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    I thought Jerry Cantrell cut his hair off?

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    I'm not talking about teaching high school students particularly advanced writing styles or expecting them to produce college level academic papers; I'm talking about adjusting high school curricula/requirements so that they introduce or reinforce the basics beyond just reading comprehension.

    Incidentally, I'm not terribly concerned with whether or not a high school kid cares about writing structure. Just as I'm not terribly concerned with whether or not a high school kid cares about learning math and science. Part of high school is sucking it up and learning that will help you throughout life. Even kids who want to pursue a trade after high school instead of going to college should know basic grammar and have writing skills. There's not a single career choice for which it's not beneficial to be able to express yourself without sounding like an idiot.
    It doesn't take 4 years of English to teach basic writing and grammar skills. The stuff they teach in high school english right now in no way helps you in life. There isn't any real world skill that's gained from writing a 5 page analysis about some poem Emily enson wrote while she was having a hot flash.

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    It doesn't take 4 years of English to teach basic writing and grammar skills. The stuff they teach in high school english right now in no way helps you in life. There isn't any real world skill that's gained from writing a 5 page analysis about some poem Emily enson wrote while she was having a hot flash.
    I agree with you that there are massive problems with the way English is currently taught in high school and stated as much in my post.

    I disagree that there's no need for four years of English in high school and that there's no benefit to developing skills in critical thinking and textual analysis. But, that's not terribly shocking; it's already been well established that you and I have different values academically/educationally.

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    High school in Texas is a joke. All you get taught is how to take a state test that basically decides whether or not you graduate and get your diploma. And teachers get bonuses if their little peckers get high scores on those useless state tests.

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    High school in Texas is a joke. All you get taught is how to take a state test that basically decides whether or not you graduate and get your diploma. And teachers get bonuses if their little peckers get high scores on those useless state tests.
    That's the same problem across the country that happened cause of the No Child Left Behind Act. Arizona has the same issue.

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    Wow. You are seriously not all there Avante. I could have a more meaningful debate with a tree. How the are you going to flip the script into a kid disrespecting his mother/father? We are talking about school here.
    Keep in mind that you're trying to have a debate with a fat, senile old cuck....

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    Keep in mind that you're trying to have a debate with a fat, senile old cuck....
    What debate, I told it as it really is, not even debatable.

    Dude, you really do gotta get over me, people are talking.

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    Why not teach kids how to do that will help them in real life? How about teaching kids how to fill out a job application, make a resume, how to interview for a job, etc...? Actual life skills that will help you.

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    I agree with you that there are massive problems with the way English is currently taught in high school and stated as much in my post.

    I disagree that there's no need for four years of English in high school and that there's no benefit to developing skills in critical thinking and textual analysis. But, that's not terribly shocking; it's already been well established that you and I have different values academically/educationally.
    So you agree beating poetry crap into kids' heads is re ed? That alone knocks a year off the English curriculum as for whatever reason they spend a gigantic amount of time analyzing poetry.

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    Why not teach kids how to do that will help them in real life? How about teaching kids how to fill out a job application, make a resume, how to interview for a job, etc...? Actual life skills that will help you.
    Truth bombs, that 's easily more useful than 90% of what's taught in high school after freshman year, tbh...

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    Why not teach kids how to do that will help them in real life? How about teaching kids how to fill out a job application, make a resume, how to interview for a job, etc...? Actual life skills that will help you.
    Bingo!

    Most these kids will not land that big $$$$ job because of math skills. They will end up in some factory/cannery etc. They need to know life skills.

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    So you agree beating poetry crap into kids' heads is re ed?
    That's not what I said. There is as much value in studying poetry as there is studying any other type of literature.

    That alone knocks a year off the English curriculum as for whatever reason they spend a gigantic amount of time analyzing poetry.
    An entire year dedicated to poetry? I find that hard to believe.

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    Getting a job isn't/shouldn't be the only reason for education.

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    Bingo!

    Most these kids will not land that big $$$$ job because of math skills. They will end up in some factory/cannery etc. They need to know life skills.
    Even those factory jobs aren't getting filled because modern day manufacturing jobs require basic skills that HS grads don't have because they're so terrible at math/programming.

    This country's tolerance for people who blow at math is sickening.

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    That's not what I said. There is as much value in studying poetry as there is studying any other type of literature.
    Please, explain to me the value in the time schools spend on Haiku poetry. I'm anxious to hear why it's important to learn about Jap poetry.


    An entire year dedicated to poetry? I find that hard to believe.
    If you combine the time spent on poetry during all 4 years of HS it's easily 1 year.

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    Even those factory jobs aren't getting filled because modern day manufacturing jobs require basic skills that HS grads don't have because they're so terrible at math/programming.

    This country's tolerance for people who blow at math is sickening.
    Maybe if schools could actually teach math, we'd have less people who blow at it.... from what I can tell, math seems to have some of the worst teachers on average.... I maybe had one math teacher ever who didn't outright hate their students, knew how to explain things, and didn't replace actually teaching the material with millions of homework problems and busywork.... it's no wonder that kids hate math and resist learning it when math classes ing suck, tbh...

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    Even those factory jobs aren't getting filled because modern day manufacturing jobs require basic skills that HS grads don't have because they're so terrible at math/programming.

    This country's tolerance for people who blow at math is sickening.
    You ever work in a factory/cannery? Tons of jobs there that don't require math skills other than simple add etc. Sales jobs.

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    Maybe if schools could actually teach math, we'd have less people who blow at it.... from what I can tell, math seems to have some of the worst teachers on average.... I maybe had one math teacher ever who didn't outright hate their students, knew how to explain things, and didn't replace actually teaching the material with millions of homework problems and busywork.... it's no wonder that kids hate math and resist learning it when math classes ing suck, tbh...
    Agreed completely which is why I say a bigger emphasis needs to be placed on it.

    I shouldn't say I hate the fact people blow at math since the result of it is me getting multiple job offers that people who spend 4 years of college studying poetry about Emily enson's bloody tampon's would kill for

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    For the record, I also disagree with DoK that English isn't that important.... writing is a skill just like math/science/etc., perhaps even more important than those skills, tbh.... I actually think it's been de-emphasized too much to the point where English majors pretty much have to double-major in something else to get decent job offers....

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    I'd also say high school math teachers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> high school english teachers

    high school english teachers are some of the most useless people on Earth who are for the most part stupid as .

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    For the record, I also disagree with DoK that English isn't that important.... writing is a skill just like math/science/etc., perhaps even more important than those skills, tbh.... I actually think it's been de-emphasized too much to the point where English majors pretty much have to double-major in something else to get decent job offers....
    English majors have to major in something else because there's no real world application for being able to analyze the literary techniques Emily enson uses to describe her first period.

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    Agreed completely which is why I say a bigger emphasis needs to be placed on it.

    I shouldn't say I hate the fact people blow at math since the result of it is me getting multiple job offers that people who spend 4 years of college studying poetry about Emily enson's bloody tampon's would kill for
    Did you know they stopped forcing students to memorize the multiplication table and want to change pi to just 3

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    How many times does the average person need/use algebra in their life?

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    Did you know they stopped forcing students to memorize the multiplication table and want to change pi to just 3
    No I didn't know that. I also don't get how you can just change what pi is. The area of a circle isn't gonna magically go from 3.14etc*r^2 to 3*r^2 with a mandate that pi is now 3.

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    No I didn't know that. I also don't get how you can just change what pi is. The area of a circle isn't gonna magically go from 3.14etc*r^2 to 3*r^2 with a mandate that pi is now 3.
    That multiplication table i deal with every day, it's like how do you not know what 9x8 is

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