NBA: Westboro Baptist Church planning on protesting game 5 in OKC

[NASpurs]

You seem upset. Why?

I get annoyed easily.

[NASpurs]

And why is it that every time you reply to me you double post? It happened in the other thread as well a couple of times.

[DemonLuv]

Bring it on WBC!

[ambchang]

I didn't quite understand why evangelicals were in such a stubborn state of denial climate change until recently, but iirc it has something to do with Noah's Ark. I think.

I find that bizarre. If anything, I find people in the energy and mining sector being more in denial of climate change. Not exactly sure how Noah's arc can lead to climate change denial.

The way you're pretending that the government's laws are completely splintered/can't be blamed on Christian values is intellectually dishonest. If Christians simply opposed gay marriage at the Church level and not at the state level, I wouldn't care. No one is saying Churches have to start respecting same sex marriage. When the majority of Christians say they think gay marriage shouldn't be legal, they're inherently saying gay couples should receive unfair tax treatment as that's a byproduct of gay marriage being illegal. Whether it's actually something they want or it's simply ignorance of the tax code (which is inexcusable since you should be well educated on the advantages/disadvantages to marriage if you have a strong opinion as to how it should be defined), gay couples currently pay up to 60% more in taxes than straight couples.

As for why married couples should have a tax break vs. unmarried couples, it's a different issue but something I agree 100% with Christians on. This country has an abundance of kids raised in unstable single parent homes when there's tons of evidence that makes it clear kids receive the best upbringing when his/her parents are married. Getting married and having a stable family is behavior that should be encouraged.


Again, if religion was completely splintered from the government and it's laws, I wouldn't give a .

I am fine with that view, but this has more to do with the politics of religion rather than the religious views itself, which was not what I read earlier on in your posts.

People should have the rights to be married/not married protected as much as the next right, whether that ultimately leads to a burden to society is another point. I find it quite hypocritical of you to condone taxing on singles while oppose so for another group of minorities.

Christians opposing marriage to same-sex couples resulting in the 60% tax difference is not the same as saying Christians think same sex couples should be taxed 60% more than other married couples.

[Blake]

And why is it that every time you reply to me you double post? It happened in the other thread as well a couple of times.

Dunno. It must be tmobile or my galaxy wreaking havoc.

Too lazy to edit to say "double post"

[ambchang]

In what context is it ok to kill sexuals?

Could you quote the passage? I am assuming you are talking about Leviticus 18, but have to be sure to respond correctly.

[Cane]

How much money do the WBC lawyers make anyway just to trollol around?

[td4mvp2k]

I'm a Christian, and I am ashamed of people like this. They are not true to the word of God, they think they represent God\Christ but they are really representing the other guy. I am not a fan of sexuality, but to take time to protest gays and all this stuff is not the way of a good person\Christian.

u n ur peeps need 2 stfu foo

[Monster1776]

Dunno. It must be tmobile or my galaxy wreaking havoc.

Too lazy to edit to say "double post"

Or it could be you're a dumb who has issues trying to work the buttons that are labled in English.

[NASpurs]

Or it could be you're a dumb who has issues trying to work the buttons that are labled in English.

Seems accurate.

[Monster1776]

LOL since when is Oklahoma considered the south? When WBC does do their little protest Im sure the WBC members are going in shock of many Okies who walk over and join their little protest. will probably boggle their hating minds.

Since Texas became Northern Mexico and y'all lost the Mexican-American War 200 years after the fact. Nearly 10 percent of your economy is carried out by Illegals and Mexicans are only two percent away from becoming the major ethnic group in Texas lmfao.

[Woo Bum-kon]

I would be the first to say that I do not entirely understand Christianity, and I am not exactly sure how that is an issue, because I doubt there is one single person who understands the entire context of their beliefs, theist or not.

