OT: Dwight just tweeted (Wants to make it up to Laker fans)

[djohn2oo8]

I like Harden, he went to Artesia IIRC ... local boy.
Im just telling you from a basketball perspective he fits better with Steph or Dirk ... why do I care where he goes (unless Boston) if he leaves L.A. Have I ever given you any indication that I hate the ROx or Harden?

I said teh same thing about Shaq in PHX and and in Cleveland. Guys that live in teh paint like Harden dont want a big with limited range clogging the lane. Pau if ever got his confidence back would be a much better fit for your team especially if Robinson develops as a stretch 4. But his defense is slightly above mediocre ... so I could see why they may not want to go that route again plus he makes too much. But Pau with McHale tutlage in the post would be scary and Pau and Harden would be a great passing combo.

I dont just look at trades/signing from a star perspective. That i why I predicted a 2nd round exit for this LAKERS team BEFORE all teh injuries ...with a WCF ceiling ...the peices never fit imho ....

McHale just cannot coach this team though. Harden has been used as the PG when that's not who he should be, even with Lin, but the way McHale uses him, it's like he's the only option. He also gave Harden too much free reign. I do think Pau would be a better fit with Harden if McHale is coaching, but if he's not then I want Dwight there.

[Spurs9]

McHale just cannot coach this team though. Harden has been used as the PG when that's not who he should be, even with Lin, but the way McHale uses him, it's like he's the only option. He also gave Harden too much free reign. I do think Pau would be a better fit with Harden if McHale is coaching, but if he's not then I want Dwight there.

Harden more concerned with which hooker he can drop $50k on next than winning a playoff game.

[midnightpulp]

I like Harden, he went to Artesia IIRC ... local boy.
Im just telling you from a basketball perspective he fits better with Steph or Dirk ... why do I care where he goes (unless Boston) if he leaves L.A. Have I ever given you any indication that I hate the ROx or Harden?

I said teh same thing about Shaq in PHX and and in Cleveland. Guys that live in teh paint like Harden dont want a big with limited range clogging the lane. Pau if ever got his confidence back would be a much better fit for your team especially if Robinson develops as a stretch 4. But his defense is slightly above mediocre ... so I could see why they may not want to go that route again plus he makes too much. But Pau with McHale tutlage in the post would be scary and Pau and Harden would be a great passing combo.

I dont just look at trades/signing from a star perspective. That i why I predicted a 2nd round exit for this LAKERS team BEFORE all teh injuries ...with a WCF ceiling ...the peices never fit imho ....

Not always true. When Kobe was primarily a slasher, Shaq was exceptional at sealing his man (usually the other team's shot blocker), allowing Kobe a clear lane to the basket. The '01 series, I remember Kobe getting into the lane at will because of that. Duncan does the same for Parker and Manu.

I never agreed with the oft repeated idea that a big "clogs the lane" for the penetrators on his team. Good teams/coaches don't allow to that happen. They smartly use their bigs to open up the paint through seals and the like.

[Killakobe81]

The problem isnt Howard or Pau or payroll or even injuries to the surrounding cast. Its Kobe being a tired old bag who just had a major injury. As much as people on Kobe for being an egotistical rapist ballhog, anyone who aint trollin or hatin knows he is a proven 1A on a le winning team. You cant just replace that, even as LA, because players like him are so rare in the first place.

Even if Lakers keep Pau and lock up Dwight, they arent winning a le any time soon unless Kobe makes a stunning recovery and dantoni suddenly learns how to control a lockerroom PJ would have trouble managing.

I agree neither one of those bigs can lead a team to a le in fact I would say at his age Tim has a better shot with the right pieces and good health. SO if Tim cant lead a team to a le and he is better than both of those guys ... what chance does Dwight have of leading or being led by Harden to one? I am not hating just looking at rosters ... I would choose Houston. Coaching both those guys suck tbh ...which is why Dallas would make more sense than either team ...Lakers just have the better city and Bird rights ...

[djohn2oo8]

Harden more concerned with which hooker he can drop $50k on next than winning a playoff game.

And still carried McHale to the playoffs.

[Killakobe81]

Not always true. When Kobe was primarily a slasher, Shaq was exceptional at sealing his man (usually the other team's shot blocker), allowing Kobe a clear lane to the basket. The '01 series, I remember Kobe getting into the lane at will because of that. Duncan does the same for Parker and Manu.

I never agreed with the oft repeated idea that a big "clogs the lane" for the penetrators on his team. Good teams/coaches don't allow to that happen. They smartly use their bigs to open up the paint through seals and the like.

