New XBOX!!!

[td4mvp2k]

Microsoft will host an event at its Redmond, Wash., campus on May 21, where it is expected it will reveal the long-awaited successor to the Xbox 360.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/g...-xbox/2110007/

[baseline bum]

LOL blowing money on a gaming console to use Facebook and control your TV.

LOL x86 CPU on both it and the PS4.

LOL basically a neutered PC with more DRM.

[symple19]

LOL blowing money on a gaming console to use Facebook and control your TV.

LOL x86 CPU on both it and the PS4.

LOL basically a neutered PC with more DRM.

Det you double B, or Cryhavok posting under your handle?

consoles

[DJR210]

LOL at no mod capability / nickel and diming the consumer for ty DLC

LOL at getting on by last years GPU's on a system that wont drop for a year or so

LOL at rumors stating new XBOX being less powerful than the PS4 (which will also suck balls)

LOL ty AMD hardware

LOL at trying to be next gen while being held back to a 400.00 peasant price point

[Trainwreck2100]

yeah but all my achievements

[DJR210]

yeah but all my achievements

I'm thinking it was a joke, but just out of curiosity if not..how much ass has this led to?

[DJR210]

Next gen now, consoles. Arma III on Ultra, FTW.

[NASpurs]

Next gen now, consoles. Arma III on Ultra, FTW.

ing PC elitist , how much pussy has that PC gotten you?

[NASpurs]

How insecure are PC people that they always gotta try to one up console owners like if their lives depended on it. It's hilariously sad

[The Reckoning]

nothing wrong with hooking up your console to a big screen plasma tv, hdmi cable with damn good headphones and having your bros on live.

[NASpurs]

ing losers

[DJR210]

ing losers

Dont hate.

I've been an avid console player for over 20 years. From the NES, to Genesis, SNES, you name it. These days the graphics are the only thing that will keep my attention span for long enough to enjoy something, and the console just doesn't cut it anymore. You spend big money on TV's, and the consoles can't take advantage of it. Wait until 4K res becomes the norm, the new consoles will show their age pretty quickly in their lifespan.

Combined w/ bull money making tactics (subscription fees, DLC, higher game costs, lack of sales, etc.) PC is a win/win. I've saved hundreds from using Steam. The only thing I miss about consoles is the community, PC simply can't compete there.

[baseline bum]

How insecure are PC people that they always gotta try to one up console owners like if their lives depended on it. It's hilariously sad

I'm a console gamer and don't even own a Windows box (Linux is easier to use IMO), but no way I'm forking over $400 for what is essentially a neutered PC in the next gen. Buying current gen consoles made a lot of sense in 2006 back when they had hardware that killed PCs at absolute bargain basement prices. Even more importantly, current gen consoles used processors vastly different from the x86 CPUs in PCs so that ports to PC would often be ty (for instance, the NBA2k games suck on PC in comparison to X360/PS3). Hence, the console is the way better buy in the current gen. That's all changed with the next generation now that the consoles are using x86 CPUs. I mean they're just going to be PCs now, so the ports to PC should be solid.

[DJR210]

Buying current gen consoles made a lot of sense in 2006 back when they had hardware that killed PCs. That's all changed with the next generation now that the consoles are using x86 CPUs. I mean they're just going to be PCs now.

This.

I needed a new PC, why not kill two birds and throw in the extra cash for a high end GPU and cover myself with an investment that will far surpass that of a 4-5 hundred dollar console longevity wise. Gaming at 60 fps (at least), 2160p is gonna be ridiculous on a 60 inch TV.

[baseline bum]

LOL at no mod capability / nickel and diming the consumer for ty DLC

Yeah, this is another reason to ditch the consoles in the next gen. Now that NBA2k will be developed for only one architecture, getting the PC version will be badass to download better jersey textures (they look horrible on the game), faces, new arenas, more teams, etc. I made tons of patches back in the day for the Live series when it was good and I hated not being able to do that when moving to console.

[baseline bum]

This.

I needed a new PC, why not kill two birds and throw in the extra cash for a high end GPU and cover myself with an investment that will far surpass that of a 4-5 hundred dollar console longevity wise. Gaming at 60 fps (at least), 2160p is gonna be ridiculous on a 60 inch TV.

