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Obviously we're homers here, but a serious question..
- Is Tony Parker the most under-appreciated player, in relation to his own generation, of all-time?..
- Is Tony Parker the best PG of the post-Jordan NBA?..
top 3 player in the nba
I'll answer this after this series.
Yes. Even spurfans under appreciate him at times.
As for the best point A.J (after jordan) I have no idea, he's up there though.
He's better than Kidd and Nash. And he's accomplished more.
Those are really the two goto pgs people name.
I think we can all agree he's better than the current top PGs (rose, cp3, westbrook, rondo etc)
So, yes.
It's debatable before he developed a JS though.
I think so but he has hurt his own case with his past of disappearing in the playoffs.
Hes looking pretty damn good right now though.
Parker had mediocre playoffs (for SpurFan expectations ) for 2 spurs championships (his most clutch move in the 05 run was defending Rip Hamilton in the closing seconds of The Horry Game), and he's had to make up for hit the rest of his career.
To add a little perspective, this is the first year where Tony has been able to consistent get his team wins. Consistently, all year, he's carried the Spurs to wins in tough ball games. It's taken him a while to get there, and before this season that is something we've all questioned whether he'd ever get to that level. He's been really good for many years, but this year the difference between him and even all-world greats like Lebron and Durant was nominal. He's always been under-rated, but to give the media credit, they've been talking him up this year, so at least he's getting his due when he's most deserving. I think, considering all he's accomplished, he's right up there in the upper echelon of best players of his generation, because of his consistency and the improvements he's made to his game every season.
If I put myself back 5 years or so, I never would have allowed myself to believe Tony would reach these heights. Legit top three player in the league, who can take over games and will his team to wins (IN THE FINALS!). So ing impressive. From DRob to Timmy to Tony, so damn impressive
I stopped reading after the first line because it was such total bull I figured the rest of the post was worthless too.To add a little perspective, this is the first year where Tony has been able to consistent get his team wins. Consistently, all year, he's carried the Spurs to wins in tough ball games. It's taken him a while to get there, and before this season that is something we've all questioned whether he'd ever get to that level. He's been really good for many years, but this year the difference between him and even all-world greats like Lebron and Durant was nominal. He's always been under-rated, but to give the media credit, they've been talking him up this year, so at least he's getting his due when he's most deserving. I think, considering all he's accomplished, he's right up there in the upper echelon of best players of his generation, because of his consistency and the improvements he's made to his game every season.
If I put myself back 5 years or so, I never would have allowed myself to believe Tony would reach these heights. Legit top three player in the league, who can take over games and will his team to wins (IN THE FINALS!). So ing impressive. From DRob to Timmy to Tony, so damn impressive
TP is stunting on all yall right now. I'm just so appreciative of this team. World's difference to me in the fight in this team compared to last year. Just an amazing run and TP is getting wellllllllllllllllllllllll overdue respect.
He's the best player behind Bron right now.
Yup. Tony Parker has ALWAYS been the "other" member of the big 3. Even after the Finals MVP. I remember when people ranked Deron Williams over him. How's that working out for those pundits? I hope tonight was the first step into Tony's 2nd Finals MVP trophy.
I won't say he's the best PG in the NBA though. I really wonder what Chris Paul would do in this system and with this team. I really don't think he'd do worse than Tony. But, the fact remains that Tony is the one in that situation and he's gotten things done so maybe thats enough to put him over the top?
#2 Spurs player ever IMO
yes above DRob and Ice
1. Lebron 2. KD. 3. TP .... But the debate is pointless. Takes a TEAM to win. Reason the Spurs have been successful.
Parker and Billups are the only point guards to win Finals MVP since Isaiah Thomas. If (I know its crazy premature) but if we win this thing and TP gets finals MVP, he will be the only PG with multiple finals MVP's besides Magic
Tony Parker is definitely one of the most under-appreciated stars of his era. If he were playing in New York or LA he would be one of the biggest stars in the league. As for best point guard post-Jordan, its between him or Jason Kidd in my eyes. People forget how good Kidd was on both sides of the ball. He was one of the best ever. But with one Finals MVP already under his belt, and a good start on a second, Parker is right there with him.
Where the have you been the last 10 years then? The one major knock on Parker has always been his consistency. This is the first season that you couldn't apply that criticism to his game. Don't know how anyone could deny that perfectly obvious observation.
TP has had some rough moments, no doubt. He's done an admirable job as the first option for long stretches, even before this year, but has had some short comings exposed. That doesn't mean he has not been under appreciated and that this year he hasn't shut basically everyone (including myself at times) up.Where the have you been the last 10 years then? The one major knock on Parker has always been his consistency. This is the first season that you couldn't apply that criticism to his game. Don't know how anyone could deny that perfectly obvious observation.
Tony Parker is rare in that he continues to improve every season....imagine if he keeps this level of play for a few more years....
The only real knock I have on Chris Paul is that he's not always great for team chemistry. I mean, he likes harboring those little grudges of his, and they can be bad for his team.
The best point guards don't always have the most stats -- I mean, to look at Isiah Thomas's stats, you might wonder what all the fuss was about. But if you watch the games, he killed it leading those teams to the two les.
This is year 3 of having a team built around Parker offensively. Year 1, we got shocked by Memphis. Year 2, we made it to the Conference Finals. Year 3, we're playing LeBron for the championship belt. Tony doesn't post the best stats ever, but he completely drives this team even on plays where he doesn't record an assist, and opposing teams have to game plan for him and he still manages to go wherever he wants, even in the playoffs.
If the Spurs don't win another game in these playoffs, I think it's still clear that Tony deserves Kobe's spot on the All-NBA First Team. If they win the le with this team built around him, I think he clenches 3rd best player in the NBA in a way that's too obvious for the national media to ignore.
Best post Jordan PGs, in some order:
Billups, Nash, Parker, Kidd, Paul
I think another finals MVP moves Parker to the top. If I could build a team around any guy on this list at their peak, I don't think even Nash was ever more dominant than Tony looks right now, and Tony can at least spell "defense".
As an aside - it's interesting that the "Tiago Splitter" trend has pretty much kept up. In the playoffs, In Spurs wins, Tiago has logged 25+ MPG (tonight 24+) and in Spurs losses, he's logged 13 or less.
You mean like Billups, Nash, and Kidd all did when they peaked in their early to mid 30s? I don't think it's a crazy idea at all.
I think Derrick Rose/Kyrie Irving/CP3 could just as easily be as great if they joined the Spurs when they were 19... as for Westbrook: no, he's too stupid.
Basically what I'm trying to say is - I think a lot of Tony's greatness is mirrored by the greatness that he has around him (Pop/Tim/Manu.) Not to take anything away from him, but I feel TP has really become a true point guard over the past 4-5 seasons and his career assist #s show that.
TP's kryptonite has always been longer defenders and being consistent after teams make that switch. He's been kind of dependent on other guys stepping up when that happens which is not what you want out of your mvp.
Good point. Great players are really defined by their consistency.Where the have you been the last 10 years then? The one major knock on Parker has always been his consistency. This is the first season that you couldn't apply that criticism to his game. Don't know how anyone could deny that perfectly obvious observation.
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