Will Manu ever learn?

[hater]

Yup no And - 1s with those fouls. You know what do get called with those fouls though? Take one guess.

You seriously going to tell me if Tony Allen had not acted like that it would have been a flagrant? Seriously? When is the last time someone sold a flagrant like that? take one guess.

[Darius McCrary]

Manu is like a bean sprout, just trying to grow and thrive....he didn't know any better..

[timvp]

Tbh, that's a flagrant foul 100% of the time during the regular season. The only reason why it maybe shouldn't have been a flagrant is because it was the playoffs.

And Allen's drama queening was so bad that it actually hurt his flagrant foul case. If he just lays there, it would have looked more like a flagrant foul

[Obstructed_View]

Matt Bonner in the game with under a minute left, and it's Manu's fault.

[SA210]

MiG thinks Manu's to blame for 2006 when Rasho and Nazr were benched for the entire ing series and he'd just hit a three to put the Spurs ahead. Reference to "will he ever learn" about two fouls that are seven years apart.

at the Manu pile on this whole Playoffs. #20 will shut the doubters up.

[lefty]

Mannydempsey getting bombarbed in this thread

[Capt Bringdown]

Always a story to tell, always someone else's fault with these Manu fanbois.
It was a irredeemably moronic play.

[SpurSpurSpurs]

Every Manu haters posted here should GTFO of this forum. We expect a hard foul during Conference finals game... and Manu delivered. It was the right thing to do until an actor named Tony Allen performed on the court and the refs applauded. that call! every hater that thinks that was not a good foul to give!

[hater]

oh yeah and Matt BOnner's foul on Latarian was 10x more stupid

[2centsworth]

Tbh, that's a flagrant foul 100% of the time during the regular season. The only reason why it maybe shouldn't have been a flagrant is because it was the playoffs.

And Allen's drama queening was so bad that it actually hurt his flagrant foul case. If he just lays there, it would have looked more like a flagrant foul

right, that's why the league routinely upgrades fouls after the fact.

[hater]

we just won a great game and spursfan pissed

imagine if Duncan had not saved us in OT

[therealtruth]

Tbh, that flagrant foul call was karma for the third foul on Conley where he didn't touch Neal. The refs always make up for bad calls. I was wondering how they were going to do that.

[roycrikside]

It was a bad foul by Manu. If you're Manu, you're options are:

1. Let him lay it in

2. Wrap him up -- which at most allows an and-1.

3. Foul him hard where you don't risk the and-1 but you risk a flagrant.

The Spurs were up four so either of the first two options were far superior. The third option is the only one that can end up tying the game.

I mean, obviously Allen flopped ... but you pull someone down with force out of the air and they land awkwardly ... that's going to be called a flagrant a lot of the time.

This wasn't Dirk 2006 dumb but it was pretty far up there on the bad decision scale. Rewinding further, the one thing he couldn't do in that possession was turn the ball over to give the Grizzlies a fast break -- anything else and the game doesn't go to overtime.....

That was Bonner's fault, not Manu's. He was ing around on the possession, doing nothing and then hot-potatoed the ball to Manu with like 2 seconds on the shot clock 35 feet from the basket like "Here, do something."

[ShoogarBear]

Every Manu haters posted here should GTFO of this forum.

[tuncaboylu]

If Spurs weren't up 4 but 2, refs were not going to give it a flagrant.

They want a close game, a game winner, a buzzer beater or an OT at worst.

It's all related with:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...01#post6582801
(BREAKING NEWS: NBA Has Lowest Rated Conference Final Opener Since 2007 in Spurs/Grizz)

[hater]

Tbh, that's a flagrant foul 100% of the time during the regular season.

no it's not

[therealtruth]

It was a bad foul by Manu. If you're Manu, you're options are:

1. Let him lay it in

2. Wrap him up -- which at most allows an and-1.

3. Foul him hard where you don't risk the and-1 but you risk a flagrant.

The Spurs were up four so either of the first two options were far superior. The third option is the only one that can end up tying the game.

I mean, obviously Allen flopped ... but you pull someone down with force out of the air and they land awkwardly ... that's going to be called a flagrant a lot of the time.

This wasn't Dirk 2006 dumb but it was pretty far up there on the bad decision scale. Rewinding further, the one thing he couldn't do in that possession was turn the ball over to give the Grizzlies a fast break -- anything else and the game doesn't go to overtime.....

The obvious option would have been for Green to have pinned the ball to the backboard if Pop had kept him in the game.

[2centsworth]

That was Bonner's fault, not Manu's. He was ing around on the possession, doing nothing and then hot-potatoed the ball to Manu with like 2 seconds on the shot clock 35 feet from the basket like "Here, do something."

totally. Hindsight he should of just held the ball and turned it over out of bounds lol

[DAF86]

It was a bad foul by Manu. If you're Manu, you're options are:

1. Let him lay it in

2. Wrap him up -- which at most allows an and-1.

3. Foul him hard where you don't risk the and-1 but you risk a flagrant.

The Spurs were up four so either of the first two options were far superior. The third option is the only one that can end up tying the game.

I mean, obviously Allen flopped ... but you pull someone down with force out of the air and they land awkwardly ... that's going to be called a flagrant a lot of the time.

This wasn't Dirk 2006 dumb but it was pretty far up there on the bad decision scale. Rewinding further, the one thing he couldn't do in that possession was turn the ball over to give the Grizzlies a fast break -- anything else and the game doesn't go to overtime.....

That's nice and all with a nice cool head and time to think about it but on that moment all I remember thinking was "foul him and don't let him get an and-1", that's what Manu did.

[Obstructed_View]

Tbh, that flagrant foul call was karma for the third foul on Conley where he didn't touch Neal. The refs always make up for bad calls. I was wondering how they were going to do that.

You mean the first 11 minutes of the 4th quarter weren't enough make-up to satisfy you?

[TheGoldStandard]

NBA will play damage control and Stern will call it a fair call.... Yup, no fine for Tony Allen I bet. Spurs played a lot of ISO ball but when they used pick n roll and attacked and dished they were successful. Refs tried to even the series up to legitimize all the love for Memphis and there "great defense"

[SA210]

You know Manu's foul was legit when Hater is defending him tbh. Stupid thread.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

If baldspot had let him score nobody would be calling it a bad play after the game win or lose

[slick'81]

Horrible call !!if u want to get on manU
for the late turnover fine but the flagrant call was awful

[DAF86]

Tim just said in the press conference that Manu did the right thing and I don't think he was saying it just to not throw Manu on the fire.