Not once, but TWICE

[Sobe_Kucks]

The Spurs shot 35,5% FG, 25,9% 3PFG and 56% FT.

This is terrible and has nothing to do with the refs

Yup... One more made FT and we win the game. One actual stop by Neal and we win the game, no OT. Should have never been that close at halftime with all their bigs in foul trouble and GS TO's.

[polandprzem]

I blame refs for not being refs.

Can you believe they do have schools and camps to be better refs?

I mean in every game there is they are inconsistent as foooook. Once they call touching foul and the other time a hard foul is not being whistled.
Shame! And then they can interpret how they want it and find rules for it.

[Obstructed_View]

true... but i felt like in this game more than others, it shouldn't have come down to a couple regulation possesions. when they were up 10, if they were playing to capability or atleast close to, they would've had their foot on their throat and taken them out of the game. just a frustrating game because the warriors looked deflated in the first half

Absolutely. Spurs beat themselves with stupidness. Turnovers, not grabbing rebounds, free throws, jumpshots, Gary Neal. Leonard has just been bad. None of those things makes what I said any less true, however.

[tmtcsc]

Wtf is up with the ref bashing. The Spurs were awful today.

[dbreiden83080]

I'm pretty sure the first play was inside 2 minutes, but can't tell, because nobody bothered to credit Duncan with the block so I can't find it in the game log.

Bogut was out of bounds. It's perfectly within the rules for them to check whether or not Bogut was out of bounds, and how much time was on the clock when he was.

Out of bounds was not the call.. TO GS was the call. There are all sorts of stupid rules as to what is reviewable and what is not..

[Obstructed_View]

Out of bounds was not the call.. TO GS was the call. There are all sorts of stupid rules as to what is reviewable and what is not..

I'm aware of what the call was. Are you telling me that the NBA rulebook says that they can only check an out of bounds call if it was called out of bounds on the floor? There's an elasticity rule that gives the refs the la ude to do whatever they can to make sure the game is fair, even if it's not in the rulebook.

[DarrinS]

They at least need to get possession calls correct. There's no need to make mistakes on those.

[tuncaboylu]

STOP ING ING ABOUT THE REFS WHEN YOU SHOOT <40% FG, <30% 3pt, and miss ELEVEN FREE THROWS???!! ARE U KIDDING ME?? STFU AND ACCEPT THE LOSS.

We may play good or we may play bad, it's irrelevant. But the refs ed us. What should I do now? Should I shut up and accept loss because we missed 11 free throws? But what about the our balls given to GSW while it was 82-78 and 84-84? Who will talk about them?

[Hoops Czar]

There were out of bounds plays that were pretty clearly Spurs ball that were called for the Warriors. Both times they should have gone to look at the replay, since they did exactly that for the ball that was off Kawhi's hand in either game 1 or game 2. Pop even asked for the second one. What. The. .

Yep, that's the reason they lost, not piss poor shot selection and late game execution, missed free throws and the inability to get defensive stops. The Spurs got plenty of calls early and often and didn't take advantage of the opportunities. GS is middle of the road defensively and the Spurs continue to shoot pathetic from the field. It's almost criminal to blame the refs for blowing a couple of calls because it had litle impact on the outcome of the game.

[dbreiden83080]

I'm aware of what the call was. Are you telling me that the NBA rulebook says that they can only check an out of bounds call if it was called out of bounds on the floor? There's an elasticity rule that gives the refs the la ude to do whatever they can to make sure the game is fair, even if it's not in the rulebook.

If they made a mistake the league may release a statement tomorrow but it is certainly possible they can't look at it unless they call out of bounds and are checking and by calling a TO they can't look. The rulebook rarely makes sense.. Or they were just sure of the call and didn't want to look.. Either way that is not why we lost the game..

[Obstructed_View]

I didn't read the first page of this thread.

So you don't think the refs should bother getting those calls correct because the Spurs didn't hit their free throws?

