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  1. #76
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    when they play the championship caliber defense, they're a championship contender

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    The Lakers will end the Spurs' season in a couple of weeks from now.
    LMFAO........ Have fun without Artest for a while as well, they are not going to make the playoffs because the Mavs are. I said it first.

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    Yes.

    I know the games have been ugly lately. But frankly, I see that as a good thing. I love how this team can grind out victories with good old-fashioned defense and Duncan-centered offense. Takes me back to the mid-2000s...ah, the glory days.

    With the latest pieces around Duncan - namely an improved Kawhi Leonard and Tiago Splitter, along with MVP-level Parker - I think we are definitely championship-level.

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    I suppose I flip flop on my belief. The truth is the West is going to be a wild shootout, who knows who will be standing. But I do believe that if the Spurs build some momentum and confidence, where everything is clicking, then we can beat anyone, including the Heat whom everyone already thinks will repeat.

    At this point I only care about health, seeding is secondary.

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    Like last season?

    The way they finished, you'd have thought......nevermind.

    We'll know only after the playoffs end how the Spurs will do; everything else is just guessing. Based on how good Tony, Tim, Leonard & Splitter are playing; along with the extra season for Green, Jack & Diaw; I, personally think they are going to be an extremely tough out - and have a of a chance at #5 (if they stay healthy). The rest of the season is for Pop to prepare the team for the playoffs - W/L record is irrelevant. Spurs will finish 1 or 2 (if I were a betting man, I'd say 2). Losing HCA doesn't bother me AT ALL - since having it has meant so little (what percentage of 1 seeds actually come out of the West, after all?)

    Pop is going to give the biggest FU to the league for the OKC game, I think. Gonna sit major stars (Tim, Tony, Manu for sure) in a game that is going to be touted as "for all the marbles - HCA throughout the West!!. Going to use that opportunity to demonstrate how relatively meaningless the regular season is. 4th game in 5 nights vs. 4 days rest? Spurs had no chance when this one was scheduled - identical to what happened in Miami earlier. What are the odds the same scenario would play out vs. the two finalists from last season, if not by design; to show how the Spurs don't really stack up?
    Uhhh..

    I thought last year was very good. We got worn down by a better team. IMO we are better and OKC is clearly not without Harden. Our D is inconsistent but clearly better. But the LAST game is always the most important, on this board, and we lost.

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    I'm way too lazy to spam your post with threads posted back in 2010-11 so I won't. As far as winning a championship or making a deep playoff run, that's totally dependent on whether or not Tony gets any help. If he's the beginning, the middle and the end for the Spurs, they'll struggle to make it out of the first round. That's not being a chicken little, that's using common f#cking sense.
    Common sense shows that Spurs differential ratings in offense is still among the highest. What's better is that D Ratings are approaching the levels when they were primarily a low scoring defensive oriented team. It's right there in black and white: http://hoopdata.com/teamff.aspx

    Okay Parker goes out for 3 weeks but the team goes 6-2. If he was the Alpha and Omega, then why does the team go 6-2? They should have gone 1-7 right, since Parker is the guy, no...they went 6-2 because the team has talent and depth outside of TP. While his game is most certainly key to it all, the team still has championship pieces and mindset. So they lost by 1 point on a the road thanks to a James Harden kickout move(Thanks Reggie Miller). But at the end of the day, Even though Ginobili, Parker, and Duncan have missed close to 40 games combined...STILL THEY RIDE and in 1st place in the West. So...how is that not common sense?

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    Spurs have probably the 2nd best chance to come out of the West. The Heat are runaway favorites to win the whole thing.

    Not many teams win championships without transcendent talent. The Spurs had it (Duncan) when they won. Now, the best they have is Parker, who is a very good player making the most of his talents through superior coaching, not a transcendent talent.

    The Spurs win because they are far away the best-coached team in the league. Their system is leaps and bounds beyond what anyone else does. Every single Spurs fan who thinks that Pop is what holds the team back is an idiot. Give the Spurs an average coach and they're a 47-35 team.

    But an above-average opposing coach can figure out the weak spots in a system over the course of a long series. See Scott Brooks, Sefalosha on Parker, game over. An opposing coach can't solve transcendent talent. When Durant or James or Wade goes off, there's nothing you can do.

    That's why the Spurs aren't playoff favorites.

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    Other than the Heat, which team DOES look like a Championship team?

    To date, we're the best team in the West (2nd in the NBA). The team that's behind us in the standings is 1-2 against us this year.

    If we aren't le favorites, we have to be the top candidate to emerge from the West.

    If you would have gone back to 2006 and said we'd even be in contention right now, a lot of Spurs fans would have laughed in your face. As it is, we've retooled, reloaded, and we're probably the only team in the NBA with the potential to knock out the team with a guy who is going to go down as a top 3 player of all-time. the haters, you know who you are. We have no business being in this position, and you have no room to call yourselves Spurs fans if you think you're en led to 15 years of constant dominance and championship contention. That is absolutely unrivaled in NBA history, at least since the merger.

    Savor it, don't scorn it.

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    They aren't playing like it at the moment, but "championship caliber"? Yes. Problem is, nobody's beating the Miami Hght.

    Losing to Miami in the finals would be the first time the Spurs have performed to expectation in the playoffs since 2007.

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    Doesn't matter, the Spurs have lost momentum since Parker's injury. Not even sure if they can get to the WCF.
    No such thing as momentum from one game to another. Just look at last year 20 in a row, you would think no way with the 20 in a row momentum they can lose 4 in a row.

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    A few losses always give reasons to doubt. Dont tell me you havent thought the complete opposite and that the Spurs could win it all. The Spurs are better this year and Ginobili WILL find his magic.

    People forget that Manu has always looked horrible in stretches but then looked like the best person to ever hold a b-ball

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    I really don't. There are way too many variables for this team that almost have to go right for it to happen. Parker has to be the man. Ginobili and Duncan have to step it up in a major way(not too worried about Duncan, but he could gas at almost any time). Leonard, Splitter, and Green have to maintain their production or exceed it to make up for Ginobilis potential decline. We're probably going to have to win a series against the Thunder and the Heat on the road to win. I realize Parker has been out and the stats haven't looked terrible(point differential is still great), but the eye test for me has been just a team that's either tired of the regular season or becoming inconsistent down the stretch. They just don't seem to have the killer instinct that they possessed last season on the offensive end in my view; hopefully the team is out of the injury bug woods and can gel in the next month. If they do win it all I could see them as a kind of Mavericks 2011 run but I guess we all thought the same thing last year also.
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    I change my vote. The HGHt look beatable. It'll take the Spurs playing better than they've played thus far this postseason, but it's not impossible.

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    Nothing I said was incorrect. Tony has been the man over the playoffs. Leonard, Green and Splitter have all stepped up. Ginobili has had major moments. We've even had great games out of Matt Bonner. Anyone who says they looked like contenders to end the season is lying to themselves.

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    Not so much during the season but the way we persevered against a red hot GS team and swept a tough as nails Memphis team, yes, without a doubt.

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    Every championship-winning team has flaws. I think the Spurs win trophy #5.

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