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    Other than blowout situations, Gary Neal and Matt Bonner shouldn't see the court for the rest of the playoffs.

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    I wonder if Pop is regretting releasing Jac

    k? He sure would be useful in this series.

    Yes he regrets losing a poor shooting slow wing. No question.

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    I think Boris needs to play more. He's tailor made for this series. We are 2 and 0 when Boris plays 20 minutes. No more Bonner.

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    Yes he regrets losing a poor shooting slow wing. No question.
    If Pop is going to go small, SJax would have been another option. It kills me to see the the closing 5 worn out with so many minutes. Pop has cut 2 of his best 7 players virtually out of the rotation. SJax and Diaw are well suited for the type of game GS plays. If nothing else, he could give Leonard/Green/Manu a 10 minute blow. Also, SJax knows their system and players and since they traded him, might have a little revenge at the back of his mind. And we all know, SJax is clutch - certainly a better option than the defensive sieve, Neal.
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    I don't really see how throwing McGrady out there for a few minutes could be any worse than Neal, tbh..

    There wouldn't be any chemistry, but it's irrelevant at this point, as Neal is currently a massive liability that doesn't provide any positive contributions, tbh..

    His lateral quickness is non-existent, his shot is broken, the Warriors are targeting him..

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    If Pop is going to go small, SJax would have been another option. It kills me to see the the closing 5 worn out with so many minutes. Pop has cut 2 of his best 7 players virtually out of the rotation. SJax and Diaw are well suited for the type of game GS plays. Also, SJax knows their system and players.

    And didn't Jack hit like 60% of his 3's in last years' playoffs?

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    Here are a few things that I feel needs to be done differently in game 5 in order for the Spurs to win. They are in no particular order but I believe they are all instrumental in getting the much needed win on tuesday.

    1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6.
    great post

    The most disappointing this about todays game is the missed opportunities. We lost this game, GS battled back but it's as if we served it up on a silver platter.. I blame Pop for the small ball crap, we had there bigs in foul trouble and we didn't exploit it. Boris Diaw needs to be coached up, wide open 3's and he dribbles into more difficult shots and then they don't try to post him in the block.

    There was lack of ball movement today, sure Parker was banged up but attack and kick and get open shots

    Way too much Neal on the court, the size game killed with small ball but effectively we didn't have offense on the court. We were settling for jump shots and that took us out of the game in the 2nd half. We couldn't rebound with no size and no blocking out.
    The words exploit and pop don't go together. I have said it a thousand times, Pop runs a system. That is it and that is all. Regardless of the line up (small ball/big ball). And playing small ball, guys are out of position defensively because they are playing out of position, which makes it tough to grab rebounds.

    On offense, he doesn't take advantages of mismatches. How he lets them get away with jack and curry in the backcourt without putting their asses on the block is mind boggling. As soon as Neal got in, they started posting him up with Barnes over and over until the spurs stopped it which they never did.

    Pop didn't even go after curry after he rolled his ankle in game 3. Not one time did he try to go at him. Instead he let him rest in the corner on defense. Its like he has this "that wouldnt be fair" mentality. In this game, he should've played green on him early this game to ruffle his feathers and crush any hope of him contributing in this game. Instead he starts Parker on him and he drains threes early. Then to start the second half, instead of going for the jugular with green on curry, again with Parker on him, he hits 3s and cuts an 8 pt lead to two in under a minute.


    Just crab the fking defensive rebound
    See above...

    Neal causes everyone on defense to be out of position to make up for his always getting burned. I love neal, but If he ain't hitting shots, get his ass out of the game.
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    I don't really see how throwing McGrady out there for a few minutes could be any worse than Neal, tbh..

    There wouldn't be any chemistry, but it's irrelevant at this point, as Neal is currently a massive liability that doesn't provide any positive contributions, tbh..

    His lateral quickness is non-existent, his shot is broken, the Warriors are targeting him..
    Indeed. As soon as a player on the Warriors team sees Neal in front of him he immediately goes at him with no intention of passing. Just as he recognized that small ball was failing in game 2, Pop has got to recognize that Neal is no longer useful. Throw T-Mac out there or give more minutes to Joseph. Either option at this point is better than playing Neal.