I really can't tell any difference as long as framerate is above 30FPS. The resolution would be awesome though. Are the next gen consoles bound by 1080p?

[DJR210]

I really can't tell any difference as long as framerate is above 30FPS. The resolution would be awesome though. Are the next gen consoles bound by 1080p?

Have you consistently gamed at 60 fps? I never really noticed how bad the fps were on the 360 until I got used to 60 or more.

From what I've read the new consoles are geared for 1080p as the primary resolution. I'm sure they will be able to run at higher resolutions as they become more popular w/ consumers, but you are gonna take a HUGE performance hit and be unable to upgrade. Not to mention Anti Aliasing will not be possible at that res either..this will really hurt those with bigger TV's..

[NASpurs]

Dont hate.

I've been an avid console player for over 20 years. From the NES, to Genesis, SNES, you name it. These days the graphics are the only thing that will keep my attention span for long enough to enjoy something, and the console just doesn't cut it anymore. You spend big money on TV's, and the consoles can't take advantage of it. Wait until 4K res becomes the norm, the new consoles will show their age pretty quickly in their lifespan.

Combined w/ bull money making tactics (subscription fees, DLC, higher game costs, lack of sales, etc.) PC is a win/win. I've saved hundreds from using Steam. The only thing I miss about consoles is the community, PC simply can't compete there.

Ugh I hate getting into these "debates", they're so ing stupid for a consumer product. It's like when Apple and Android s fight one another, SNES/Genesis people had console wars and NVIDIA/ATI or AMD/Intel in the PC building market. People actually refusing another product like it would kill them is preposterous.

I just can't wrap my head around how graphics are the only that that will keep your attention span to enjoy something. I guess that's why YOU play games but I play them to have fun and enjoy myself. Break out of the realities in life. I could give less of a how it looks. Plus I've played beautiful games before that have played like and I've stopped playing it, not even caring what the graphics look. Different strokes for different folks I guess. I stopped being such a graphics when I got out of the PC building phase back in my early-mid 20s

4k being the norm anytime soon, yeah right. Probably in 10 years when these next-gen consoles are dead.

I'll agree with DLC and subscription fees (W.O.W.) being bull . Higher game costs go for both sides of the field unless you're talking about Indie les.

You know what's bull ? Games with DRM and being crippled to death because of constant PC pirating.

[DJR210]

Yeah, this is another reason to ditch the consoles in the next gen. Now that NBA2k will be developed for only one architecture, getting the PC version will be badass to download better jersey textures (they look horrible on the game), faces, new arenas, more teams, etc. I made tons of patches back in the day for the Live series when it was good and I hated not being able to do that when moving to console.

Yes, the possibilities are endless with mods. I've seen some of the mods for 2k13, they are ing nice! I'm hoping with the switch to x86, the Madden franchise is resurrected on the PC..I could imagine the amount of quality mods for a game as big as Madden.. , look at what I was able to do to Skyrim..

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=128422569

[baseline bum]

Have you consistently gamed at 60 fps? I never really noticed how bad the fps were on the 360 until I got used to 60 or more.

From what I've read the new consoles are geared for 1080p as the primary resolution. I'm sure they will be able to run at higher resolutions as they become more popular w/ consumers, but you are gonna take a HUGE performance hit and be unable to upgrade. Not to mention Anti Aliasing will not be possible at that res either..this will really hurt those with bigger TV's..

Yeah, when I was a PC gamer I bought high-end hardware to game at 60FPS and it didn't look any better than 30FPS.

[baseline bum]

Console gaming lost me once they went to PC hardware and away from the impressive architectures they used in the current gen. I wish the consoles would just stick with gaming and be designed as such, but no, a console isn't about gaming anymore; it's about streaming Netflix and HBO Plus, it's about Facebook and watching youtube. I mean that. I can already do all that .

[DJR210]

4k being the norm anytime soon, yeah right. Probably in 10 years when these next-gen consoles are dead.


Higher game costs go for both sides of the field unless you're talking about Indie les.


