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    You are being unrealistic. The Heat defense is going to get way better.

    These might be proven wrong by the Heat in game 2 because obviously we didn't take their best shot yet but at the same time the Spurs didn't throw there best haymaker either.

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    FFS learn to ing read.

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    The stats have us at only 18% winning game 2.
    What "stats" are you referring to?

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    What "stats" are you referring to?
    Sorry for not putting it up on the OP. Here it is.

    Teams in the Spurs' position have a .188 winning percentage in Game 2. Hopefully we can buck the trend.

    From mysanantonio.com:


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    man if we win game 2, we come back home for 3 strait games..beautifull

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    I said before the series started that it would be huge if the Spurs stole game 1. Now that they have, I think that they should try to steal game 2. They are coming off a two day rest. Even though the stats don't favor us for game 2, I honestly think that the road games in which the Spurs have a higher chance of winning are games 1 and 2 because of the rest. I think the Spurs should approach game 2 like a MUST WIN depending on the cir stances. If it's one of those close nail biting games then they should definitely go for the kill. Having a 2-0 lead would get the Spurs 50 % closer to their goal and would set the Heat into panic mode. Considering the .18 stat probability and the fact that the Heat have yet to lose consecutive games throughout the playoffs just like the Spurs, the task will be a hard one but it would be nice if the Spurs defied the odds.

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    The core veterans on this team would never allow the group to rest on their laurels - and of course Pop wouldn't allow it anyway.

    40% FG shooting, a low assist total and losing the rebounding battle are areas that I'm sure will be of key focus for Game 2.

    They know they can play better and the good news is they most probably will. Of course, they will be hard-pressed to keep the turnovers to such a ridiculous low.

    Stealing Game 2 would put this Heat team into such a vice grip that they would likely implode from within.

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    Spurs will turn it over more, but hopefully hit more open threes. If we're lucky, these will cancel out. Live ball turnovers will kill us even if we shoot lights out from 3.

    I think we need to go to Timmy and even Tiago more in the post. Splitter scored with ease over Lebron and other small 4s the Heat put on him. The only bad post possession for him was against Bosh.

    If Timmy isn't banging against Bosh on the defensive end, that should keep his legs fresh for stretches to throw it in to him in the low block. Obviously we can't go to him 30 times like in years past, but I think he should be able to get 18-20 points on 10-12 post ups with the way we create mismatches.
    All of this ^

    As expected, Duncan and Splitter both are getting whatever they want in the post. So much so, that several times they received the entry pass near the rim are elected to up-fake. The only problem was there was nobody home. They both could've had about 2-3 easy dunks each, if they would've simply went up strong the first time. The point is as stated above, the Spurs should get their share of low post scoring if they simply are conscious enough to take advantage of the obvious mismatch.

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    The core veterans on this team would never allow the group to rest on their laurels - and of course Pop wouldn't allow it anyway.

    40% FG shooting, a low assist total and losing the rebounding battle are areas that I'm sure will be of key focus for Game 2.

    They know they can play better and the good news is they most probably will. Of course, they will be hard-pressed to keep the turnovers to such a ridiculous low.

    Stealing Game 2 would put this Heat team into such a vice grip that they would likely implode from within.
    Good points tbh. Forgot to add that in OP. Yep, Miami should never lead us in the assist total, though I'm not counting on our rebounding that much since it has been one of the weakest parts of the Spurs' game in this playoffs IMHO.

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    The Heat hit a lot of threes to keep them in the game, many of them due to defensive mistakes by the Spurs. The Spurs missed a lot of easy baskets and good opportunities from outside. The Spurs didn't rebound particularly well. I don't see any reason they can't walk in and take game 2 rather convincingly if they shore up their mistakes. The only real adjustment Miami can make is to tell Chris Bosh to get his Rupaul ass into the paint, and he's likely to pout as not when they do it.

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    The stats have us at only 18% winning game 2.

    2. The Spurs shot at 30.4% behind the arc, Whi was 0-4 and DG's 4/9 can be considered great yes it was but most,if not all, of those attempts were, yep wide open. I doubt they shoot that bad again in this series.
    Just wanted to pick out these two things.

    Why is it 18% exactly? I saw a stat that said when road teams take game 1 of the Finals, they are 3-3 in game 2 (since whenever). So that's actually 50%. . .and 50% chance of being up 2-0 is something I would take every single time.

    Danny Green shooting 4/9 isn't great, that's right about what he averages. 4/9 is 44.4%. Green shot 42.9% during the season from three. So that's just 1.5% better. If he shot 3/9 that's 33%. So he pretty much just shot his average.

    I could see Green banging 3-4 threes any night tbh. 43% 3pt shooter with a quick gather and release is deadly.

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    The Heat hit a lot of threes to keep them in the game, many of them due to defensive mistakes by the Spurs. The Spurs missed a lot of easy baskets and good opportunities from outside. The Spurs didn't rebound particularly well. I don't see any reason they can't walk in and take game 2 rather convincingly if they shore up their mistakes. The only real adjustment Miami can make is to tell Chris Bosh to get his Rupaul ass into the paint, and he's likely to pout as not when they do it.

