NBA: If the Kang doesn't ring this year...

[StrengthAndHonor]

Not bad cast they just are not playing well...as a unit ..
Chalmers dropped 20 last night ...
Haslem 17 game before ...

Bosh and wade look like role players not stars ...thats the problem and they are missing open 3's ...and getting killed on the boards.

Wade is underwhelming but I think Bosh is just not utilized. Good thing Birdman has stepped up tremendously.

[Killakobe81]

I've already said many times that Lebron's choke against Dallas already eliminated him from talks with Dad Killer, tbh..

here we disagree. though mj had a perfect Finals record he lost playoffs series too ...
would be tough but if James were to 4 peat or win 4 out of 7 ... he would have a case ..

[JoeTait75]

Agreed. LOsing to Magic especially with how little Dwight has done since ... is also shaky but agree on everything else. in fact he has exceed expectations as a player every year as has his teams more times than not.

Orlando was a horrible, horrible matchup for that Cavaliers team, tbh. LeBron's circus shot at the end of game two is the only reason Cleveland didn't get swept. Cannot put that loss on him at all.

[baseline bum]

Jerry West was 1-8 in NBA Finals and was still thought of as "Mr. Clutch" and an all-time great and immortalized forever in the NBA's logo....

[Killakobe81]

Wade is underwhelming but I think Bosh is just not utilized. Good thing Birdman has stepped up tremendously.

true but 3 rebounds in a playoff game? as a big selected to the ASG?!
Bonner probably can get you 3 boards in less minutes ...
heck ray Allen had 7 ..

[Killakobe81]

Orlando was a horrible, horrible matchup for that Cavaliers team, tbh. LeBron's circus shot at the end of game two is the only reason Cleveland didn't get swept. Cannot put that loss on him at all.

he played well ... and i get your point, and at the time I agreed ..b ut after watching Dwight up close no way should a player of James caliber lose to a team led by Dwight & Turk ...

great coaching by SVG though ...

[whitemamba]

if he doesn't get one this year, will he ever get another ring with the Heat? or will he have to take his talents to LA or some already loaded team to get more rings?

ill never forget that boise state game, it was one of the most epic finished id ever seen

[whitemamba]

if he doesn't get one this year, will he ever get another ring with the Heat? or will he have to take his talents to LA or some already loaded team to get more rings?

ill never forget that boise state game, it was one of the most epic finishes id ever seen

[Mugen]

Definitely a hit on the resume. When people look back on the season and see that LeBron didn't ring, they'll only see the 27 game win streak and the relatively weak level of compe ion in the league. They'll gloss over the fact that Wade is a s of himself and Bosh is a glorified Udonis Haslem tbh.

[Mugen]

His "legacy" will take an even bigger hit if he leaves in 2014 for somewhere like the Lakers tbh. The only way he leaves Miami with his legacy intact is if he goes back to Cleveland and gets them a ring.

[spurraider21]

IMO he's got to have a winning record (at least) in the finals if he wants to be in GOAT talks. if he loses in the finals and dips to 1-3, he'd have to win 3 more to be in talks. if he does get 3 more (with 3 finals mvp's) and presumably a couple of MVP's and a DPOY he'd be in the conversation.

[baseline bum]

His legacy takes an enormous hit without a le this season. He had legit reasons in Cleveland considering the horse teams put around him, but even with an injured Wade he still has a really stacked supporting cast (other than coach).

[ElNono]

true but 3 rebounds in a playoff game? as a big selected to the ASG?!
Bonner probably can get you 3 boards in less minutes ...
heck ray Allen had 7 ..

This is nitpicking, tbh... career-wise, he's a 8 rpg player in the playoffs... everybody can have a bad game/series, depending on matchups.

[whitemamba]

This is nitpicking, tbh... career-wise, he's a 8 rpg player in the playoffs... everybody can have a bad game/series, depending on matchups.

They are talking about how hes performing now... hes declining fast

[ElNono]

They are talking about how hes performing now... hes declining fast

Bosh is scoring and rebounding about the same as last playoffs (13.5ppg now vs 14ppg last playoffs, 7.8rpg now vs 6.8rpg last playoffs).

It's possible this specific series matchup isn't for him (Hibbert is overrated, but he has been putting work this series), but his overall production isn't much different than last playoffs.

[whitemamba]

Bosh is scoring and rebounding about the same as last playoffs (13.5ppg now vs 14ppg last playoffs, 7.8rpg now vs 6.8rpg last playoffs).

It's possible this specific series matchup isn't for him (Hibbert is overrated, but he has been putting work this series), but his overall production isn't much different than last playoffs.

thats it 14 ppg? and 7 rpg? damn thats pretty ty imho

[jimbo]

he played well ... and i get your point, and at the time I agreed ..b ut after watching Dwight up close no way should a player of James caliber lose to a team led by Dwight & Turk ...

great coaching by SVG though ...

Nah, Dwight was a whole lot better back then before his back injury. He could actually outmonkey people when he was around the rim. He should be a ton better next year.

Definitely a hit on the resume. When people look back on the season and see that LeBron didn't ring, they'll only see the 27 game win streak and the relatively weak level of compe ion in the league. They'll gloss over the fact that Wade is a s of himself and Bosh is a glorified Udonis Haslem tbh.

I think this is closest to the truth unless he somehow ends up with 4-5+ rings. Not a whole lot of people bring up Magic choking in the finals anymore since he has so many other rings.

[AaronY]

Bosh is scoring and rebounding about the same as last playoffs (13.5ppg now vs 14ppg last playoffs, 7.8rpg now vs 6.8rpg last playoffs).

It's possible this specific series matchup isn't for him (Hibbert is overrated, but he has been putting work this series), but his overall production isn't much different than last playoffs.

Bosh has 13 rebounds in four games this series..Hibbert has 26 offensive rebounds so far in the series..

[TDMVPDPOY]

wade and bosh use to be top5 players at their position, so much has change since last ring...

[manufan10]

It depends on how many he ends up winning in his career, tbh. If he goes on to win a few more it won't, imo.

[ElNono]

thats it 14 ppg? and 7 rpg? damn thats pretty ty imho

That was enough to win a ring last year... if you're looking for a severe drop in production, you have to start looking at Wade, tbh...

[midnightpulp]

he played well ... and i get your point, and at the time I agreed ..b ut after watching Dwight up close no way should a player of James caliber lose to a team led by Dwight & Turk ...

great coaching by SVG though ...

He didn't just play "well," he was historically great in that series.

A player of James's caliber can certainly lose to a team led by Dwight and Hedo if the second best player on his team is Mo Williams.

[ElNono]

Bosh has 13 rebounds in four games this series..Hibbert has 26 offensive rebounds so far in the series..

Yeah, it's possible this particular matchup isn't good to Bosh, but in general his numbers are basically the same as last season...

[AaronY]

I just like mentioning that stat..It's a fun one for sure..

[HarlemHeat37]

2009 Dwight Howard would be the 2nd best player in the NBA today, tbh..

By far the best defensive player in the league, at peak athleticism, one of the 3 most athletic bigs in NBA history..playing in a perfect system with optimal spacing..

Lebron averaged 38-8-8 in that series on great efficiency, not sure what else he could have done..