploit the matchup' and post him up, but he is actually very very good and a strong guy that doesn't mind getting physical. Very much a 'machismo' situation whenever they see him.

[ParadoxEN]

He is our best low-post 1-on-1 defender

This is, simply, not true. Here's data, per Synergy Sports, regarding low-post defense this season:

Player	%Time	Number	PPP	Rank	FGM	FGA	FG%	%TO	%Score
Matt B.	28.0	68	0.79	98	20	47	42.6	16.2	42.6
Tiago S.	32.1	163	0.70	40	51	130	39.2	16.0	35.6
Tim D.	37.3	173	0.76	75	56	138	40.6	11.0	40.5
Dejuan B.	30.3	63	0.83	139	18	47	38.8	7.9	42.9
Boris D.	27.0	116	0.90	188	43	93	46.2	10.3	46.6

As you can see, statistically speaking, Matt Bonner is not the Spurs' best low-post defender this season. Obviously, there are variables (such as sample size) that complicate this matter, but I think it's considerably difficult to formulate a valid argument for the aforementioned claim.

Some questions to ask yourself--

1.) Level of compe ion: what percentage of the "number" column took place against starter-level players? Are, say, Duncan and Splitter more likely to have a larger percentage than Bonner?

2.) Sample size: a small (comparably) sample size often belies reality. Naturally, this requires some extrapolation, but are Bonner's numbers more likely to improve or worsen with increased opportunity?

3.) Time of occurrence: does the quarter/minute/second these post-ups occurred matter? Perhaps data regarding minutes played per quarter would be beneficial?

With all that said, however, I do think Matt Bonner is a better defender than generally assumed, but let's not get carried away.

[chazley]

This is, simply, not true. Here's data, per Synergy Sports, regarding low-post defense this season:

Player	%Time	Number	PPP	Rank	FGM	FGA	FG%	%TO	%Score
Matt B.	28.0	68	0.79	98	20	47	42.6	16.2	42.6
Tiago S.	32.1	163	0.70	40	51	130	39.2	16.0	35.6
Tim D.	37.3	173	0.76	75	56	138	40.6	11.0	40.5
Dejuan B.	30.3	63	0.83	139	18	47	38.8	7.9	42.9
Boris D.	27.0	116	0.90	188	43	93	46.2	10.3	46.6

As you can see, statistically speaking, Matt Bonner is not the Spurs' best low-post defender this season. Obviously, there are variables (such as sample size) that complicate this matter, but I think it's considerably difficult to formulate a valid argument for the aforementioned claim.

Some questions to ask yourself--

1.) Level of compe ion: what percentage of the "number" column took place against starter-level players? Are, say, Duncan and Splitter more likely to have a larger percentage than Bonner?

2.) Sample size: a small (comparably) sample size often belies reality. Naturally, this requires some extrapolation, but are Bonner's numbers more likely to improve or worsen with increased opportunity?

3.) Time of occurrence: does the quarter/minute/second these post-ups occurred matter? Perhaps data regarding minutes played per quarter would be beneficial?

With all that said, however, I do think Matt Bonner is a better defender than generally assumed, but let's not get carried away.

Great post, thanks. I will say though, I am specifically talking about in iso post-up situations, he is the best. That is somewhat different than just low-post defense. Tiago is the only one I would consider to be better than Matt in that regard, so no surprise he shows up on that list.

[pgardn]

7th game wcf. Spurs up by one. The Spurs know OKC will inexplicably isolate Ibaka or Perkins low post with 7 seconds to go. Pop calls a timeout before the inbound to sub Bonner in for Tim...

These are the types of nightmares that kill more than 7 US citizens in their sleep every night.