Thomas Robinson....yes, please.

[HemisfairArena]

I know we are in the Finals but we have a lot of time before the first game so lets discuss something else...like a trade. The Rockets are looking to get rid of Thomas Robinson...last years #5 overall pick(a power forward)...to free up cap space to get D.Howard. I would absolutely love the Spurs to go for this kid and let him learn under Duncan for the next two years. Our new big 3 in 2015 would be Leonard/Robinson/Splitter....with, hopefully, Parker playing a high level at the point. Houston is just looking to dump this kid for capspace and its time to rectify them getting over on us with Scola and taking Robinson off their hands and watching him become a stud. the kid only played 15 minutes a game and still nearly averaded 5 and 5. Under Pop and Duncan coaching...the kid will blossom. Duncan's heir apparant for the taking right up I-10.

[MANUNG-Ginobili]

I haven't seen this guy playing but I have a great feeling that he plays better than the turd tower...

[spurraider21]

If they're looking for a straight salary dump we can theoretically give them Bonners non-guaranteed contract and the salaries would fit

[SpurPadre]

It's not a good sign when the Kings find you expendable for Patrick Peterson. Pass.

[Darius McCrary]

Houston trades only go one way: Spurs getting screwed.

[stephen jackson]

Houston trades only go one way: Spurs getting screwed.

ehh yeah scola burned us but overall hes fell off and never hurt us in the playoffs.

hopefully we get t-rob

[exstatic]

He's ing terrible.

If you want to steal a GOOD young big, offer Memphis something they need for something we need:
Green, DeColo and Bonner (cap relief) for Ed Davis and Tayshaun.

[Darius McCrary]

He's ing terrible.

If you want to steal a GOOD young big, offer Memphis something they need for something we need:
Green, DeColo and Bonner (cap relief) for Ed Davis and Tayshaun.

You can't be serious. Tayshaun would not get one minute on the court with Pop placing premium on shooting, and Ed Davis has shown nothing so far.

[exstatic]

You can't be serious. Tayshaun would not get one minute on the court with Pop placing premium on shooting, and Ed Davis has shown nothing so far.

PERs
Ed Davis 17.8
DeJuan Blair 14.7 *
Matt Bonner 11.9 *
Thomas Robinson 11.0

*turd tower

Career 3G% for Tayshaun: 37. This year: 40

Any more mistakes you need to type?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

He's ing terrible.

If you want to steal a GOOD young big, offer Memphis something they need for something we need:
Green, DeColo and Bonner (cap relief) for Ed Davis and Tayshaun.

If there's a deal to be made for Ed Davis, I agree that the Spurs definitely need to look into it. But I don't know if I'd give up Green though.

[benefactor]

Thomas Robinson Trade Target Thread:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192314

[apalisoc_9]

6 more days of BS threads.

[Chinook]

He's ing terrible.

If you want to steal a GOOD young big, offer Memphis something they need for something we need:
Green, DeColo and Bonner (cap relief) for Ed Davis and Tayshaun.

Green's better than Prince. I'd rather sign another two-guard and move Green over than take on Prince's deal. I'm intrigued by Davis, but I'd rather get Robinson for Bonner than give up anything or value for Davis.

[PÒÓCH]

He's a dud, I watched him while he was in Kansas and then I followed him while he was with the Kings. The guy is Immature and one dimensional, plus I question his basketball I.Q., Other than rebounding and some points in the paint I'd much rather keep Blair around than to offer that clown a contract with a team like the Spurs.

[exstatic]

Green's better than Prince. I'd rather sign another two-guard and move Green over than take on Prince's deal. I'm intrigued by Davis, but I'd rather get Robinson for Bonner than give up anything or value for Davis.

...and Davis is better than any other big we've drafted since Duncan. You gotta give to get.

Start Tay at the 3, slide Kawhi to the 2. We're just as good defensively, and longer, and Tay/Kaw aren't any less creative at the starting wings than Kaw/Danny. You still have Manu off the bench to score/create with either of them, and he never has to play the 3 again. You also get an above average big man of size who is 23, almost 24. His PERs for his first three years were 15.8,14.2(lockout year), 17.8.

[50 cent]

Tayshaun is ing done.

[exstatic]

Tayshaun is ing done.

He can still D, and other than our series, shot well this year. We don't need him to be a star, just pretty much fill the 3 and D roll that Danny did.

[tesseractive]

...and Davis is better than any other big we've drafted since Duncan. You gotta give to get.

Start Tay at the 3, slide Kawhi to the 2. We're just as good defensively, and longer, and Tay/Kaw aren't any less creative at the starting wings than Kaw/Danny. You still have Manu off the bench to score/create with either of them, and he never has to play the 3 again. You also get an above average big man of size who is 23, almost 24. His PERs for his first three years were 15.8,14.2(lockout year), 17.8.