Agreed. But look at what you said Good coaches ... is McHale or D'antoni a good coach? Shaq had no range but floor spacing was good because of the triangle ... Plus shaq drew double teams ...Dwight is doubled but to get steals they double late because his hands are suspect and they get steals. And we all know PJ was a great coach.

Im not saying it NEVER works but it is not always prudent to clog a lane when you have a palyer that excells at attacking the paint. You may not agree but on all levels when I have a excellent pentrating PG or wing I prefer having a Gasol type that can open the lane over a Dwight type that clogs it.
But of course if that is your personnell you have to adjust I just dont think McHale or D'antoni are teh coaches to make that adjustment tbh ... Rick C can.

[z0sa]

I agree neither one of those bigs can lead a team to a le in fact I would say at his age Tim has a better shot with the right pieces and good health. SO if Tim cant lead a team to a le and he is better than both of those guys ... what chance does Dwight have of leading or being led by Harden to one? I am not hating just looking at rosters ... I would choose Houston. Coaching both those guys suck tbh ...which is why Dallas would make more sense than either team ...Lakers just have the better city and Bird rights ...

DHo isnt leaving $30 mil on the table just because he wont win a le anyway so the speculation is pointless. Plus its terrible press for a superstar in his prime to change teams three times in two seasons, especially with all the controversial (read:re ed) hes said and done in that timespan. Hes quickly losing bargaining chips and its quite obvious hes a low iq player who wont age well.

[Killakobe81]

And I meant Marc Gasol not Pau above ... ^(but a healthy and confident Pau would work too I just have doubts he regains that confidence)

Right now if you factoring in salary, fit and all-around game Marc is better than both Dwight and Pau ... who woulda thunk the 2nd round trhow in would be arguably the best center (not named Duncan) in the NBA in 2013?

Just like Charlie Murphy is considered by many to be funnier than Eddie based off his turns on Chapelle and work on the Boondocks ...

[z0sa]

Not always true. When Kobe was primarily a slasher, Shaq was exceptional at sealing his man (usually the other team's shot blocker), allowing Kobe a clear lane to the basket. The '01 series, I remember Kobe getting into the lane at will because of that. Duncan does the same for Parker and Manu.

I never agreed with the oft repeated idea that a big "clogs the lane" for the penetrators on his team. Good teams/coaches don't allow to that happen. They smartly use their bigs to open up the paint through seals and the like.

Howard has no clue how to use his body in those types of subtle high iq ways. A shame and a waste of an amazing specimen really. Perhaps one day he will learn but I honestly doubt he has the brains or humbleness. Chances are scrubs like Baynes will continue getting in his head easily and he'll continue thinking fighting for position includes muay thai.

[midnightpulp]

Agreed. But look at what you said Good coaches ... is McHale or D'antoni a good coach? Shaq had no range but floor spacing was good because of the triangle ... Plus shaq drew double teams ...Dwight is doubled but to get steals they double late because his hands are suspect and they get steals. And we all know PJ was a great coach.

Im not saying it NEVER works but it is not always prudent to clog a lane when you have a palyer that excells at attacking the paint. You may not agree but on all levels when I have a excellent pentrating PG or wing I prefer having a Gasol type that can open the lane over a Dwight type that clogs it.
But of course if that is your personnell you have to adjust I just dont think McHale or D'antoni are teh coaches to make that adjustment tbh ... Rick C can.

Yeah, "good coaches" was my caveat. Also helps if your big has a good bball IQ, something Dwight doesn't seem to possess.

[Budkin]

[Fergie The Florists]

you just don't want him pairing with Harden.

shut ur in the booty azz up. Just because ur wet dream of Dwight to Houston is at best.... a dream ain't no reason to get that pussy of yours hurt.

[Killakobe81]

shut ur in the booty azz up. Just because ur wet dream of Dwight to Houston is at best.... a dream ain't no reason to get that pussy of yours hurt.

Why you trying to go Jason Collins styles on DJohn's rectum?
Let him get a stiffy on the proposition of DWight and if it happens ...even better.

But the funniest part of his posts (I like Djohn btw) he got upset when he thought that I was implying his team was lessor than my crappy Lakers. Even though his team is also crap and all I said was let Dwight go one of the the "lessor Texas teams" ... meaning less than Spurs ...

