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    Off twitter:

    "Not to look too far ahead, but Memphis was No. 17 defending P/R ballhandlers. Miami? No. 1. Against roll man, too. Huge part of Spurs O." - Dan McCarney @danmccarneysaen


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    By contrast Coach Nick points out that the pick and roll with Hibert has been the most successful play for the Pacers against the Heat. Timmy can do anything Roy can, I think.... They may be vulnerable.

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    One key to beating Miami re: pick and roll

    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/5/2...-pick-and-roll

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    heat series is not for bonner .................... blair is needed ................ playblair...................

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    Difference is that the Heat play in the D-league eastern conference. Easy to put up great stats.

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    More Duncan in the post against Bosh

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    heat series is not for bonner .................... blair is needed ................ playblair...................


    Tbh, neither will probably be very useful in this series. I foresee a lot of small-ball...

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    Heat relies on athleticism over defensive fundamentals. That works against most teams, but Spurs ball movement should kill them.

    A horrible Pacers offence has scored 96+ on them 3 games in a row. I'm not worried about scoring, I'm worried about stopping them the other end.

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    This stat takes into account PnR D against Leastern Conference teams, so it's meaningless without isolating how they played the PnR against the West.

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    Miami was 25-5 against the West this year, they all over the conference, tbh..

    The Heat have 2 very solid pick&roll defenders in Bosh and Anderson, and they have Lebron/Chalmers/Cole/Wade to guard/swarm pick&roll ball-handlers..Parker and Ginobili are going to have trouble scoring against the Heat, it'll be up to Duncan/Splitter and the shooters to punish them..

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    Miami was 25-5 against the West this year, they all over the conference, tbh..

    The Heat have 2 very solid pick&roll defenders in Bosh and Anderson, and they have Lebron/Chalmers/Cole/Wade to guard/swarm pick&roll ball-handlers..Parker and Ginobili are going to have trouble scoring against the Heat, it'll be up to Duncan/Splitter and the shooters to punish them..
    We're not just talking wins and losses though. We're talking how they played the PnR and there are much better PnR teams in the West than in the East. Were those games they won high scoring affairs? Were most of them blowouts? And of course, none of the games they played against us really count because key players didn't play in either one.

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    Heat relies on athleticism over defensive fundamentals. That works against most teams, but Spurs ball movement should kill them.

    A horrible Pacers offence has scored 96+ on them 3 games in a row. I'm not worried about scoring, I'm worried about stopping them the other end.
    Tbh that's what the Mavs did in '11 to win. Just keep moving the ball to move the defense. They will get tired over a 7 game series.

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    the heat are good at trapping ball handlers but they always leave the roll-man open as they always double team. as long as parker can make the pass in to splitter/duncan and not get trapped, our PnR will be effective

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    Ball movement is key. When the offense is firing on all cylinders, these Spurs can't be defended. Green and Leonard are going to have to make outside shots, or their opponent will have no reason to respect the perimeter - same as the series we just watched. If it's the Heat, they're going to throw all the athleticism in the world at Parker. Ginobili is also going to have to channel his 2005 self, the Spurs sorely need his playmaking.

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    If Parker starts playing well, they'll put Lebron on him and we'll be screwed tbh. Take away Parker, take away the Spurs offense. Gotta try and find a way to combat it. Just don't see how tbh. Duncan in the post will only work so much. Ginobili is not the Ginobili of the past. He's not going to give you 20 and 6 anymore. So I really don't know how they're going to try and adjust to that.

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    If Parker starts playing well, they'll put Lebron on him and we'll be screwed tbh. Take away Parker, take away the Spurs offense.
    Honestly, this is something I'm not worried about at all. I'd rather Lebron on Parker if it means he'll be chasing Parker through 5 screens every possession, it'll tire him out down the offensive end.

    The Heat won't let Parker turn the corner on the pick and roll by aggressively doubling him, which means he won't be able to easily get in to the lane. Parker won't be a major scoring factor against the Heat, it'll be our bigs on mismatches from the pick and roll and our shooters.

