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http://www.timesunion.com/news/artic...ls-4558332.php
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Invoking the image of recent mass shootings, Democrats in the state Legislature on Wednesday passed a series of firearms bills designed to reduce the chances for widespread carnage even as opponents warned that the measures would not keep weapons from those intent on committing horrific crimes.
Among other changes, the bills that passed between the Senate and the Assembly would expand the list of people who are prohibited from owning firearms, require permits and a fee when buying ammunition, and ban semi-automatic rifles with detachable ammunition magazines.
Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, who pushed the ban on detachable magazines, said the bills would close loopholes in existing laws, keep firearms away from dangerous people and strengthen requirements for gun ownership.
He said banning rifles that can be reloaded quickly with detachable magazines would not end gun violence but that it would help.
"How many lives will we save? I would bet many," he said.
Republican lawmakers said repeatedly that the bills do not address the root of the problem — mental instability — and would only hurt law-abiding gun owners if they become law. Sen. Jim Nielsen, R-Gerber, said much of the legislation effectively criminalized legal behavior.
"This will not affect criminals one whit," he said in response to the bill that would require a background check and permit to buy ammunition. "They will get their ammunition. It certainly will disable law-abiding Californians."
The bills were among roughly three dozen that were introduced in the Legislature this year as lawmakers in California and other states sought to respond to the mass shootings in Connecticut and Colorado. Other states, including New York, also have approved tough firearms laws this year.
Lawmakers are acting on hundreds of bills this week as they face a Friday deadline to pass bills from one house to the other, marking the midway point in the year's legislative session. The firearms bills passing the Senate on Wednesday included:
— SB47, which prohibits so-called bullet buttons and other devices that gun manufacturers use to cir vent the state's assault weapons ban and allow swift reloading. A similar bill, AB48, passed in the Assembly and bans conversion kits that allow people to modify their weapons.
— SB567, which changes the definition of a type of shotgun that is already banned in the state to include a shotgun-rifle combination.
— SB53, which requires ammunition buyers to get a permit, have a background check and pay a fee.
— SB396, which bans ammunition magazines over 10 rounds, including those that people already own.
— SB755, which expands the list of those prohibited from owning weapons to include people convicted of additional drug and alcohol offenses.
— SB683, which expands the requirement for a firearms safety certificate from handguns to rifle purchases.
— SB374, which prohibits the sale, purchase, manufacture, importation or transfer of semi-automatic rifles that can accept detachable magazines.
— SB299, which requires gun owners to promptly inform law enforcement agencies when a gun is lost or stolen. Failing to report within 48 hours would be an infraction punishable by a $100 fine.
— SB293, which requires that guns sold in the state be equipped with technology, such as biometric readers, that would prevent anyone but the registered owner from firing them.
The Assembly passed AB500 by Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco, which requires gun owners to safely store their firearms when someone who lives in the home is prohibited from owning a weapon because of mental illness or a criminal record.
The bill also allows for a seven-day extension on the current 10-day waiting period for weapons purchases if the state Department of Justice needs the extra time to complete a background check and requires dealers to notify the justice department when the buyer has taken possession.
"All components of this bill will keep firearms out of the hands of people who should not have them and ensure our registry system and background checks are working," Ammiano said on the floor.
Republicans opposed the bill, calling it an assault on an individual's right to bear arms. They say the longer waiting periods will become normal.
"The idea that you can deny an individual a right ... because that individual happens to live with someone who is on the armed prohibited persons list, I think is deeply offensive," said Assemblyman Tim Donnelly, R-Twin Peaks.
He added, "I think that's just flat out un-American."
Other Republican lawmakers, as well as Democratic state Sen. Rod Wright, said many of the bills would invite legal challenges on Second Amendment grounds that would cost the state money. Wright, who represents south Los Angeles and opposed the bills, likened a permit system for ammunition purchases to requiring people to register before buying gasoline to put in their vehicle.
He said criminals would always find a way around new restrictions, such as buying ammunition secondhand on the street.
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Summary
SB 683 [Firearms: Firearm Safety Certificate]....Passes 28-11
SB 53 [Ammunition: Purchase permits] ...Passes 22-14
Summary: Ammunition buyer permit requirement; face-to-face ammo sales only at licensed dealers.
•Requires annual background check and permit for the purchase of ammunition.
•Requires all ammunition sales to occur face-to-face.
•Requires assistance from retail staff in a store to handle all ammunition for purchase.
•Requires ammunition vendors to submit sales records to the CA Department of Justice.
SB 396 [Firearms: Magazine Capacity] ....Passes 24-14
Summary: Magazine ban
•Criminalizes the possession of high capacity magazines regardless of the date the magazine was acquired – full retroactive ban.
•Results in a taking of property that was previously lawful.
•Requires magazine bodies to be no longer than is necessary to accommodate 10 rounds of ammunition, the spring, and the follower.
•Bans “10/30” style magazines and any factory magazine that is designed to accommodate large-frame handguns, rifles, and shotguns.
SB 755 [Firearms: Prohibited Persons] ....Passes 25-12
Summary: Expands the list of “prohibited persons”
•This bill vastly expands the list of prohibitions to firearms possession.
•SB 755 adds several misdemeanors to the list of prohibiting offenses including hazing, transferring a firearm without completing the transaction through a licensed firearms dealer, furnishing ammunition to a minor, carrying ammunition onto school grounds, and several others.
•Makes it a felony to possess a firearm if a person has been convicted of two or more crimes within a three-year period and was found to have been under the influence of drugs or alcohol during the commission of the crimes.
