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Repeating automatically puts Lebron ahead of jim imho.
Is he Top 10 already at the age of 28 yeard old? He's playing at his absolute prime right now and will probably stay there for 2-3 more years before we'll see some substantial drop in his efficiency. Even at 2 just championships, Lebron's last 6 seasons has been phenomenal. He absolutely destroys every player minus Jordan and Wilt in efficiency but he's a better all around player than both.
So far, assuming the Heat wins this season and truthfully, there is no other team in the East that can take them and the Western opponents does not looking promising, here are some of Lebron's accomplishments in the season.
4 X NBA MVP
2 X NBAF MVP
2 X NBA Champion
4 X NBA Finals Appearance
ROY
2 x ASG MVP
9 X All NBA Teams
5 X All NBA Defensive team
2 X Olympic Gold Medalist
Logged one of the most efficient season in league history (Top 10 in PER) Lebron has averaged a PeR of 30.25 during the last 6 years.
Ranked # 1 in W/S for 5 consecutive seasons.
Career numbers in RS
49% FG 27.6 PER 65% TS
27.6 PPG 6.9 APG 7.3 RPG 1.7 SPG
Career numbers in post season (so far)
47% FG 27.1 PER 56% TS
28.3 PPG 6.7 APG 8.6 RPG 1.7 SPG
I'm not a fan of Lebron but come on, he has to be Top 10 or 9 at this point already, perhaps he can even make a case up to a # 8 spot.
He's already ahead Kobe and possibly Olajuwon in rankings at this point.
Repeating automatically puts Lebron ahead of jim imho.
He's already top 10. If he wins another le and Finals MVP this year, I'd say top 5 with room for argument for higher.
If he's able to get his second FMVP in a row, he's probably no lower than 6th all-time.
Just below duncan
What makes you think there will be a substantial drop at age of 31 or 32?
If he can stay injury free, no reason not to think he can't dominate through his mid thirties.
If he wins the ring this year, while playing at the same level that he has all year, he's top 5-7 on the career list IMO..
Peak-wise, he would be #2 behind Dad Killer and maybe 2000 Shaq, tbh..
Last edited by HarlemHeat37; 05-05-2013 at 03:18 PM.
Top 10 already and will probably retire no less than top 4. Unless he get 5 or 6 rings I don't think anyone will rank him ahead of the goat though.
I speculate he will be #2 all-time at the end of his career. However, at this point I find ranking him quite difficult, as he technically hasn't won his second or repeated yet.
At this moment, he is not top ten all time. In terms of skill and talent, he may be number one right now, but accomplishment wise, he is not top ten with only 1 ring. If he wins the Finals and Finals MVP again this year, then a strong case can be made for his career being top ten. While his stats and MVPs are nice, they would have to be Wilt level for me to consider him as a top ten guy with a 1-2 record in the Finals.
With all that being said, I have little doubt that he will end up top 5 all time when his career is over, with a strong chance of being considered the best to ever play.
below duncan, above kobe
James is easily top 10 right now and easily top 5 if he wins the le this season.
I think he gets 4 or 5 rings. Nobody's beating Miami this year or next (barring an injury which is doubtful). That'll put him at 4. The 5th could be tricky depending on what he, Wade, and bosh do in FA next summer.
He's easily top 10 already, going to be the 2nd greatest player of all time imo when it's all said and done. He'll be pushing MJ for that #1 spot.
Math isn't your strength, tbh..
LOL idk why I thought he won #2 last year. Fail. Brain fart tbh. I still think he wins at least 4 though. Hes' only 28 and Miami looks to be dominant for at least the next couple years.Math isn't your strength, tbh
Agreed the boy has realized his potential 2011 nonwithstanding ...
Still needs more rings though for top 5
LeBron needs 6 rings to pass Kobe
-lg
Great posts by everyone so far.
How does his 2 previous Finals choke comes into equation? I understand the first one shouldn't even in be in the conversation, he was what, 21 y/o at that time? The fact that he even carried that team exceeded everyone's expectations. But the second one? Will people use this against him when comparing him to Jordan? I honestly thought he's the only one player that can dethrone Jordan from that # 1 spot.
I'm the biggest Lebron fan here, but even I'd say that the 2011 Finals will prevent him from surpassing Dad Killer on the all-time list, tbh..
It shouldn't affect him against any other players on the list, though..all the others have similar flaws..
He will dominate but keep in mind his efficiency has been godly the past 6 years. He has reached the 31+ PER plateau 3 times in this time frame alone. His lowest was 27, and this was his first year with Miami where he was playing passive being careful not to step on Wade's toes. We'll most likely see a dip, but that's just an assumption obviously.
Yeah, I agree with this post so much. Sad though, I think Lebron at 6 les should surpass Jordan considering Lebron played in a much compe ive era and he's just a better player overall.
Its hard for me to say that since I was a huge Jordan fan but seriously, I don't think there has been a player as consistent, talented and much more gifted than Lebron and he also has 3 traits that further seperates him from the elite, he's a natural leader, has a strong work ethic and he takes calculated risks. Usually great players would have one or two those three traits. Lebron has them all tbh. Jordan wasn't a natural leader though he has a strong work ethic, Kobe is in the same boat except he doesn't take calculated risks. Johnson had great traits of a being a leader but he wasn;t as consistent or as talented as Lebron. Wilt, don't know about him, he seems to have the physical tools but he never had the accomplishments. Duncan's mirrors Lebron in some ways, but he never dominated in a fashion the way Lebron has.
Nah if he gets even 4 he has a case against everyone except MJ and Kareem ...probably put him over Magic when you factor how dominate he is ..
I wouldn't take LeBron over Magic tbh, just because LeBron's the best monkeyballer ever doesn't make him better than AIDS tbh
Agree no one else has a shot ...
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