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  1. #26
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    When others forget something and immediately admit they were wrong like you didn't do, I don't act like a prick over it.
    Dude, you're the one who told me I was wrong, with..you re ed...yakyak..all before I had a chance to say anything.

    Look guy, just drop the silly bull , ok?

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    I would, the 49ers and Seahawks are in the division and much better teams overall. The Rams might go 8-8 at best.
    Bingo~!~~~~~~~

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    I can just about guarantee they won't have the same success in division games next year.

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    Yeah, despite their improvement it's really hard to see StL duplicating their divisional success...they will sweep AZ thoug,h and they play Kaepernick better than most do. I see 9-7 realistically--which is no small feat given their compe ion. Just a brutal division.

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    That "over the last two seasons" argument is as intellectually dishonest as it gets. Under Jeff Fisher they were 3-4-1 last year, what they did before Fisher when they were an abortion is irrelevant. They also finished last year 3-1-1 on the road so if last year is any indication they got noticeably better at playing on the road.

    Like I said, they're a team that can be anywhere from 11-5 to 5-11. They went 4-1-1 in divisional play last year, so a scenario where they go 4-2 isn't unrealistic at all.
    I'm glad you were here to post this. Rams from 2007-2011 was the WORST 5 year stretch by any team in NFL history.
    Rams pre-Fisher didn't care if they could win on the road...they were just trying not get blown out week after week.

    My over/under on 2013 would probably be 10-6 or 7-9.

    I think they will challenge the division hard for 2nd place and a wildcard.
    There will be alot of pressure on young Kap and Wilson to get their teams back on top again.

    Not to say that Bradford isn't feeling the pressure too,he'd better be,because the weapons are finally there to him to succeed IMO,and its time he starts making players around him better.
    More importantly this will be his first season playing with the same playbook as the prior year,and that can't be overlooked going into his 4th season now.

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    A liitle recap of Bradford's career:

    2010
    Under OC Pat Shurmur he looks good enough to win ROY,mostly with a smoke & mirrors system, and no weapons. Sacked 34 times,doesn't miss a game.
    QB rating of 76.5

    2011
    Under OC Josh McDaniels(and no QB coach) he looks like with no weapons. Sacked 36 times. Misses 6 games.
    QB rating of 70.5

    2012
    Under OC Brian Shottenheimer he improved in the areas of his deep ball accuracy and learning that its OK to tuck and run with it when his ty receivers cant get open.
    Sacked 35 times,doesn't miss a game.
    QB rating of 82.6

    2013 ?????
    2nd season under OC Shottenheimer and it would appear that there are receivers here now that can get open with speed. C.Givens,J.Cook,T.Austin,S.Bailey...
    OLine upgraded with Jake Long which by default upgrades the RT spot with Saffold flipping over there from LT.
    SJ is gone,but i like the RB by committee approach...it's also a much more explosive backfield now. Bradford will miss SJ's blitz pickup though.

  7. #32
    Re ed is callling yourself....DUNCANownsKOBE...you have any idea how ing re ed that is?

    How many times have I said...."I don't believe in the Bible"....well?
    wow I do not go to chruch,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, what a dumbass

  8. #33
    Seahawks will win the division.... that being said, I agree that Kaepernick's going to be exposed as a massive gimmick.... then the Niners are pretty much ed, because they'll need a real quarterback...
    Kaepernick w ill be exposed fer sure. That pistol is not gonna work next year.

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    Am I the only one who sees the Rams as dark horses this year? Or at least to make the playoffs. Austin will beast it.

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    Yeah, despite their improvement it's really hard to see StL duplicating their divisional success...they will sweep AZ thoug,h and they play Kaepernick better than most do. I see 9-7 realistically--which is no small feat given their compe ion. Just a brutal division.
    Who would have thought that about this division several years ago? They went from a laughing stock of a division, to one of the better ones.

