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  1. #276
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    do you know what it means when i said "yet....he won't clean his own house?"
    No, and I'm not afraid to say I don't, after all I can take school lessons once in awhile. Next time, be more specific, I thought you compared "house to "church" or that you meant he needed to clean what its thought to be the corruption of church.

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    very good. it is his church.

    i'd like to hear what you mean by "thought to be corruption of church"

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    just say it. they know.

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    We all know church is money driven, that's not new, but the practices that religion makes are not imaginary, I do hate how they ask for money whenever I go, they don't say "If you want to make a donation please do so, but its not mandatory, instead they tell you, at least catholic priests, "Don't forget to make a donation, we'll be passing the casket around very soon. Religion was never about money, but nowadays is all about money.

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    Of course you quote him, I'm assuming your both non-believers when it comes to religion, that's good. I'm guessing your both content with dying and never waking up again? That's good again, just don't try and bash people with actual beliefs, have an open mind.

    Being satisfied with something has no bearing on whether it is true or not.

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    We all know church is money driven, that's not new, but the practices that religion makes are not imaginary, I do hate how they ask for money whenever I go, they don't say "If you want to make a donation please do so, but its not mandatory, instead they tell you, at least catholic priests, "Don't forget to make a donation, we'll be passing the casket around very soon. Religion was never about money, but nowadays is all about money.
    looks like your uncle is conveniently not telling you something.

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    Yes. Depending on how you define success.
    Success as a person I see it, is not about telling your rich friends how well your company is, its being content with what you have, never asking why you don't have more, but that's just me. You might see that as a weakness, or anyone whose successful in will say that, but I don't.

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    Success as a person I see it, is not about telling your rich friends how well your company is, its being content with what you have, never asking why you don't have more, but that's just me. You might see that as a weakness, or anyone whose successful in will say that, but I don't.
    That's not success as I see it either. You are assuming that everyone has the same, limited view of success that you do.

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    looks like your uncle is conveniently not telling you something.
    Well wouldn't you say that applies to everyone? Church is a building, just a plain ol' brick building or whatever your church is made out of, but beliefs are not, I'm talking about real beliefs, not the beliefs in money..

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    Well wouldn't you say that applies to everyone? Church is a building, just a plain ol' brick building or whatever your church is made out of, but beliefs are not, I'm talking about real beliefs, not the beliefs in money..
    what is it that your uncle isn't telling you? take a guess.

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    That's not success as I see it either. You are assuming that everyone has the same, limited view of success that you do.
    Lets just say I don't see money as the high priority, while I don't live a high successful life I don't live a bad one either, I'm talking about people with actual morals, not the ones who take advantage of others, that to me is a pretty successful life, you know the ones who still have morals...

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    Lets just say I don't see money as the high priority, while I don't live a high successful life I don't live a bad one either, I'm talking about people with actual morals, not the ones who take advantage of others, that to me is a pretty successful life.
    your getting warm. please expand about actual morals.

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    what is it that your uncle isn't telling you? take a guess.
    That he's heavily involved in church therefore making him a corrupted person himself? I'm probably off base, but tell me please.

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    That he's heavily involved in church therefore making him a corrupted person himself? I'm probably off base, but tell me please.
    ask your uncle about morals and the catholic church.

    take him to task.

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    Pretty much, we just want to be assured we're going somewhere after this after life, that in my opinion is when religion was created, sadly I've never seen anything in my life that makes me believe there's some divine figures out there.

    Have you ever experienced something that you cannot explain?
    damn woo woo, you've been emotionally invested in the topic of religion for over a week, two weeks. we get it, u think its bull . why do you insist on talking about something you don't believe in. how does someones thoughts and prayers affect you personally? you come off as very bitter and scornful. did a priest take advantage of you? were you a believer at one time and god didn't answer your prayers on time?

    i hope whatever happened to you, you seek help for it. this anger you have towards a god you don't believe in is unhealthy.

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    your getting warm. please expand about actual morals.
    Morals as in not scamming people with money, which people who are heavily involved in church are known to forget about such stuff, is that it?

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    damn woo woo, you've been emotionally invested in the topic of religion for over a week, two weeks. we get it, u think its bull . why do you insist on talking about something you don't believe in. how does someones thoughts and prayers affect you personally? you come off as very bitter and scornful. did a priest take advantage of you? were you a believer at one time and god didn't answer your prayers on time?

    i hope whatever happened to you, you seek help for it. this anger you have towards a god you don't believe in is unhealthy.
    Look at that house negro defend the white man's religion.

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    nice troll job.

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    damn woo woo, you've been emotionally invested in the topic of religion for over a week, two weeks. we get it, u think its bull . why do you insist on talking about something you don't believe in. how does someones thoughts and prayers affect you personally? you come off as very bitter and scornful. did a priest take advantage of you? were you a believer at one time and god didn't answer your prayers on time?

    i hope whatever happened to you, you seek help for it. this anger you have towards a god you don't believe in is unhealthy.
    I don't have anger Trill, more like uncertainty. I believe there's something out there, but until we kick the leg I think it's pretty safe to say we should put all of this "is religion real" "are non-believers right?" to rest, I'm a semi catholic Trill, it's not like I'm in no mans land.

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    meant to quote woo boo, sorry bout that.

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    Who? seeing that me and you were the only ones engaging back and forth, just because I couldn't guess what you meant does not make me a troll, can you please be a little more specific?

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    meant to quote woo boo, sorry bout that.
    No problem bro, I was like what, I've only been responding to this topic for a day.

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    Who? seeing that me and you were the only ones engaging back and forth, just because I couldn't guess what you meant does not make me a troll, can you please be a little more specific?
    you were talking about morals and the catholic church. I'm not going to say it.

    i want to hear a catholic say it.

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    Look at that house negro defend the white man's religion.
    and look at the emo mulatto wasting keystrokes on a god he doesn't believe in. your anger is transparent, doggie. you're bitter for a reason. if you were a victim of a pedo priest, you need to get help. getting mad at strangers who pray in the privacy of their homes is not a good look.

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    Lets just say I don't see money as the high priority, while I don't live a high successful life I don't live a bad one either, I'm talking about people with actual morals, not the ones who take advantage of others, that to me is a pretty successful life, you know the ones who still have morals...
    Are you really going to stand by the assertion that one cannot live a "moral" life without religion?

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