Oladipo should go in top 7.
What would the Spurs have to do to acquire a higher pick? Could they buy a pick with their capspace?
I just don't know what the spurs would do in free agency besides sure up the bench. Player like Casspi, wright, Marion come to kind. With the current system, I don't see an alteration to the starting five, which is pretty solid. Instead I can see the spurs swinging for a project big in this draft to groom for the post TD era.
Agree and that's what I'm hoping.
Of the four teams that have two first round picks (ATL, UTH, CLE, PHO), and might want to off load the later one, only Phoenix doesn't have a clean cap sheet, and their second pick is #30. The other three have done a good job of either avoiding or offloading bad contracts, the usual baggage to go with a pick in a trade. Having no real liquid assets ourselves, it's unlikely we can move up. It would take Bertans or Hanga or both, and I'm not sure the Spurs want to start the stash and develop cycle over again with a new pick.
Looks tough to move up since teams really dont have the dinancial incentive. The only piece that we could use to pull a George Hill would probably be Tiago, but that isn't happening. Here's hoping there is enough big an depth late into the first round.
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No way he drops that far. I think we will see him go top 3-5 once the combine and workouts start up.
Pretty big list still but realistic prospects (somewhat) at the 28th spot that are intriguing in some way to me in no particular order are:
Gorgui Dieng
Giannis Adetokunbo
Sergey Karasev
Dennis Schroeder
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Lorenzo Brown
Mam Jaiteh
Erick Green
I like that guy.
DX has him at 25. nbadn has him at 11.
I wonder how much better he will be then Livio-Jean? Both international players who are the same height and the same age and both players are just know getting noticed.
As far as a big what are your thoughts on Joel Embid a 6'11 center he is young only 19 but he seem to have a lot of upside. I know his back was hurting a little at the Nike Summit but watching all the drills he looks like he could be good.
Livio-Jean is a 6'8" rail thin PF with no perimeter skills who will struggle to make it in the NBA. Adetokunbo is a 6'9" multi-skilled player who could probably be anything from a 2 to a 4. Size and weight comparisons don't tell any of the tale.
So what do you think of Joel Embid?
I don't think we take a SF this draft. Bertans seems to be developing nicely and if he comes over next year, then we are set. If not, then I think we sign a rental until the following year when he would surely join the team.
We are set at PG as well. CoJo is growing before our eyes. Even if he plays at a plateaued level, I think we have our depth chart at PG with TP, CoJo and either NDC or Mills. Mills could opt out and that would actually simplify our PG order.
The late season addition of Baynes reduced the need for a big and seeing him man handle D12 gives hope for him having an active role next year. He slides into Blairs slot, with a nice upgrade at the position. Of course if there is an obvious steal of a big at #28 we take him. But given the choice between a project big and a really good SG, I think our need is SG and we draft that position.
We need to plan for post-Manu and even for the inevitable weeks of injured Manu. This could be a good year to grab a good SG and get them indoctrinated into the system. Unless we draft a Kawhi style player at the 2, whoever we draft won't see much in the way of playing time until year 2 or 3. Most likely as Manu retires. I see us letting Neal walk.
So there it is, I'm calling our draft pick as a SG with the 2nd rounder being a stashed development big.
^ IMO, Spurs needing a SG really depends on how they view De Colo and to a lesser extent Joseph.
If Spurs believes that De Colo will likely end up as a good NBA player, they will give him more than the third string PG slot behind Parker and Joseph. He will get most of his minutes at SG.
For Joseph, he is big enough to play some SG alongside Parker and, if Spurs believes he can be more than a 15mpg backup PG, they will plan to play him some SG.
Not to mention they might have some faith in Danny Green...
Seriously. Historically, the Spurs schemes have focused on a simplified, inter-changeable position structure: 1 pg, 2 Wings, 2 Bigs (compared to the traditional defined 5 role: PG, SG, SF, PF, C). Typically, one of those Wing players is a creative type, and one a focused defender (and 3pt shooter). Given Kawhi's demonstrated potential, it would be foolish to box him into the 3 and D spot, so he's the creative type. The other wing spot would historically be a 3 and D guy, which is right up Green's alley. Not to mention that Danny's a pretty solid all-around player - he gets a decent number of assists and rebounds as well.
For SG I like Lorenzo Brown 6'4 NC and Jamal Franklin 6'5 San Diego St.
For Big Man I like Mike Muscula 6'11
For International Pick I would throw out Jean Charles-France - Nike Summit he dominated for what its worth.(Replace Neal with Hanga and Blair with Bertrans)
We are going to be incredibly tight on roster spots for the next 2 seasons. If the FO doesn't see one of their top guys available when we pick, I wouldn't be surprised if they drop down to a higher risk-higher reward draft and stash player type rather than tie up a roster spot for a couple years with a blah pick.
^ If they drop out if the first that has to mean that Bertans or/and Hamga are being signed I would think.
True. How would they trade out picks? Just swap a 2nd + cash for their 1st?
Yeah I'm not sure how that would look -- maybe trade for a future first? I do like the accelerated draft and stash trend that is emerging out of the front office. It started with Nando and hopefully now with Bertans. Spurs are several years away from being terrible where they are able to get all-star level first round talent, so this formula will have to do until then. I'm all for them continuing it this draft, including trading down the 1st. Of course I wouldn't scoff if they were able to flip Neal and the pick for a higher position...
The official early entry list was released yesterday:
http://www.nba.com/2013/news/05/01/2...icial-release/
As always, if you want a thread about a specific draft prospect that hasn't one, just let me know.
One guy that piqued my interest is Janis Timma.
I happened to see him play in a couple of games at the U19 World Championship because he was on the same team as Bertans. He is a solidly build 6-7 SF with decent athleticism and good rebounding instincts. His shooting was inconsistent (like the rest of the team, i.e. Bertans shot 27% from 3 in the whole tournament) but he showed that he can hit from three point range. FWIW recently he was also named MVP of the Baltic Basketball League finals.
He is definitely a secound round candidate with a lower ceiling than a guy like Karasev but he fits the need for a backup SF and would most likely be available at the end of the second round.
This GSW series reaffirms my belief that we'll draft a SG with our first round pick. We need to look at someone who can be a defensive specialist, a shut down guy. Offensive ability would be second. Kawhi is a great defender, but we need someone who can naturally match up with a 1 or 2 without leaving a mismatch elsewhere.
Im starting to agree with the SG thing...specially because Neal and Mills are too short.
Watching Klay shoot, get rebounds, post, dunk...maybe a new SG is what we need.
The urgency, IMO, is higher than the urgency for another position.
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