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    lots of top 10 picks can do that

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    Who would have thought that about this division several years ago? They went from a laughing stock of a division, to one of the better ones.
    In addition to the top 10 picks mentioned above, three of the four teams went from Scott Linehan, Jim Mora Jr. and Mike Singletary to Jeff Fisher, Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh respectively. Three significant coaching upgrades all occurring around the same time will do that.

    The Cardinals' success from 2008-2009 basically left them in the dust because they kept their incompetent regime around longer than the other three teams did.

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    I don't trust Carroll or Harbaugh. I don't really trust Jeff Fisher, either, but he isn't really under the same pressure as the other two are. I could definitely see a much worse year record-wise than most do from the West. It would not surprise me at all if the division winner finished with a record of 11-5 and had to play on Wildcard Weekend.

    Even though I think Seattle will probably win the crown, I see them as the more vulnerable of the two. San Francisco has more experience, and that usually helps a team weather a rough patch. I can totally see the Seahawks missing the playoffs entirely if the Rams play well.

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    In addition to the top 10 picks mentioned above, three of the four teams went from Scott Linehan, Jim Mora Jr. and Mike Singletary to Jeff Fisher, Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh respectively. Three significant coaching upgrades all occurring around the same time will do that.

    The Cardinals' success from 2008-2009 basically left them in the dust because they kept their incompetent regime around longer than the other three teams did
    Well yeah that and Warner retired.

    KW's stint in AZ has proven to be the X factor in the small blip on the radar of success for the Cards over their long history of futility. The greatness of Fitz and that defense really had nothing to do with it in hindsight.

    When Warner was booted from St Lou in '03 at least the Rams had Marc the Bulger in place to squeeze out a couple more seasons of good football before the horrific drafting took its toll on an aging team.

    The Cardinals have still been unable to recover at all from Warner's "sudden" retirement...despite a pretty damn good talented team in place just a few years ago. I guess drafting RB's and WR's at the top of the draft instead of OLineman and pass rushers to replace a HOF QB will do that.

    They finally had a smarter draft this year IMO.
    Last edited by mojorizen7; 05-10-2013 at 05:18 AM.

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    Well yeah that and Warner retired.

    KW's stint in AZ has proven to be the X factor in the small blip on the radar of success for the Cards over their long history of futility. The greatness of Fitz and that defense really had nothing to do with it in hindsight.

    When Warner was booted from St Lou in '03 at least the Rams had Marc the Bulger in place to squeeze out a couple more seasons of good football before the horrific drafting took its toll on an aging team.

    The Cardinals have still been unable to recover at all from Warner's "sudden" retirement...despite a pretty damn good talented team in place just a few years ago. I guess drafting RB's and WR's at the top of the draft instead of OLineman and pass rushers to replace a HOF QB will do that.

    They finally had a smarter draft this year IMO.


    Rams need to put to bed if they are moving or not......

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    Brockers,Saffold,Hayes(?) and Long with the background birdie showin some love for Kaepernik.

    Its gonna be a fun season in the NFCW.

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    Screw it, Rams are gonna be my second team this year. Win it all, boys

    Unless you meet the Chargers in the Superbowl, then get curbstomped into non-existence.

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    Niners and Seahawks are both very capable of going 11-5/12-4 the Rams are not.

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    Niners,Seahawks and Rams are very capable of going 11-5/10-6 the Cardinals are not.
    FTFY
    Thats how i see it anyway. I think its very likely that the Niners Hawks and Rams finish 3-3 in the division while AZ goes 0-6.
    Someone between SF and SEA will take a small step back,and the Rams will improve...although i dont see St Lou winning the division tbh.

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    FTFY
    Thats how i see it anyway. I think its very likely that the Niners Hawks and Rams finish 3-3 in the division while AZ goes 0-6.
    Someone between SF and SEA will take a small step back,and the Rams will improve...although i dont see St Lou winning the division tbh.
    There is no doubt the Rams will improve, and 9-7 a very real possibilty. But...there is also no doubt who the class of that division is, the Niners and the Seahawks. Both will win 11/12games.

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