•Makes it a felony to possess a firearm if a person has been convicted of possessing any controlled substance for sale.
•Makes it a felony to possess a firearm if a person has violated any protective order that was issued due to a threat of violence.
•Prohibits the possession of a firearm during court ordered outpatient for mental illness during that treatment.
SB 47 [Firearms: Assault Weapons Bullet Buttons] ....Passes 22-14
Summary: Ban and forced registration of firearms.
•Expands the definition of “assault weapon” to include rifles that have magazines which can be removed without disassembly of the “action”.
•A firearm’s “action” is not defined in the bill, leaving it open to subjective interpretation by law enforcement officers, District Attorneys, judges, and juries.
•Owners of “off list” “bullet button”, and other “mag-locked” firearms would be required to register (at the gun owner’s expense) each gun with the DOJ by July 1, 2014, or face imprisonment and other criminal liability.
•Even after registration, transfer and inheritance of SB 47-regulated firearms would be banned – resulting in an effective taking of lawfully owned private property.
SB 374 [Firearms: Assault Weapons registration] .....Passes 23-15
Summary: Ban and forced registration of all semi-automatic rifles (including rimfire)
•Requires gun owners to register every semi-automatic rifle, including rimfire.
•Requires gun owners of existing semi-auto rifles to submit fingerprints and forms to DOJ, which will be tracked in a government database.
•Bans sales and transfers of virtually all semi-automatic rifles after Jan 1, 2014.
•“Bullet button” and similarly “mag-locked” off-list (OLL) rifles would be considered banned “assault weapons”.
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RandomGuy you lie. I fail to see how these pussy liberals used a shred of intellect when passing these bills. The Boy Scout out shooting his Ruger 10/22 would be considered a felon for now having an assault weapon. What a ing joke. I might as well go full auto with my AR15's if they are going to be considered illegal in their current form. Time for all you gun fearing pussy liberals to move to CA. We welcome the Fuzzys and Blakes with open arms.
Why do you hate federalism? Move you whiny pussy.
For someone who proclaims to not care much, you sure do follow me around a lot proclaiming to not care.
Why should I move because some pussy liberals are trying to pass uncons utional laws? I'll stay here with my guns, I will not comply.
If the day ever comes (which it never will) when the choice is either to give up your guns or go all out "from my cold, dead hands", we'll see just how non-pussified gun lovers really are.
The best was when that knuckle dragging mingus said that if he was in the Aurora movie theatre he woulda shot James Holmes thinking it made him sound like a badass.
SCOTUS will decide whether or not these laws are uncons utional. In the meantime, move or stfu.
If you feel your rights are being violated and you feel strongly enough about this, hire a lawyer and sue...
Before anything reaches SCOTUS, how about avoiding my threads, since you don't care so much.
There will be plenty of lawsuits coming if these pass, wonderful waste of tax payers money.
It's more fun to point to the irony of you calling liberals pussies all the while ting your pant and whining like the internet pussy you are.
Agreed... but some of this has to do with that... testing what the boundaries are.
Since when does sharing and discussing issues equal whining? All you do is follow me around and about whining, do you understand the definition of whining, or are you not too "inteligent"?
I hope these boundaries they are testing results in these asshats losing their elected positions, much like what is happening n Colorado. Problem here in CA is the influx of illegal aliens who appreciate the Democrats free handouts, and continue to vote these people in.
There are going to be nuremberg trials for all marxist conspirators once hits the fan, you can believe that. They just sent ricin to Bloomberg, I'm sure that's just the warning shot.
whine
verb (used without object)
2.
to snivel or complain in a peevish, self-pitying way
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/whineI may soon be a felon
Illegal aliens don't vote. The biggest problem you seem to be having is adjusting to the reality that in California, your voice is a minority and it keeps on shrinking...
As I told you a long time ago, you should probably move if you want to keep your hobby. Or well, lose the hobby.
I always find the "massive voter fraud" claims pretty hilarious, tbh...
This is a state that had a Republican governor (Arnold) up to not that long ago (2010, IIRC). So, you know, either s vote red team too, or red team didn't hand out tacos with their latest message.
In California particularly, the last congressional election was won by the blue team with 60% of the votes.
Was speaking in terms of the upcoming amnesty and lumped the already legal handout takers in with them, should have clarified. It's only getting worse here.
Sorry, that isn't whining in the least bit, just stating what could happen if these pass. At least you'll sleep well tonight thinking you've claimed an internet point.
Funny that you and the few other gun fearing folk here are not even addressing the issue anymore as it becomes more and more clear that I was right all along, they are trying to disarm the population, little by little, state by state. Did you even read what passed the Senate today in California Blake? Do you understand the ramifications this will have on law abiding citizens if passed? Are you okay with your government doing this? What good will come of these laws? Try answering the questions truthfully and forget for a moment that it is me asking you these questions.
The demographics changed a while ago. The key is adapt or become irrelevant.
Adapt or become irrelevant? If that is the mindset of this country then we are ed beyond belief. I refuse to adapt to the culture of freeloading off the government while doing nothing to contribute to society. This is what makes me look at liberals with such disdain. I don't care much for conservatives either but at least they are willing to work. Getting off topic here a bit, back to guns.
Right when ammo was starting to show back up on shelves here in CA this happens. Gonna be another panicked buying frenzy again. Looks like I'll be offloading a few thousand rounds for a hefty chunk of change.
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