But apparently I had to spell that out for him

[spurraider21]

he can make it up to them by leaving tbh

[GuerillaBlack]

I like Harden, he went to Artesia IIRC ... local boy.
Im just telling you from a basketball perspective he fits better with Steph or Dirk ... why do I care where he goes (unless Boston) if he leaves L.A. Have I ever given you any indication that I hate the ROx or Harden?

I said teh same thing about Shaq in PHX and and in Cleveland. Guys that live in teh paint like Harden dont want a big with limited range clogging the lane. Pau if ever got his confidence back would be a much better fit for your team especially if Robinson develops as a stretch 4. But his defense is slightly above mediocre ... so I could see why they may not want to go that route again plus he makes too much. But Pau with McHale tutlage in the post would be scary and Pau and Harden would be a great passing combo.

I dont just look at trades/signing from a star perspective. That i why I predicted a 2nd round exit for this LAKERS team BEFORE all teh injuries ...with a WCF ceiling ...the peices never fit imho ....

All of those dropped passes by Asik that Harden and Lin send his way would be dunks by Howard. They can all easily work together. Plus Dwight would have fun with this young team and own the city. Better fit than an aging Dirk in Dallas imo. The dubs are interesting though.

[Killakobe81]

All of those dropped passes by Asik that Harden and Lin send his way would be dunks by Howard. They can all easily work together. Plus Dwight would have fun with this young team and own the city. Better fit than an aging Dirk in Dallas imo. The dubs are interesting though.

Yall can take him if he wants max money.
I get the Miami thing was special and Riles is a Don ...
But if Lebron, Wade and Bosh can take a little less to superfriend up how can Dwight ask for the max? Dirk took a little lessto stay in Dallas Duncan too to stay in SA. i know Cubes has screwed Dirk since the le but at least they rang before.

I Will say this right here, right now if we have to pay Dwight the max to get him to stay ...meaning that is the only reason he would choose us, not the legacy or any other reason ...I say let him walk or sign and trade for some picks or a 3-way for some talent ...I dont want him.

[djohn2oo8]

shut ur in the booty azz up. Just because ur wet dream of Dwight to Houston is at best.... a dream ain't no reason to get that pussy of yours hurt.

You obviously want Dwight more than I do

Why you trying to go Jason Collins styles on DJohn's rectum?
Let him get a stiffy on the proposition of DWight and if it happens ...even better.

But the funniest part of his posts (I like Djohn btw) he got upset when he thought that I was implying his team was lessor than my crappy Lakers. Even though his team is also crap and all I said was let Dwight go one of the the "lessor Texas teams" ... meaning less than Spurs ...

But apparently I had to spell that out for him

love the illusion that I think Dwight is the only option. yeah I'd want him on the team, and that's where I think he'd wind up if he walked. But they have other options.

[Killakobe81]

You obviously want Dwight more than I do

love the illusion that I think Dwight is the only option. yeah I'd want him on the team, and that's where I think he'd wind up if he walked. But they have other options.

Itz all good I want him back just not a max deal ...

[HarlemHeat37]

Howard in LA doesn't make sense to me, for his sake, tbh..

He should go to Houston, tbh..

[ElNono]

In retrospect, this generation of 'superstars' is full of pussies and mental midgets, tbh.... KD, Dwight, Rose, Melo, etc.

[jeebus]

Itz all good I want him back just not a max deal ...

Kemp's not gonna sign anywhere unless he gets offered max. With Jimmy and The Master at the helm, he'll probably be offered that in LA because there's no one else out there. Someone will be amnestyed, just don't know who yet.

[Thebesteva]

In retrospect, this generation of 'superstars' is full of pussies and mental midgets, tbh.... KD, Dwight, Rose, Melo, etc.

Conveniently forgot to mention the GOAT mental midget Lebron?

[ElNono]

Conveniently forgot to mention the GOAT mental midget Lebron?

Lebron actually got over it and lead a team to the le, All-Star-blocked-shot-notwithstanding... you can't win a ship as the alpha dog if you're a mental midget, IMO.

[Thebesteva]

Lebron actually got over it and lead a team to the le, All-Star-blocked-shot-notwithstanding... you can't win a ship as the alpha dog if you're a mental midget, IMO.

Not unless you assemble one of the greatest teams of all time.....

[ElNono]

Not unless you assemble one of the greatest teams of all time.....

Doesn't matter. Lebron was the go-to guy when the hit the fan and he delivered every time. This wasn't Bosh or Wade saving his bacon. Dude stepped up to the plate. You could say before last season he was a mental midget, but not right now.

If you want to talk about allegedly great teams full of HoFs that didn't do squat, I have a couple of Lakers teams to talk about.