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    The difference has been so ing obvious when we go big and make them adjust to us. I think Splitter is coming around. I'd say rest the starters a little more in the first half so their fresh in the 4th. They have figured out curry and thompson. barnes shooting 9-26 will not beat us. Gotta think we hold em to 84 pts in regulation 9 time out of 10 we win going away. ing Pop outsmarting himself again. Go big be the bully.

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    I repeat:

    forecourt: TD, TS, BD, at least 2 on the court at all times. 96 minutes/3 = 32 minutes each

    backcourt: TP, DG, KL, CJ, MG, no more than 3 on the court at any time. 144/5 = 29 minutes each

    no Neal, no Bonner

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    I'm still worried Pop might overreact and change up the rotations, especially defensively.

    I was hoping when I didn't see CJ the rest of the 1st half after he picked up his 2nd or 3rd foul that Pop was just saving him for 2nd half because we would need him to guard Jack and give TP rest, that never happened.

    Another instance, TP for some reason was guarding Curry too many times at the end of the 4th and some of OT.

    Pop needs to give CJ and Diaw/Splitter solid minutes to give TP and TD some rest throughout the game.

    Just work on your offensive execution in practice.

    Please don't let "you know who" ref Game 5.

    Oh and play that game where if one teammate misses a FT, the whole team runs sprints.
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    Kawhi needs to go back to Jordan's for the rest of the series; hasn't worn them at all for Round 2

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    neal has to step up and make shots, also if barnes outplays kawhi we have a problem, our bench hasnt been that great in this series other than manu, perhaps tmac can help a bit?


    NOOoooo

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    If Pop plays Bonner and Neal extended minutes you know he definitely overreacted. Usually "we just need make some shots" is a cliche that covers up other problems; but in this case that is the issue; we have them figured out defensively.

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    neal has to step up and make shots, also if barnes outplays kawhi we have a problem, our bench hasnt been that great in this series other than manu, perhaps tmac can help a bit? spurs really miss stak5 because when we went small we had him with kawhi, now that there is no stak5, unless pop plays tmac, small ball doesnt work for us

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    Also as much as I want to see TMac play, even that would be an overreaction at this point.

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    Eric Messersmith @eric1250espn
    Spurs most used lineup this series of Parker, Green, Manu, Leonard, and Duncan is -21 in 29 mins together. lineup shooting 29% and 3-17 3's



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    Eric Messersmith @eric1250espn
    Spurs most used lineup this series of Parker, Green, Manu, Leonard, and Duncan is -21 in 29 mins together. lineup shooting 29% and 3-17 3's


    All the more reason to end the small-ball experiment.

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    Maybe Pop should use Diaw in the SF spot if they want to go small and then keep one of Tiago and Duncan in.

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    Maybe Pop should use Diaw in the SF spot if they want to go small and then keep one of Tiago and Duncan in.
    Might work. But has this ever happened? It seems that if Diaw and Leonard would share the court together, Diaw would be the PF and Leonard would play the SF position.

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    Well he used Diaw at SF spot when Kawhi and SJAX were injured earlier in the season.

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    All the more reason to end the small-ball experiment.
    But who to sit in that lineup? that's the dilemma, you need Green to cover Steph and KL on Thompson and Pops not going to sit Manu

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    Why not small ball but sub Splitter for Duncan? Splitter is not fatigued,.Duncan gets rest, and splitter thrives off pick and rolls that Parker and Manu set.

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    Might work. But has this ever happened? It seems that if Diaw and Leonard would share the court together, Diaw would be the PF and Leonard would play the SF position.
    There was a thread about it

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...3g#post6206367

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    Go big, dont be afraid of mid range jump shots. Cut out three points, put two legit bigs in 2nd line of defense, and let them shot in between those lines. Bogut is non factor, Duncan or Splitters should be free for help defense.

    Then on offense use this size. Put Duncan on the block, run pick and rolls with Splitter. Add highly talented Diaw to the mix. These should free corners shooters, help fight on boards and dominate pace of the game. Start playing like the team, which is running the show.

    Worst mismatched will be created by Green/Barnes on PF for Golden State. Those guys cant hurt us, from deep, from mid range. Put Diaw/Splitter on them and sag off. Thompson, Curry and Jack will still have suitable defenders in Green, Parker, Manu/Leonard whatever.

    And do something to unleash one of role guys to help, to contribute decent shooting, 10-15 pts of the bench. Neal, Diaw, Leonard, Green, Splitter whoever. Old guys cant run this by themselves.

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