    All of this.

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    The Heat hit a lot of threes to keep them in the game, many of them due to defensive mistakes by the Spurs. The Spurs missed a lot of easy baskets and good opportunities from outside. The Spurs didn't rebound particularly well. I don't see any reason they can't walk in and take game 2 rather convincingly if they shore up their mistakes. The only real adjustment Miami can make is to tell Chris Bosh to get his Rupaul ass into the paint, and he's likely to pout as not when they do it.

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    Just wanted to pick out these two things.

    Why is it 18% exactly? I saw a stat that said when road teams take game 1 of the Finals, they are 3-3 in game 2 (since whenever). So that's actually 50%. . .and 50% chance of being up 2-0 is something I would take every single time.

    Danny Green shooting 4/9 isn't great, that's right about what he averages. 4/9 is 44.4%. Green shot 42.9% during the season from three. So that's just 1.5% better. If he shot 3/9 that's 33%. So he pretty much just shot his average.

    I could see Green banging 3-4 threes any night tbh. 43% 3pt shooter with a quick gather and release is deadly.
    look at the lower right. understand the table first it's confusing when you first look at it.

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    The Heat hit a lot of threes to keep them in the game, many of them due to defensive mistakes by the Spurs. The Spurs missed a lot of easy baskets and good opportunities from outside. The Spurs didn't rebound particularly well. I don't see any reason they can't walk in and take game 2 rather convincingly if they shore up their mistakes. The only real adjustment Miami can make is to tell Chris Bosh to get his Rupaul ass into the paint, and he's likely to pout as not when they do it.
    Agreed on everything except on one part, to be fair with the Heat they hit everything on the first half but went cold from the 3 on the 2nd half though.

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    Agreed on everything except on one part, to be fair with the Heat they hit everything on the first half but went cold from the 3 on the 2nd half though.
    That's because you can't rely on threes to keep you in a game, especially if you don't feed the hot hand. The hot shooting in the first half was the only reason they were in the lead. Not the Spurs' fault that they kept going back to the well so often with people other than Ray Allen and Mike Miller.

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    This Spurs team's ability to make in game adjustments, level headed execution in road games, and ability to get stops on command are what will allow them to win tomorrow.

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    That's because you can't rely on threes to keep you in a game, especially if you don't feed the hot hand. The hot shooting in the first half was the only reason they were in the lead. Not the Spurs' fault that they kept going back to the well so often with people other than Ray Allen and Mike Miller.
    I totally agree. Just pointed that out because the Heat were really ice cold from the 3 in the 2nd half, total opposite from their shooting in the 1st half.

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    I totally agree. Just pointed that out because the Heat were really ice cold from the 3 in the 2nd half, total opposite from their shooting in the 1st half.
    Actually, they shot 50 percent in the third. They just went 0-5 in the fourth. First thing to go is the legs, and that means your jumper suffers.

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    Actually, they shot 50 percent in the third. They just went 0-5 in the fourth. First thing to go is the legs, and that means your jumper suffers.
    How many did they take in the 3rd? Allen made a 3 pointer in the 4th too, they can't be 0-5.

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    It's all to play for now that San Antonio has stolen home court.

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    It's all to play for now that San Antonio has stolen home court.
    Yep, basically a must win situation for the Heat IMHO.

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    I think Spurs will hit more open shots, but I also think they'll turn the ball over more.


    I just watched the 4th quarter again, and I noticed that Spo yanked Birdman for a pretty large part of that quarter. Anything to that? Seems we got easier points in the paint and defensive rebounds .
    I think he yanked Birdman when he saw how easily Duncan made him look really really bad.

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    Actually, they shot 50 percent in the third. They just went 0-5 in the fourth. First thing to go is the legs, and that means your jumper suffers.
    This is really what happened in the fourth, imo. They got very tired and we weren't as tired as they were. After a three day rest they will be much better. They just didn't expect us to be able to execute down the stretch, and when we did, they were a little shocked. The next game I expect them to keep their defensive pressure up for a longer period of time (it is tiring work but they can sustain if for a while), and hopefully we won't be relying on Neal and Bonner for so long as to give them as big a lead that we have work down.

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    How many did they take in the 3rd? Allen made a 3 pointer in the 4th too, they can't be 0-5.
    They went 2 of 5 in the third but I didn't count the half-court shot by Lebron to end the quarter.

    Ray Allen got fouled on a three pointer which he missed, and it doesn't count as a shot attempt.

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    I think he yanked Birdman when he saw how easily Duncan made him look really really bad.
    Which he did to all of their bigs, tbh. The Spurs likely looked at the game tape and saw how many times Duncan was shocked to be as open as he was. I really wouldn't be surprised to see Duncan go for 30 in game 2.

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