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    If Parker starts playing well, they'll put Lebron on him and we'll be screwed tbh. Take away Parker, take away the Spurs offense. Gotta try and find a way to combat it. Just don't see how tbh. Duncan in the post will only work so much. Ginobili is not the Ginobili of the past. He's not going to give you 20 and 6 anymore. So I really don't know how they're going to try and adjust to that.
    Lebron's a good iso defender, but I don't think he's going to be able to defend the Loop any better than Thompson or Conley/Allen did. He obviously can't just knock down the screener, so his size/speed combination isn't really that big of an issue.

    If the Heat put James on Parker, the Spurs should excel in the cross-match. James will also be pretty worn out. He's the best player in the league, but he's not the best conditioned.

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    Honestly, this is something I'm not worried about at all. I'd rather Lebron on Parker if it means he'll be chasing Parker through 5 screens every possession, it'll tire him out down the offensive end.

    The Heat won't let Parker turn the corner on the pick and roll by aggressively doubling him, which means he won't be able to easily get in to the lane. Parker won't be a major scoring factor against the Heat, it'll be our bigs on mismatches from the pick and roll and our shooters.
    Exactly. Lebron's a really good defender, but he gets overhyped a lot on that end. His too big to post up and his too quick to take off the dribble, but he's not that great at stopping players off screens. Even if the Heat stop Parker from penetrating, they won't stop the Loop. If James has to run into Duncan and Splitter every play, I think we'll see him switch off Parker pretty quickly. James on Green and Leonard is a huge victory for the Spurs, as the best he can do is help off them and give them open shots. If they're hitting their threes, James has to stay on them, and he may as well be any defender then.

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    If the Heat put James on Parker, the Spurs should excel in the cross-match. James will also be pretty worn out. He's the best player in the league, but he's not the best conditioned.
    This is so true. Lebron is like 270lb and as freakish as he is athletically. carrying that much weight chasing 190lb (?) Parker all game long will work to Spurs advantage.

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    main concern this series

    the spurs best weapon offensively is also miami's best strength defensively

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    Heat relies on athleticism over defensive fundamentals. That works against most teams, but Spurs ball movement should kill them.

    A horrible Pacers offence has scored 96+ on them 3 games in a row. I'm not worried about scoring, I'm worried about stopping them the other end.
    This.

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    For everyone's benefit, here's the B-ball Breakdown of Game 2 of the ECF:



    If the Pacers can exploit Miami's defense with an overhyped small-forward and George Hill handling the ball, the Spurs will be fine. I think Miami's defense will be easier to crack than Memphis', that's for sure.

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    Our best weapon against Miami is actually ball movement.
    They like to double up and trap due to the lack of rim protector. Then they will rotate quickly and they are able to do so due to the foot speed of LeBron and Wade.
    We just have to move the ball to exhaust them as the rest of the rosters are filled with old men such as R.Allen, Battier, Miller.

    Start with a PnR to initiate the trap. if Parker is able to find the roll man, it will be easy 2 pts. Otherwise, take the easy pass and send them running by moving the ball side to side. If we are able to do that early in the game, it will be advantageous to us in the late game when they are gassed.

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    Miami is so good at pnr defense because the leagues bigs are so bad. They hedge really hard ie Bosh Birdman et al will double the ball handler hard out on the perimeter. That has the side effect of leaving the roll man a clear lane because his man is with the dribbler. Duncan and Splitter should eat that up as long as they space things correctly. It will end up in 4 foot hooks, layups and dunks or wide open perimeter shots.

    Our bigs should have pretty easy sailing down low. Bosh is a bigger pussy on the boards than Splitter is. Andersen has been mediocre at guarding Duncan and Bosh wiill get owned. They key is slowing down Bosh and Wade. We need Green and Leonard to be at the top of thei defensive game. Having them and Manu run James and Wade around should help quite a bit.

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    Difference is that the Heat play in the D-league eastern conference. Easy to put up great stats.
    Even though this argument is overplayed at times, there is still a degree of truth to it.

    There's a reason Eastern conference teams tend to be high in defensive ratings every year: The east has very ty offensive teams in it. When they play the west, their defensive ratings are much worse.

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