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    I agree moving Manu to the starting lineup is not the answer... and I'm not mad at Danny for doing what he's supposed to be doing with his help defense. All I'm saying with that help D, is when's the last time it resulted in him getting his hands on a ball, or causing a bad pass out of the double. All I ever see is him scrambling to run back out on the shooter. Maybe I've become so frustrated with it that, that's all I see.

    I don't know what the answer for him is, I'm not gonna go all far out and say it's T-Mac or anything, even tho I'd love to see him get some run... We just need Danny to be better, and maybe less 2nd half minutes unless he's shooting the lights out.

    Things like the 8 second call at the end of the game last night also piss me off... it's like he's just not in it half the time.

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    Problem with Danny Green is he has to be wide open in order to make a shot. It's a problem this system creates. The players aren't taught how to shoot over anybody. I mean, it's great and all that we don't play like the Milwaukee Bucks and take contested shots all game, but still, it's something you need to be able to do sometimes in the playoffs.

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    Nah, he's not slumping, that's the kind of player he is. I've been saying it last year and this year. That's why a lot of times during the year, our first play was always to find an open 3 for Green. If he comes out of the gate and hits, keep giving him shots. If he comes out of the gate and misses a couple, just take him out and sit his ass on the bench for the rest of the game, because he's gonna be worthless. He can't drive, dribble, finish, his midrange is cringe worthy. I watch every game, literally every game, this is what Danny Verde is.

    and like always pointed out, he's constantly "trying" to close out on open shooters cause he's sagging off to "help" double... but he rarely accomplishes anything but being caught in the middle. He has good games, but to say he's slumping is to say he's somewhat of a consistent player to begin with, and that's just not the case. It's becoming obvious that he mentally struggles at this point in the season as well, so that really takes the slump factor out.

    I'm not rooting against the guy, trust me, I hope he can throw a run of the good Danny in for us the rest of the way
    No one thinks Green's dribbling issues are the result of him slumping (he did get a couple of nice assets last night, though, and he could have gotten more players not missed chippies). He's in a shooting slump right now, which is hurting his over all production. A Green who shoots 50 percent or better from three is an asset even though he has those faults. His main problem is that he's incredibly streaky. He's had good games from midrange and driving (he had a good finish last night, for example). He just isn't consistent enough to be a bona fide starter.

    He actually played a pretty good game on defense last night. His help defense was pretty effective, and it only looked bad because Blake hit a couple of shots. Leonard's man hit some, too. Green's man defense was pretty good, but he got too excited and bit on too many fakes. I think he's still the better match-up for Blake going forward.

    Green's in a slump offensively, because he's a shooter in a shooting slump. You don't just pull him quickly because of that, though. The Spurs could really use Green's shooting against OKC and Denver/Golden State, and he should get more open looks. Even though Neal can do as pretty good job in this series, in future ones he doesn't match up as favorably. Defensively, Green is making bone-headed plays. But he hasn't been as bad as people think he's been. His mistakes are just amplified because he's guarding the on-ball player more than he usually does. Outside of starting Joseph, Green is the best option for them to check Blake, Thompson/Curry.

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    I mean, you're basically saying what I'm saying. I wasn't saying his ball handling, etc is a result of a slump, I don't even agree he's in a slump, he just is who he is. I was saying those things to point out how worthless he is if his shot isn't going down at a 40%+ clip. He's streaky, and all he is, is an outside shooter. You don't slump when you're streaky, you're just streaky, and he's not hitting right now. Whether it be not open enough looks, playoff pressure, or just a couple bad games... Hopefully he can get it together.



    Still think he's average at VERY best defensively. Laterally slow, not intelligent, not engaged enough. Lucky he has our system and a prototypical body to cover 2's.

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    And you want Neal in the starting lineup....no to that . Blair can be effective as a post defender on occasion. Especially if they face up (he has quick hands and can force turnovers.
    Blair's problem is he has chicken legs. A guy like Chuck Hayes is a better low post defender because he has a stronger base. A guy like Pau Gasol would struggle posting up Hayes because he can't move him. Because Blair can't keep his position well he's forced to try reaching.

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    Blair's problem is he has chicken legs. A guy like Chuck Hayes is a better low post defender because he has a stronger base. A guy like Pau Gasol would struggle posting up Hayes because he can't move him. Because Blair can't keep his position well he's forced to try reaching.
    I didn't say Blair is a good defender, his has quick hands that can be disruptive to players who face up alot (Garnett, & Amare)

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    de-activate Green

    activate TMac

    do this Pop
    You are clearly joking....Right?

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    If we're relying on Danny Green to be a game changer then we're in trouble because that'll never happen. He'll find his shot when he's 120% open and he'll have a little streak, his biggest problem is that he sucks on defense and has for the past few months. He's always in the paint trying to double and is almost always late to get back when the ball goes to his man. I'm not sure if this is something that Pop and the rest of the staff have been working on during practice but Pop can't be happy with the results, it happens all the time.. Camping out in the paint and then slowly jogging back with your arm half extended and biting on pump fakes should get you on the bench.

    I have to agree that we should at least see what T-Mac has to offer, can't be worse on defense and can't be worse on offense.

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    The thing with Danny Green is he has made some really dumb plays. He needs to relax out there. I think he gets too nervous.

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    I don't know about this one...

    Green was 5-7, and Blair was 6-6 tonight.

    I think - with Green - that he just needs to keep shooting.

    Also, Blair might play some heavy minutes with Splitter's ankle sprain.

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    Green is money with the corner pocket three. Blair is money with the pick'n roll. Just stick to the strengths.

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