Spurs: How many Spurs fans have freely admitted...

[Brazil]

Not saying it was or it wasn't, but if the situation had been reversed and it was LeBron who made the shot, you can rest assured the tears would have flooded the filthy Riverwalk and there'd be a cholera outbreak right about now.

No denying here but I don't see any blatant travels on this action, there are some grey areas on that play (see mid post) but it was IMHO the right call and I like to think ill say the same thing if it was Lebron. Btw I thought it was a consistent officiating job through the game. The flagrant stuff some spurs fans are discussing is not a flagrant.

[look_at_g_shred]

...that Parker traveled?

Not that it means much, traveling is such a bull , unevenly called rule that only the most blatant of infractions can be ed about. And yeah, leBron and Wade travel nonstop, so one travel by parker doesn't mean .

But how many Spurs fans have manned up and admitted that Parker traveled, maybe more than once on that play?

Even if the refs called it for a travel, we still win the game. lol Bosh

[look_at_g_shred]

lol OKC fan can't accept the fact the Spurs beat the Heat fair and square. Has to suc b to Laker fan status. Hey I have a great idea for your next thread, Rate Westbrooks new post game outfit.

[callo1]

Tony was clean on that play, Lebron however, traveled blatantly at 1:48 in the 4th.

[Humberto]

Funny that a Durant fan is talking about traveling when palming the ball almost every possession is overlooked.

[Dex]

If anything, it was a double-dribble, not a travel. When he goes down to his knee, he catches the ball with both hands, then continues his dribble.

However, I don't think it got called because a) the refs couldn't see it since he was huddled around the ball, and b) Wade makes a swipe at the ball at the same time, and it's hard to tell even in the slow-mo if he actually got a deflection or not, but I don't think he did.

[romain.star]

I don't get it, you won the game. You really can't admit he travelled?

Well thank you very much but as far as I'm concerned, I have never won any pro BB game (however, I used to beat my little brother 1on1 very often, does it count? Well, truth been told, I beat him until he grew to 1.98 meters. At that point, my jump shot was too bad to stand a chance)


That being said, even if Parker had travelled, let's admit that it has provided 2 extra points to the Spurs, which eventually led to a 92-88 mathematical victory

[Bill_Brasky]

Hey remenber that tme Leonard got that rebound and Westmonkey slammed him in the head and the ball went out of bounds and they didn't call a foul on Westbrick?

Shut the up OP.

[CitizenDwayne]

Thunderfan talking about officiating

[Clipper Nation]

Thunderfan talking about officiating

Seriously.... apparently Stern letting his Thunderefs do that illegal rip-through move, hack and shove constantly on defense, and punch people in the nuts isn't enough for the meth heads, tbh....

[Durant82]

lol "he has thunder as his favorite team! Let's just insult OKC instead of admitting the obvious!"

this thread went as i figured it would.

[Durant82]

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-tr...the-nba-finals

Guess this guy was right tbh...

"To the Spurs fan, if you don't like the Spurs, or if you think the Spurs are boring, you simply don't understand basketball. You must not really appreciate THE SPORT if you can't appreciate this team. Even Lakers fans aren't that obnoxious. Likewise, Tim Duncan is the most underappreciated player of his generation, says the Spurs fan, ignoring that every basketball fan on earth would call him the greatest power forward of all time. Finally, the Spurs fan knows deep down that his team is the only team really playing The Right Way. Everyone else? Just a bunch of me-firsters out there freelancing like it's an All-Star Game. If only they could all play like the Spurs …"

[Spursmania]

Still bitter OKC lost?

[Vash StampedE]

Here's the sequence in slow-motion:



His footwork to get the shot off was clean and not a travelling violation, but I think he got away with an over-carry at the 9-11 second mark, which would probably be impossible to call in real time at game speed for any referee. At the 16 second mark, he bobbles the ball with both hands, it hits the floor, and then he dribbles the ball to regain possession, which I think might be a double-dribble violation, but I'm not sure.

In any event, I don't think an NBA referee would call any kind of violation against any player in that scenario, since no overt infraction occurred. Every thing, from the double-dribble to the over-carry was in the "grey area" so to speak and not clearly defined enough to justify a whistle.

I think this is the case that OP is trying to bring up. Parker obviously lost control of the ball numerous times in that specific possession and perhaps, carried the ball and dribbled it again before hitting that miraculous shot. But again, maybe the refs, after having reviewed the play in various angles, have seen it differently and made the call as it was.

[Asif Ali Zardari]

Not only did Parker travel but Tim Duncan's 2 free throws in the last minute were drawn from a phantom foul. Where the was the foul on that play?

I hate the cHeat and LeFlop but if it was reversed, Spurs fans would have rioted since they already complain about everything.