However, to address your point, this passage was part of a larger passage of how to treat murder and manslaughter. It is a rule used to discourage/stop people from beating their slaves, and there are many other passages that talks about the rights of a slave. There are passages immediately after the one you quoted of talking about freeing a slave after abuses, as slaves were taken back then either through capturing from war (would have been dead otherwise) or through payment of debt (no laws governing their treatment prior to these passages, leading to abuses.

You type way too much.

First of all, you claimed that the Bible prohibited the beating of slaves. You were extremely wrong. Not only could slaves be beaten, they could be beaten to death, because they are their owner's property. And you're trying to rationalize that.

So you are saying that even if you are logically proven to be wrong, you would not convert? So what's your point of quoting all those logic that you had earlier on?

No, I am saying that I won't be logically proven wrong. The theist's position is inherently illogical. If, by some miracle, I did make a mistake and was proven wrong, I'll own up to it.

How would you know? Have you read the entire thing, or did you just spend a lot of time reading on one side of the fence?

I know because there are passages that are in direct contradiction to other passages.

And no, never said it was your fault, just pointing out your logical fallacies.

You don't know what that phrase means.

So you have already made up your mind that reading a few sentences out of a rather thick book is enough to understand those few sentences, and that you are actively criticizing a subject you have very little knowledge on.

still trying to rationalize murder
still accusing me of being ignorant when I already showed myself to be more knowledgeable than you when it comes to slavery in the Bible

I suppose there is no point in arguing then, as you clearly do not have any indication of listening to arguments that do not align with your built in biases and ignorance of the subject.

I was raised a theist. I am probably more objective than any of you theists here who are only Christians because they were raised as such. I'm done giving the Bible the benefit of the doubt.

So far, you haven't presented any argument at all, with all your verbiage. All you have posted has been, "Read the entire thing!" as if I need to read the entire Bible before coming to a conclusion over whether sexuals should be killed or not.

Do you believe that unruly children should be stoned to death?
Do you believe that sexuals should be put to death?
Do you believe that rape victims should marry their rapists?
Do you think a person should be able to beat a slave to death so long as the slave doesn't die right away?
Do you believe non-believers should be executed?

All that is in the Bible. I don't need to read the entire thin to know that God is an asshole.

[Woo Bum-kon]

discussion

You don't discuss. All you do is belittle and condescend. And you're so bent at your agenda that "discussion" is not possible with you.

I do discuss. I ask theist questions and I answer them.

And you deserve belittling, after the stupid you have posted so far. You accused me of having a hivemind mentality based off jack . And you also accused me of being brainwashed based off jack . If you don't trust Evil Bible, look up the passages yourself. Only a brainwashed, hive-mentality theist can look at passages condoning rape and murder and claim that they don't condone rape and murder.

[NASpurs]

I do discuss. I ask theist questions and I answer them.

And you deserve belittling, after the stupid you have posted so far. You accused me of having a hivemind mentality based off jack . And you also accused me of being brainwashed based off jack . If you don't trust Evil Bible, look up the passages yourself. Only a brainwashed, hive-mentality theist can look at passages condoning rape and murder and claim that they don't condone rape and murder.

Only someone like yourself who's agenda to belittle everything Christianity would waste your ing weekend nights posting on religious threads like you do as I've witnessed countless times. You're a got of the highest order with absolutely no lenience towards anything religious. It's so hilarious how you try to belittle ANY theist. I don't give a if they're up to your level intellectual (which comes from your constantly posting evilbible.com or anything ing website with biased views). You must have a ing miserable life, seriously bro and yeah I know, I'm attacking you but it's only because your views are hilarious to me. You're a ing waste of all that intellect.

[Malice]

LOL ing bible thumping belt, armpit of america...

