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When Hill loses the starting point guard job before the end of his contract, this trade won't look so good.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ference-finals
Sometime near the moment Leonard stepped onto the draft lottery stage, Popovich, sitting in the Spurs draft room near Buford and Lindsey, picked up the phone. He wanted to tell Hill, whom he still calls "Georgie," about the trade himself. It might have been the most vulnerable Buford had ever seen Popovich, Buford says. "It was so emotional. I was there. I saw it. He was incredibly emotional." Buford wouldn't get into the details, as is the Spurs way. "I wouldn't do that," he says. "But it was very difficult."4Both teams are thrilled with the outcome, part of the reason the Hill-Leonard trade has improbably emerged as one of the league's most interesting and talked-about deals of the last half-decade or so. But the smart money is on the deal emerging over the next couple seasons as much closer to a true San Antonio "win."
When Hill loses the starting point guard job before the end of his contract, this trade won't look so good.
Good article.
Definitely a win-win. Lowe overrates Collison in that article; there's no way a Collison-led team makes the ECF. That guy has the lowest basketball IQ of any PG in the league.
But, yeah, that was a damn great trade for the Spurs. Leonard fits so perfectly next to the Big 3 that it's scary. It's like Pop built him in a lab
Indiana got what they needed out of the trade and a fine player in Hill, who may struggle as a full-time point. But he's a player and they wouldn't be here without him.
That said, I'd take the trade 100 times out of a 100 for the Spurs. Easily.
Yes, now, having Hill back to backup Tony would be great.
A Manu - Hill backcourt will destroy any 2nd unit.
How lucky it was that Leonard managed to be on the board at the 15th pick.
Without leonard, the splash brothers could have killed us.
The Hill deal will be fine if they can replace Stevenson with a better ball-handler. No matter how much people try to say George is a star, he won't be able to make it as the main creator. Indiana needs better offensive players if they want to be anything more than Memphis East.
I meant having both. reaquiring Hill.
One of the interesting things in that article is that on a limited sample size, Kawhi was the most efficient post player in the league. It could be a really important counter to LeBron guarding TP. Kawhi on Chalmers/Cole in the post could be interesting if that happens. If that works well enough for the Heat to have to defend Parker with Cole/Chalmers and not cross match, that's a win for us.
damn they shouldve pulled the trade in 2010 for paul george lol
A great trade for the Spurs. Just having Kawhi Leonard makes this a win win, but we might forget that the Spurs aquired two other players in thsat trade in Lorbek, and Bertans. If either one of them, or both come over to play for the Spurs, that potentially would just make this trade even more impressive.
Keeping Boris Diaw meant we missed our window on Lorbek. We're not likely to get another chance.
Great point. People love to talk about how good LeBron is in the post, but if Kawhi can force LeBron to guard him, it will open things up for everyone else.
Hill is barely a starter in an NBA team. He's got so many flaws in his game. IMO he's more a backup guy. No starter material
Kawhi would start on every single NBA team including next to Lebron and Wade.
i like leonard, he's perfect for us, but he wouldn't have been as good on other teams. the spurs system and popovich brings the best out of players. would leonard have gotten minutes over george or granger? i don't think so. so it just depends on where u are. cuz i know for a fact, matt bonner isn't getting the minutes he gets with us anywhere else in the league..
I'd rather Leonard eat Wade (they'd double-cross-match) up in the post, AND have James chasing Parker all game long. When was the last time James had to work that hard on defense?
Have to agree. Hill is only a slightly better version of Antonio Daniels. At any rate, what you see with Hill is what you get. He's reached his potential.
Hill is barely a starter in an NBA team. He's got so many flaws in his game. IMO he's more a backup guy. No starter material
Kawhi would start on every single NBA team including next to Lebron and Wade.
Kawhi's upside is much better, and he's still growing.
Hill isn't a standout, but he's a decent complementary starter. Comparing Hill to Parker is like comparing Danny Green to James Harden -- not every starter is an All-Star, and they don't have to be.
The Pacers have made a deep playoff run, and George is what, their 4th-best player? He can't be too awful.
Imagine Kahwi+George, that's a sick ass combo. Instead they chose Hill
Hill is best suited as sixth man, as was used by the Spurs. He's an undersized SG. But, he shots damn well and drives well too. His offense is very efficient and his defense is good too. He can bring the ball up, but he can't set plays for others.
It was a big risk for the Spurs, on the other hand Indy got an above average player that was about to sign a much better contract. The Spurs probably weren't able a keep Hill.
Lorbek was (and is) never coming. He only wanted to use the Spurs to leverage his new contract in Europe, just like Boursis or whatever the his name was. They both stiffed after stiffing the Spurs.
?? They would never have drafted Kawhi for themselves. They already had George and Granger at the wing positions. They would probably have just grabbed the best PG possible, in lieu of GHill being traded there.Imagine Kahwi+George, that's a sick ass combo. Instead they chose Hill
The article says they would have and almost did pull out of the deal when they saw Leonard was still on the board.
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