I like some of your takes quite a bit, but I honestly don't see how you could have watched the same Memphis series I did and still come to the conclusion that Tayshaun could play for us at this point in his career. Did you not see all the plays where Danny and Kawhi didn't even pretend to guard him and just camped out in the lane waiting for Z-Bo?

[exstatic]

I like some of your takes quite a bit, but I honestly don't see how you could have watched the same Memphis series I did and still come to the conclusion that Tayshaun could play for us at this point in his career. Did you not see all the plays where Danny and Kawhi didn't even pretend to guard him and just camped out in the lane waiting for Z-Bo?

Not sure how we got away with that, but I'm OK with it. Fact: he shot 40% from 3 this year, and 37% for his career. If his shot needs a tuneup, we've got the guy.

[Darius McCrary]

PERs
Ed Davis 17.8
DeJuan Blair 14.7 *
Matt Bonner 11.9 *
Thomas Robinson 11.0

*turd tower

Career 3G% for Tayshaun: 37. This year: 40

Any more mistakes you need to type?

So essentially Tayshaun would have the lowest career 3 percentage out of any other option on the roster, cool, knew i was on the right track.

Also PER is garbage without considering sample size.

[cutewizard]

Can we get Nocioni??

lol

[exstatic]

So essentially Tayshaun would have the lowest career 3 percentage out of any other option on the roster, cool, knew i was on the right track.

Also PER is garbage without considering sample size.

Two important things to remember about PER are that it's per-minute and is pace-adjusted.

Because it's a per-minute measure, it allows us to compare, say, Steve Blake and Derek Fisher, even though there is a disparity in their minutes played.

Time to open your mouth and change feet yet? Sample size doesn't mean .

[Chinook]

...and Davis is better than any other big we've drafted since Duncan. You gotta give to get.

Start Tay at the 3, slide Kawhi to the 2. We're just as good defensively, and longer, and Tay/Kaw aren't any less creative at the starting wings than Kaw/Danny. You still have Manu off the bench to score/create with either of them, and he never has to play the 3 again. You also get an above average big man of size who is 23, almost 24. His PERs for his first three years were 15.8,14.2(lockout year), 17.8.

Davis isn't better than Splitter. He wouldn't start for the Spurs unless they decided not to bring Splitter back. Prince would be the back up three while Baynes would be sitting in a suit. I see no reason why that would be an improvement to the current team. I'd probably take Green over Davis straight up right now, as he's a great fit for this system already and still has some upside left. Davis has potential, but he gets overhyped too much. He's not a sure-fire star, and he wouldn't improve the Spurs' chances of competing anytime soon.

I know most people think Leonard's a guard defender, but he's not. He can only stay on points for a short period of time, and he isn't the help defender (not off-ball, but actual leaving his man to help) that Green is. The two of them make a much better defensive duo than Leonard and Prince would, because Green can cover ones-threes while Leonard does big twos-small fours. At best, Prince can cover threes and small fours, so there'd be little help for Parker when it comes to guarding most small guards. Simply put, replace Green with Prince, and the Spurs may not have beaten the Warriors, Davis or no Davis.

[Chinook]

Time to open your mouth and change feet yet? Sample size doesn't mean .

I don't know enough about the math of PER to disagree with you, but per-minute and pace-adjusted stats are still susceptible to low sample sizes. Someone could make a small play in a short period of time, and the PER may be really high for that play. But that doesn't mean it's an honest indicator of how the player would perform over a larger number of plays. If anything, Hollinger is saying PER ignores sample size, rather than accounts for it. That's not a good thing for accuracy.

I'm just going off that quote you posted, so forgive me if he clarified at some other point.

[exstatic]

Davis isn't better than Splitter. He wouldn't start for the Spurs unless they decided not to bring Splitter back. Prince would be the back up three while Baynes would be sitting in a suit. I see no reason why that would be an improvement to the current team. I'd probably take Green over Davis straight up right now, as he's a great fit for this system already and still has some upside left. Davis has potential, but he gets overhyped too much. He's not a sure-fire star, and he wouldn't improve the Spurs' chances of competing anytime soon.

I know most people think Leonard's a guard defender, but he's not. He can only stay on points for a short period of time, and he isn't the help defender (not off-ball, but actual leaving his man to help) that Green is. The two of them make a much better defensive duo than Leonard and Prince would, because Green can cover ones-threes while Leonard does big twos-small fours. At best, Prince can cover threes and small fours, so there'd be little help for Parker when it comes to guarding most small guards. Simply put, replace Green with Prince, and the Spurs may not have beaten the Warriors, Davis or no Davis.

You're right about Splitter, but he may well be gone. He was also older when he hit the NBA than Davis is now as a 3 year vet. Splitter is not and cannot be the future big for the Spurs. He might play another 6 years with normal care and fitness. Davis could play another 12.