[Monster1776]

The way you're pretending that the government's laws are completely splintered/can't be blamed on Christian values is intellectually dishonest. If Christians simply opposed gay marriage at the Church level and not at the state level, I wouldn't care. No one is saying Churches have to start respecting same sex marriage. When the majority of Christians say they think gay marriage shouldn't be legal, they're inherently saying gay couples should receive unfair tax treatment as that's a byproduct of gay marriage being illegal. Whether it's actually something they want or it's simply ignorance of the tax code (which is inexcusable since you should be well educated on the advantages/disadvantages to marriage if you have a strong opinion as to how it should be defined), gay couples currently pay up to 60% more in taxes than straight couples.

Pretty sure that's actually how most Christians think, I'd be in that camp; the only hold up is probably because how the politicians do a job at wording things and how the media likes to spin it.

[Woo Bum-kon]

Only someone like yourself who's agenda to belittle everything Christianity would waste your ing weekend nights posting on religious threads like you do as I've witnessed countless times. You're a got of the highest order with absolutely no lenience towards anything religious. It's so hilarious how you try to belittle ANY theist. I don't give a if they're up to your level intellectual (which comes from your constantly posting evilbible.com or anything ing website with biased views). You must have a ing miserable life, seriously bro and yeah I know, I'm attacking you but it's only because your views are hilarious to me. You're a ing waste of all that intellect.

[Monster1776]

LOL ing bible thumping belt, armpit of america...

I've noticed just as many intolerant asshole atheists as there are intolerant asshole Christians.

[Banzai]

Has Westboro ever been attacked? I can't imagine yelling at them will solve the problem..would it be worth getting arrested after beating the out of them?

[NASpurs]

I wish I knew how you were in real life, no lie bro. I don't think I've ever met anyone like yourself. You're probably cool but you're just a got on the internet for some reason and more towards Christians.

[AaronY]

Welcome to Sodom and Gomorrhah ladies and gentleman.

[Monster1776]

Do you believe that unruly children should be stoned to death?
Do you believe that sexuals should be put to death?
Do you believe that rape victims should marry their rapists?
Do you think a person should be able to beat a slave to death so long as the slave doesn't die right away?
Do you believe non-believers should be executed?

All that is in the Bible. I don't need to read the entire thin to know that God is an asshole.

Luke 22:20, "This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood."

Heb. 8:13 which says, "When He said, 'A new covenant,' He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear."

"be at peace with one another," (Mark 9:50) and "with all men," (Rom. 12:18)

Rom. 14:19 says, "pursue the things which make for peace and the building up of one another." After all, "God has called us to peace," (1 Cor. 7:15)

Instead, we are to avoid them. We are not to be violent to anyone since the old theonomic, covenantal system has been done away with (Heb. 8:13). Instead, we are to be kind to them (2 Tim. 2:24-25) and show them love (1 Cor. 16:14; 2 Cor. 5:14)

The old testament is included in the bible as an accounting of our history and is meant to give perspective to the actions of Jesus Christ. True Christians follow the teachings of Jesus, that is messages of love and compassion. You cannot comment on a book you have not fully read and thus cannot fully comprehend; when you do you're just as ignorant as the Westboro Church lemmings.

[Monster1776]

I wish I knew how you were in real life, no lie bro. I don't think I've ever met anyone like yourself. You're probably cool but you're just a got on the internet for some reason and more towards Christians.

People enjoy being assholes on the internet. It's the only place where there's no repercussions for their actions so they get to feel slightly important or better at the expense of others to escape the reality of being a very small meaningless cog in a rather large machine.

[NASpurs]

People enjoy being assholes on the internet. It's the only place where there's no repercussions for their actions so they get to feel slightly important or better at the expense of others to escape the reality of being a very small meaningless cog in a rather large machine.

it's ing sad if you ask me. The internet is a giant megaphone and some are obnoxiously louder than others. They probably don't get enough love in real life and look for it anywhere they can get it. Now they're going to accuse us for being internet psychologists.

[Blake]

Could you quote the passage? I am assuming you are talking about Leviticus 18, but have to be sure to respond correctly.

Leviticus 20:13