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Beats thinking.
It's all VWRC all the time, CC. Duh.
Beats thinking.
Industrialization of third world countries with stable governments, cheap transportation costs...........
global economy
gfy
band width. If your job can be done at a desk it can be done anywhere in the world.
Since I work European hours (5AM-2PM) and support European repair depots, I make out like a bandit on US holidays - holiday pay is normal + overtime. If that disappeared I would be pretty disappointed.
Other rich countries have access to computers and automation. How do you explain the fact that the income inequality in America has grown faster and is the highest in the advanced industrialized world?
Gini Index since WWII. Of industrialized nations the US and the UK seem to be on a similar path since ~1980. They must have been the only two countries with access to technology and automation.
Last edited by Th'Pusher; 05-15-2013 at 07:24 PM.
Thanks. Good info. I had not read the bill before responding. Still could be problematic for employees. Boss: I've got 25 hours of overtime available this week. Those interested in time and a half, need not apply...Every once in a while it pays to actually follow a link and read a little.
So, in summary:
1. It's still time and a half
2. Requires mutual agreement of employee and employer before the work takes place
3. 160 hour cap
4. Company and employee have to square up on unused comp time, in cash, every year
I think those conditions pretty much remove any reason to have a problem with this bill.
I hadn't read it either. That wasn't a shot at you.
Certainly if an employer thinks one way gives them some kind of advantage over another they'll choose that route over the other. I don't really see how that's a problem though since when it comes to OT an employer is going to be looking for the guys with the lowest hourly rate long before they worry about whether or not that person wants to be paid in comp time or not.Still could be problematic for employees. Boss: I've got 25 hours of overtime available this week. Those interested in time and a half, need not apply...
I'm not anyone's boss, but I am a project manager and have say over how OT hours on my projects get handed out. All I give a crap about when giving out OT is who gives me the best production for the least money. Comp time would still be billed to my project at 1.5 x hours worked, so it makes no difference to me whether or not those 25 hours would be paid out immediately or at some point down the road.
Last edited by coyotes_geek; 05-15-2013 at 08:54 PM.
Any employment bill from the party
that blocks all raises of the federal minimum wage,
that wants to kill minimum wage,
that wants to kill child labor laws has to be good for employers,
removed OT from 100Ks workers by calling them mgmt not hourly,
that has busted, is busting unions (teachers, USPS, right-to-work-(for-less) laws ),
has to be, will be shown to be good for employers and bad for employees.
You people seem to assume there's some kind of love fest and respect between employers and low-wage employees, esp poor single mothers. WRONG assumption.
Nope.
Free trade, and "conservative" values that taxes capital at lower rates than labor.
Which is why employers push things like this.
We have gotten rid of corrupt unions, and gained corrupt corporations.
Not all. Not even most.
The problem is what do you do with those that ARE?
Very true. This occurred to me, but I din't hav ehte time to type it out.
One of the great ironies of American history is that attempts to protect the political power of unions are what unleashed corporations from the restrictions on their political power that persisted into the 1970's. Those attempts created the Political Action Committee.
Now the genie will never get back in that bottle. Rank-and-file Republicans today think that corporate purchase of the government is sancrosanct free speech chiseled into the bedrock of the Cons ution by the Founding Fathers. Coupled with the anti-intellectualism of the lower-class white nationalist Right, the conservative entertainment complex has little difficulty supplanting history with a highly flexible mythology of the nation's founding wherein George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Ben Franklin believed whatever today's corporate special interests need them to have believed at a given time. If needed, Antonin Scalia can swoop in and rubber-stamp the corporate position as "originalist."
This is pretty damn accurate and well said.
iow: the VRWC has ed America into un able-ness.
What gets me is why do you authoritarians wish to remove options I may wish to use?
Last week, Republicans in the House passed a bill that eliminates overtime pay for private sector employees in what is a continuing GOP assault in their war on working Americans. Eric Cantor sponsored and heavily promoted the bill as a family friendly measure to “help” working mothers spend more time with their families, but the reality is it puts employees at the mercy of employers who are fed up with paying overtime wages for workers who put in more than 8 hours a day and 40 hours a week at their jobs.
The way Cantor promotes the bill is promising that when an employee works overtime, instead of higher wages, they can take “time off” at a later date to spend time with their families, but he never reveals that there is no guarantee the employer has to give “flex time” off, ever, because the decision of when an employee takes their “flex time” remains solely under purview of the employer who decides when a worker can use their comp time, if at all.
The bill effectively eliminates overtime pay and puts the employee at the mercy of predatory employers who can withhold “flex time” indefinitely, including when they terminate the worker meaning they worked overtime for free.
The law is also another Republican attempt to kill new jobs because without the incentives inherent in the FLSA overtime rule, employers have no reason to hire new employees to avoid paying overtime because if they have free rein to work employees 16 hours a day for minimum wage, they will not bring in new workers to save payroll expense on overtime pay; until they fire the employ to avoid giving them the time off they earned. Americans already work more hours and are more productive than any other industrialized country, and giving employers protection to reduce paychecks is a real threat because they can claim giving employees earned comp time will “unduly disrupt the operations of the employer.”
Regardless what Cantor says, his bill is meant to force Americans to work more for less pay and it is another Republican gift to the business community regardless the damage to American workers and the economy.
www.politicususa.com/house-republican-attack-overtime-pay-designed-kill-jobs.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&ut m_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+(Politicus+ USA+)
This for you assholes who give any benefit of the doubt that the Repugs could pass a bill that benefits the 99%.
Pretty clear that neither policsusa.com nor boutons bothered to read the bill.
lol boutons
Why do you wish to ins ute a new way for employers to cheat their workers?
Personally I don't object to it, per se, it just seems like exactly the kind of thing that sounds good in theory, but doesn't work well in practice. Kind of like communism and libertarianism.
Pretty clear that you believe the Repugs would do anything for the 99%.
Pretty clear that you have no idea how ty work life can be, and often is, for low-end, desperate, intimidated, working-poor hourly employees.
Go read the bill and see how many outright lies in that garbage of a story you posted you can find.
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