[TrainOfThought5]

Yep, that's the reason they lost, not piss poor shot selection and late game execution, missed free throws and the inability to get defensive stops. The Spurs got plenty of calls early and often and didn't take advantage of the opportunities. GS is middle of the road defensively and the Spurs continue to shoot pathetic from the field. It's almost criminal to blame the refs for blowing a couple of calls because it had litle impact on the outcome of the game.

Great teams never let the game be so close to let the refs decide it when they have to opportunity to dominate. we had plenty of chances to put this team AWAY. and we didnt. its that simple.

[Chomag]

Refs Gave the Spurs 11 chances to score, but they failed them all. So...

[Obstructed_View]

Either way that is not why we lost the game..

Agreed with everything but this. So do you think the refs decided that the Spurs didn't hit their free throws, so it wasn't worth checking replay? I've acknowledged the things the Spurs did wrong, but it's not on the referees to decide who deserves to win the game.

[BatManu20]

Blaming this loss on that call is bush. We should've blown these guys out in the first half. Or not had the worst 3rd qtr in the playoffs of any team this year. Or missed 11 FT;s. Or given up almost 20 O-rebounds. Spurs made their bed, now they get to lay in it.

[Magua]

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Refs hurt us badly but we let it get to that point and we lost it in ot

[Hoops Czar]

So you don't think the refs should bother getting those calls correct because the Spurs didn't hit their free throws?

No I didn't read the first page. I just read your post and I'm giving you a big who cares. Spurs had opportunities to put them away early and often and couldn't seal the deal. Nobody said life was fair and you could point to any game in this series or any series for that matter and see a bunch of blown calls. I'm over it and if you want to get real trivial, you might wonder what was going through Ginobili's mind when he took a quick three point shot with 10 seconds left on the shot clock, 16 on the game clock, instead of driving the lane and trying to draw a foul. Some awful late game execution, shot selection and yes, missed free throws cost them the game.

[Obstructed_View]

No I didn't read the first page. I just read your post and I'm giving you a big who cares.

There are twenty other threads where we talk about the the Spurs did wrong. This one concerns those two specific situations. If you don't want to talk about them, then maybe you're in the wrong thread, post .

[Hoops Czar]

Agreed with everything but this. So do you think the refs decided that the Spurs didn't hit their free throws, so it wasn't worth checking replay? I've acknowledged the things the Spurs did wrong, but it's not on the referees to decide who deserves to win the game.

The refs didn't make that decision, the Spurs did.

[Hoops Czar]

There are twenty other threads where we talk about the the Spurs did wrong. This one concerns those two specific situations. If you don't want to talk about them, then maybe you're in the wrong thread, post .

A post is someone who posts about nothing to pad his post count. I still can't understand why this thread was started in the first place. Would you have made this thread if the Spurs had won? We both know the answer to this one.

[TheGoldStandard]

The Spurs lost the game but the Refs were inconsistent in the second half. The biggest problem is lack of rebounding, missed FTs and easy put backs, missed 3's from anyone not named Manu and the biggest one of all GOING SMALL. We played into GS hands in the 2nd half by going small. We had flurries but we couldn't rebound for crap and get put backs. We had them in foul trouble in the 1st half but didn't exploit it.

[jimbo]

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[Obstructed_View]

A post is someone who posts about nothing to pad his post count.

Or someone who posts in a thread repeatedly, while admitting to not reading the posts, while claiming to have no interest in the topic.

Would you have made this thread if the Spurs had won?

Of course I would. If the Spurs had been up by two at the time, they'd have won, and the refs would have given them a chance to tie or take the lead after refusing Pop's request to look at the replay. It's a perfectly valid topic for discussion, and I'm unsure why you're unable to separate the Spurs' poor play from the decision by the crew not to review two out of bounds plays.

[baseline bum]

this is supposed to be a championship team.

what?