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Rather not play Memphis
they love to injure everybody they play
I'd rather play a healthy Memphis team than Westbrook-less OKC tbh.
Rather not play Memphis
they love to injure everybody they play
MG : 80 games
TD : 69 games
The number of missed games is important in the awards voting.
The minutes played argument might hold more water if Gasol's overall production numbers were higher than Tim's. If he averaged less points, rebounds, blocks, etc per game, but produced more total over the year and played in more games.
But Duncan's total numbers are greater than Mark's, even in fewer games. Points: 1227 vs 1127. Rebs: 686 vs 622. Blocks: 183 vs 139.
Ask CEOs who they'd rather have: the guy who spends more time at work but produces less, or the guy who spends less time at work but produces more. The vast majority would choose the latter. That's Tim Duncan.
Kevin Garnett and Marcus Camby say hi.
Gasol's only argument is total minutes, tbh..
As I've been saying all year, he's now arguably the most overrated player in the NBA..
He had a 19% usage rate this year on a mediocre offensive team, he has never had to carry any sort of load, despite playing on a team that struggles to generate offense, tbh..
.....and in less mpg!!
Then Lebron is right; he should have won it. Since minutes is the big factor now, and not rebounds or blocks or steals.
And where's Kobe? He played over 3000 minutes.
I don't care what position they list him in. Center. Guard. Forward. Just get Timmy on that first team. He's the best big in the game. He destroyed Dwight on a psychological level to a point where he wasn't even able to outplay Aron Baynes in game 4. The clip where Duncan spins and just slams it in DPOY Gasol's face should be a sufficient argument.
it's espn. They probably fine their commentators for every Spurs mention.
Why does Steve Kerr get a vote? Don't the coaches vote for all-nba teams? Besides, not sure M Gasol is even the best big man on his own team much less in the NBA.
Seriously. I don't even hate Gasol but the amount of people sucking his right now is ridiculous. If KG put up TD's numbers this season, everybody would be talking about how he's the unanimous best big in the league.Gasol's only argument is total minutes, tbh..
As I've been saying all year, he's now arguably the most overrated player in the NBA..
He had a 19% usage rate this year on a mediocre offensive team, he has never had to carry any sort of load, despite playing on a team that struggles to generate offense, tbh
Historically, how does TD and MG do against each other?
ing ridiculous. Yeah most of Tim's numbers are better. Tim passes eyeball better than Gasol. Spurs record is better. Where's the respect factor. Kerr got a couple chips w Tim.
The way he worded it made it sound like he had a vote, but now that you mention it, it may have just been a figure of speech. I was more dumbfounded by him directly comparing Gasol and Duncan and saying Gasol was better to grasp the other nuances.
Don't even need to use KG as an analogy. Let's just assume Tim has Gasol's statistics and the Spurs are #5 seed. The media would've called for Tim's retirement already. Now that Marc Gasol does that, he is in the All-NBA first team!!
Stupidity is not even enough to say.
Now imagine that Tim has Gasol's statistics, the Spurs are the #5 seed, and Bowen in his prime is still on the team. Gasol has Tony Allen playing next to him, who also finished higher in DPOY than Duncan.
Gasol is fresh and exciting! Timmy is old and boring. :-(
Exactly. I have nothing against Gasol. He is a very good player, a rare traditional big man who can post-up for offense instead of shooting 3-pointers. With DH and Stat hobbled, and Chandler and Noah being one dimensional, Gasol is in the talk of one of the best big men.
But he is just not THAT great (DPOY and First Team worthy), and as others mentioned, he may not even be the best big man in this own team.
MG being discussed for first-team is a result of the crystallized old paradigm of NBA positions not fitting how teams play now.
The old paradigm of two guards, two forwards, and a center hasn't existed for years.
Now the real paradigm is a point, two wings, and two posts.
Most of the better post players call themselves "PF," but the taller elite wing players scoop up the "forward" slots on the All-Teams, and you have to get down to the sixth- or seventh-best post player in the league before you find one labeled as a "C," and that's who ends up on the "first team."
Way to run with it man!
You're absolutely right, of course. It's apples and oranges comparing the 2011 Spurs playoff team to this year's squad.
It is getting pretty annoying how EVERYONE has on TD's season. This was an incredible year for anyone, let alone a NBA legend supposedly in the twilight of his career. Disrespected for DPOY, and now this...unbelievable. I hope TD takes these slights, and keeps ting over the bigs in the playoffs this year...
yup I want the Grizz in WCF, revenge.
but it's too early for that talk tbh
Very good player Gasol but Timmy gets my vote. I'm surprised that nobody mentions how poor a rebounder Gasol is for his size, Brook Lopez always get marked down for this reason and they rebound at a similar rate with BL pulling down 6.9 in 30.4 mins and MG 7.8 in 35 mins.
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