You know what's bull ? Games with DRM and being crippled to death because of constant PC pirating.

4K is gonna be here sooner than you think. Just wait a year or so after all the rich s stop buying them, and you will see one of the major players drop into the average consumer market. ty brand I would never buy, but check this out:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...Fc9FMgodF1gACw

When I say higher game costs, I'm referring to console retail, to PC retail. PC games are always 10 bucks cheaper which does add up, and Steam will throw out 50-75% off sales WELL before the two years it takes the console to launch their Greatest Hits bull . , I bought Max Payne 3 for 15 bucks during the Steam Christmas sale, that was 60 bucks until just recently..I got GTA IV Complete for ing EIGHT dollars, that is STILL 30 on console.

Want to know who has a problem with DRM? Pirates. I buy my games. I've paid for an internet connection for the past 5 years, don't think thats gonna change soon, especially if Google Fiber comes here as well.

[DJR210]

Console gaming lost me once they went to PC hardware and away from the impressive architectures they used in the current gen. I wish the consoles would just stick with gaming and be designed as such, but no, a console isn't about gaming anymore; it's about streaming Netflix and HBO Plus, it's about Facebook and watching youtube. I mean that. I can already do all that .

Lol, this is Microsoft's bull vision of what the game console should be. Another annoyance of console gaming, they seriously lost focus on what the I bought the console for.

[NASpurs]

I'm a console gamer and don't even own a Windows box (Linux is easier to use IMO), but no way I'm forking over $400 for what is essentially a neutered PC in the next gen. Buying current gen consoles made a lot of sense in 2006 back when they had hardware that killed PCs at absolute bargain basement prices. Even more importantly, current gen consoles used processors vastly different from the x86 CPUs in PCs so that ports to PC would often be ty (for instance, the NBA2k games suck on PC in comparison to X360/PS3). Hence, the console is the way better buy in the current gen. That's all changed with the next generation now that the consoles are using x86 CPUs. I mean they're just going to be PCs now, so the ports to PC should be solid.

100% agreement from me actually. Makes you wonder why Sony and Microsoft went down this route in going into the PC architecture. Obviously to save money on R&D and development costs. But yeah, this is going to be the first console launch since I can remember that the PC will be the better purchase when it comes to raw power. Consoles usually had a leg up for two years or so but now PCs will be the big man on campus. But everyone in this thread is more or less a technophile and understands these things.

Sony and Microsoft probably throwing in the towel when the next-gen after this, console gaming will be in cloud servers. Or maybe they understand that we're reaching a diminishing returns when it comes to graphics and also realize that there's no point in investing so much money into research. We're past the point of the first 3D games, an anti-aliasing. Sure games can look less-jagged but the average joe probably doesn't notice or care.

[NASpurs]

4K is gonna be here sooner than you think. Just wait a year or so after all the rich s stop buying them, and you will see one of the major players drop into the average consumer market. ty brand I would never buy, but check this out:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...Fc9FMgodF1gACw

When I say higher game costs, I'm referring to console retail, to PC retail. PC games are always 10 bucks cheaper which does add up, and Steam will throw out 50-75% off sales WELL before the two years it takes the console to launch their Greatest Hits bull . , I bought Max Payne 3 for 15 bucks during the Steam Christmas sale, that was 60 bucks until just recently..I got GTA IV Complete for ing EIGHT dollars, that is STILL 30 on console.

Want to know who has a problem with DRM? Pirates. I buy my games. I've paid for an internet connection for the past 5 years, don't think thats gonna change soon, especially if Google Fiber comes here as well.

OH wow that TV is relatively pretty cheap. I was under the impression those things still cost an arm and a leg. But in order for 4K to become big, they need people to get new Blu Ray players and new TVs and I doubt the public is ready for that. We probably are but not the average person. And we need a faster internet structure for Netflix to stream that since the average 4K movie is about 100 GB. It feels like it was recently that the public were told to get Blu Ray players and upgrade to HD TVs.

I agree with PC games being cheaper. That's actually a really great thing for PCs.

DRM cripples games just like EA did with Sim City. That's what I mean. Stupid like that pisses me off.