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This is not supporting your argument of overcompensation of teachers, dumbass. Try again.
LOL...
My God... You are so stupid to read things into what someone does not say!
How many times do I own you libards that way?
I said...
The ATPE would disagree with you.
I did not say the ATPE negotiated the wages...
This is not supporting your argument of overcompensation of teachers, dumbass. Try again.
you, coward. I know exactly what you said. So do you.
Run away from it again.
and lo ing l at liberal.
OK, I'll take that bake.
I needed to go farther than this from the ATPE site:
It goes on to say teachers in Texas do not collectively bargain.Collective bargaining is a process by which management and labor (school boards and educators) negotiate to reach an agreement on working conditions such as salaries, hours and benefits.
I stand corrected on this one, except, I found my own mistake.
You didn't!
However, please consider that when you said i was wrong, I went and checked.
How many times to you check on the possibility you are wrong? Seems like a big fat zero!
But go ahead. Show me how teachers are overcompensated.
no dumb . RG and I called you on that already. Even when you're wrong, you're wrong. That's quite an accomplishment.
You love that information overload.
Too bad you are incompetent to link the source link with a small quote to support your contention.
Here you go, idiot. It only took 5 seconds of reading.
"• For each analysis, students taught by teachers in the same grade-level team in the same school did worse in years where turnover rates were higher, compared with years in which there was less teacher turnover.
• An increase in teacher turnover by 1 standard deviation corresponded with a decrease in math achievement of 2 percent of a standard deviation; students in grade levels with 100 percent turnover were especially affected, with lower test scores by anywhere from 6 percent to 10 percent of a standard deviation based on the content area.
• The effects were seen in both large and small schools, new and old ones.
• The negative effect of turnover on student achievement was larger in schools with more low-achieving and black students.
"Turnover must have an impact beyond simply whether incoming teachers are better than those they replaced—even the teachers outside of this redistribution are somehow harmed by it," the authors conclude. "Though there may be cases where turnover is actually helpful to student achievement, on average, it is harmful.":"
LOL...
Looks like correlation equals implies causation to me...
What is relevant that i didn't read?
Are you too incompetent to actually read a link?
Read it again, idiot.
notice they controlled for size, student makeup. The only thing in doubt at the time of the study were the actual drivers. "The authors call for more research to identify the mechanics of the decline—whether a loss of collegiality, or perhaps a loss of ins utional knowledge among the staff due to turnover, is the cause of the lower achievement."
This is not correlation. I can tell you don't have a clue what that means either.
I will ask this.
Could the cause for the turnover rate also be the cause for the student scoring, rather than the turnover rate?
Are you suggesting that the same factor that has a negative effect on teachers, causing high turnover rates, does not by itself, affect the students?
That's exactly what the study says.
The actual study.
http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/teach...ot%20blind.pdf
ing read it.
LOL... OK, I'll entertain this for a moment.
How is higher wages going to stop mobility, where the majority of the turnover rate is changing location of teaching? Is it going to stop retirement where (I think I read) ~25% of the turnover rate is because of retirements? According to the US Department of Education, teachers who leave the profession during their first three years is about 8.5%... Just how much money will it take to half that number?
LOL...
41 pages...
I seem to remember saying "information overload."
You know I am not going to waste that much of my time having fun at your expense.... Right?
Is that why you didn't quote any relevant pints in it, so you can have a false win?
You ask me for a link and post up a wish sandwich? You're ing hilarious.
I already have posted relevant points. You continue to ignore them. Shocking. Not.
I'm sorry, WC, but quality data analysis isn't found in coloring books.
Now, make the case for teachers being incompetent, over compensated and stupid. Go ahead. We're all waiting.
I already did. Sorry that you didn't understand. Is it because you are a teacher?
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