[Spurs9]

I think this is the case that OP is trying to bring up. Parker obviously lost control of the ball numerous times in that specific possession and perhaps, carried the ball and dribbled it again before hitting that miraculous shot. But again, maybe the refs, after having reviewed the play in various angles, have seen it differently and made the call as it was.

Regardless, it wasn't the deciding factor in the game, we won by 4 sons.

[JamStone]

I think this is the case that OP is trying to bring up. Parker obviously lost control of the ball numerous times in that specific possession and perhaps, carried the ball and dribbled it again before hitting that miraculous shot. But again, maybe the refs, after having reviewed the play in various angles, have seen it differently and made the call as it was.

The officials reviewed the play to see if Parker got the shot off in time. Even if during the review they decided that Parker traveled, they cannot reverse that non-call. The review has specific restrictions on what is reviewable.

I gave another example in my post above. Say the basketball goes out of bounds and the referees call it off of Tony Parker. Upon review, the ball did hit Tony Parker last but it's clear that Dwyane Wade hacked his arm causing him to lose the ball. The officials cannot go back and call a foul on Wade. The ball is still out on Parker.

Just because after review the officials didn't call a travel, it doesn't mean he didn't. They cannot call the travel regardless on review.

[z0sa]

How y is this thread, tbh.. OP only wants to make other people feel ty of he can, and himself feel better, for whatever reasons

[Vash StampedE]

Yeah I know. Just trying to put an end to OP's trolling

[ffadicted]

I'm shocked this troll got this many hits lol

[Vash StampedE]

The officials reviewed the play to see if Parker got the shot off in time. Even if during the review they decided that Parker traveled, they cannot reverse that non-call. The review has specific restrictions on what is reviewable.

I gave another example in my post above. Say the basketball goes out of bounds and the referees call it off of Tony Parker. Upon review, the ball did hit Tony Parker last but it's clear that Dwyane Wade hacked his arm causing him to lose the ball. The officials cannot go back and call a foul on Wade. The ball is still out on Parker.

Just because after review the officials didn't call a travel, it doesn't mean he didn't. They cannot call the travel regardless on review.

Oh so that's how it goes. Very informative! Thanks!

[BigTex342006]

I still don't see the travel. Since it isn't clear, even in slow-motion, as well as the potential other mishaps, then there was no way the refs were going to make a call in that situation....so it is a moot point and not worth the time already spent in this abortion of a thread. Go back to your meth lab okie...

[Cry Havoc]

I don't think there was a double dribble. Seemed like Parker lost control of the ball just before or right as he "may" have put two hands on the ball. Officials seem to emphasize control on travel and double dribble calls. I see no double dribble call there.

However, there was a legitimate travel. The only video in this thread doesn't give a clear picture of his feet as he shot the ball. Yes, he established his left foot as his pivot. As he went up to shoot the ball, he planted his right foot, then his left foot came off the court with the ball still in his hands, then he shot it. Had he jumped off both feet, no problem. But he picked up his pivot foot before he shot and after planting his right foot. By doing that, he in essence switched his pivot feet. That's a travel. However, I agree with the overall sentiment that it's not egregious enough that it should have been called. That's a really tough call for the officials considering the entire mad dribbling scramble Parker had gone through and the frantic play in general at the time. And it happened so fast. It's not even a split second when he puts his right foot down and lifts his left foot and then also lifts his right foot. It's very, very close and extremely difficult to see in real time.

Here's a clip with a better camera angle to see his feet, right around the 40 second mark:



Also, someone mentioned that the officials reviewed it and didn't call the travel, so he didn't. On reviews to check if he got the shot off on time, officials can't go back and call a violation (foul or travel or things like that) and change it. They can only review whether the shot was released on time. Same thing when they check who the ball hit last. Say Parker and Wade are on the sidelines and they call the ball out on Parker. If they go to review and see that Wade hacked Parker's arm and that's why he lost the ball out of bounds, the officials can't call a foul off of the review. It's still out of bounds on Parker. Even if the officials think Parker walked during the review, they can't call the travel after the fact.

That's a good post. Given the speed of which it happened and everything else that occurred on that play, it's not a bad missed call. There are far worse travels that are missed on a nightly basis by officials, and I seriously doubt even if they could have reviewed the travel, they would have thought it was bad enough to call it.

[Cry Havoc]

Not only did Parker travel but Tim Duncan's 2 free throws in the last minute were drawn from a phantom foul. Where the was the foul on that play?

I hate the cHeat and LeFlop but if it was reversed, Spurs fans would have rioted since they already complain about everything.

You mean the play where Duncan got bodied by TWO players while trying to get a shot up? Clear as day foul. And since it's obvious that you haven't watched the play much, the call was on Bosh, not LeBron. Nice try.

Bosh shooting a 3 while they're down 4 when LeBron is driving into a fairly open lane is a LOT worse of a call than anything the officials missed in this game.

[DontStopBelieving]

Lebron's travel on his layup to cut the lead to 5 was much clearer imo