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    Games 20 of 162 and 50 of 162 are incredibly significant. It's the main reason the Angels keep missing the playoffs, because of their ridiculously slow starts, while fast starts by the Rangers have gotten them into the playoffs the last 2 seasons, one of them resulting in a World Series appearance.
    Theyre not incredibly significant. Theres 160 games other than those two.

    You clearly have no clue what you are talking about
    You cant make an infield throw or stretch to make a catch ?

    Yeah that throw is around 125 ft and needs to be thrown not only with the proper velocity to beat the runner but also on target to where the first baseman doesn't take his foot off the base to make the catch and it's way harder than it seems.

    And yeah, the first baseman will make quite a few impressive stretch catches throughout the course of the game. It's not easy at all and if anyone could do it then they wouldn't get paid zillions of dollars.
    proper velocity and on target

    I can make that throw and I am nowhere near a professional baseball player. Making that throw, stretching out at 1st, avoiding guy sliding trying to break up the double play at 2nd, all that is elementary tbh. There are certain things in baseball that are pretty incredible athletic feat but those arent imo and I dont think its even arguable that its the least athletic of the five major sports.

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    If you could do it at the same level, you would be.

    You might be able to scoop a batting practice grounder and throw a 25-mph lob to 1B (or catch a 25-mph lob while at first), but you aren't doing anything close to a routine MLB defensive play.

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    If you could do it at the same level, you would be.

    You might be able to scoop a batting practice grounder and throw a 25-mph lob to 1B (or catch a 25-mph lob while at first), but you aren't doing anything close to a routine MLB defensive play.
    Yep, pretty much.

    You could maybe do it once or twice but not at the level or consistency of what these guys do it every game.

    My guess is after a couple of throws you'd want to quit doing it if you're not up to par.

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    I attempted to play 1B in high school in a position change (outfielder, typically left) and couldn't get used to it. Both the velocity and accuracy were all over the place. The hand-eye coordination to effectively scoop and pick out of the dirt low throws while making sure no stretch left me too awkward or exposed to incoming runner, I just didn't like it, and I'd been playing baseball for almost a decade at that point.

    Game action, even at the 4/5A high school level, moves 5Xs faster than practice.

    Can't even fathom doing what an MLB 1B is like.

    And short and third are ridiculously more difficult than 1st.

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    Wanna make it fun...shorten all the base paths by like 4 feet.

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    Theyre not incredibly significant. Theres 160 games other than those two.



    You cant make an infield throw or stretch to make a catch ?



    proper velocity and on target

    I can make that throw and I am nowhere near a professional baseball player. Making that throw, stretching out at 1st, avoiding guy sliding trying to break up the double play at 2nd, all that is elementary tbh. There are certain things in baseball that are pretty incredible athletic feat but those arent imo and I dont think its even arguable that its the least athletic of the five major sports.
    No, you can't, because if you could you would be making tens of millions of dollars to play a children's game.

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    Theyre not incredibly significant. Theres 160 games other than those two.
    If you miss the playoffs by 1 game, and in the first game of the season you have an 8 run lead in the 9th, and somehow blew it and lost the game, then I'm pretty sure the team will be looking immediately to how they let that game get away from them. Every game matters.



    You cant make an infield throw or stretch to make a catch ?



    proper velocity and on target

    I can make that throw and I am nowhere near a professional baseball player. Making that throw, stretching out at 1st, avoiding guy sliding trying to break up the double play at 2nd, all that is elementary tbh. There are certain things in baseball that are pretty incredible athletic feat but those arent imo and I dont think its even arguable that its the least athletic of the five major sports.

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    another doping scandal
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    need steroids for hitting a ball and running a few bases twice in a game
    "sport"

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    cut it down to 7 innings and play less games in a season. baseball games are so damn long that we'd tailgate in the arlington parking lot until the 5th inning, grab food and more beer, take a piss, get to our nosebleed seats and still leave before the 9th because the girls were too hammered by that time .

    DH rule should be out. pitchers need to start hitting again.
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    You can't fundamentally change the game. It should still be three outs, three strikes, four balls, nine innings.

    You can speed up the game with little things, like making easy outs by getting rid of DH.

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    Or you can tell certain pitchers to stop taking 30 seconds breaks in between pitches.

    Yes, Beckett, Looking at you.

    The DH is unique to the American League as the Pitcher hitting is unique to the National League.

    IMO, they should do something about not making the Pitcher hit and be an automatic out before they do something about the DH.

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    Not sure how a pitcher can be singled out for between-pitch delays when players like Garciaparra were notorious for their delay tactics. New Diamondbacks SS Didi Gregorious takes like two timeouts an at bat.

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    Not sure how a pitcher can be singled out for between-pitch delays when players like Garciaparra were notorious for their delay tactics. New Diamondbacks SS Didi Gregorious takes like two timeouts an at bat.
    Between the pitchers and all of the players stepping out of the box every few at bats adds up.

    Eliminate that and they'll probably save like 20-25 minutes or more per game.

    Sometimes the batter would step out 2 or 3 times and the pitcher would also reset and do his little ritual or whatever. Before you know a good minute and change goes by and not one picth has been thrown.

    I think overall if you limit 1 timeout per at bat the game will go that much faster without alteraring any major rules.

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    But who is penalized? How can it be enforced? It's not like a shot clock or game clock.

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    But who is penalized? How can it be enforced? It's not like a shot clock or game clock.
    One simple way to do it is have the pitcher make his throw once the batter take his batting stance. If the batter happens to call timeout once the pitcher is already in his throwing form, that's a strike no matter.

    Guys make it a habit of calling ill fated timeouts when the pitcher is already throwing the ball. That only ends up hurting the Picther and also delays the game.

    Often the umps grant the batters too many timeouts too.

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    You could have a 15 second batter clock and 20 second pitchers clock, the penalty being a strike or ball respectively after a one-time player warning.

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    Wanna make it fun...shorten all the base paths by like 4 feet.
    Now there's an idea. Except it would make the games longer because more hitters would make it on base.

    And by God if that isn't the last thing baseball needs. Still, between the length of the game and the excitement of the game...at least you're making one of them better.

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    football only has 11 minutes of actual action.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...055561406.html

    baseball has 18 minutes
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...341903720.html

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    Actual action is overrated tbh

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