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Did Boyd transfer out of Clemson?
I do have my doubts about Geno Smith, but...
By the end of 2013 we could have...
E.J.Manuel Bills
Geno Smith Jets
Colin Kaepernick Niners
Cam Newton Panthers
Russell Wilson Seahawks
Michael Vick Eagles
Josh Freeman Buc's
RGIII Redskins
...behind center. Have we ever seen a time when the league had that many black QB 's starting in the same season? If that is the case and we do see that we will see more exciting QB play than we ever have. Athletes playing QB, a big step up when it comes to the...wow...factor.
Waiting in the wings..
Tajh Boyd Clemson
Teddy Bridgewater Louisville
Logan Thomas VT
No doubt somebody else at a JC, Div II, NAIA, Div III, under the radar right now.
Last edited by Avante; 06-08-2013 at 09:50 PM.
Did Boyd transfer out of Clemson?
btw, I agree on Geno...dude could be the black Ryan Leaf. Vick and Freeman suck, despite a plethora of weapons at their disposal. Newton has a ton of talent but he needs to lead the Panthers to the playoffs this year or he just becomes an empty stat- .
I have my doubts about Kaep's longevity if the 49ers don't evolve their offense out of the pistol--which will eventually get your QB killed. He's got a great arm though. RG3 and RW's progress should be exciting to watch. EJ Manuel is raw, but uber-talented with a great at ude and work ethic.
EL DUHO, I have no idea how that happened. I meant Clemson, ya now how similiar Ohio State and Clemson are.
And RG3, Wilson, and Krappernick are still the only ones worth a damn from that list, with possibly Bridgewater turning into a star, tbh....
I really do see Manuel being a stud in a couple years, I don't see him making an instant impact however, few rookies do.
I'll just say it...Geno looks stupid.
You look at the Panthers from a stat perspective...offense-12 ranked, defense-10 they should be doing better than they do. Yep, make or break year for Newton.
Vick sucks, not sure what to think about Freeman.
If Kap or anyone running the read option does it smartly it will work, as we all know QB vs badass defender is like bug vs windsheild.
Newton is in his third season, you have any idea what some of the legends looked like with just two seasons of experience?
I wonder if Black QBs pray to God, or to Doug Williams? Legit question at this point.
Since Williams played before most of these guys were born, I do doubt it. I'm sure some of them have never heard of Doug Williams.
He had one of the strongest arms ever seen in the NFL, and like Warren Moon really wasn't all that nifty fleet of foot. Yep, they played more like a white QB.
You would figure by 2013 people wouldnt be classifying people by race.
EJ Manuel is up and down. He is extremely raw at this point, if the Bills give him a couple years before they throw him on the field then he could be good.
Waiting in the wings- Boyd is ever improving, Bridgewater is extremely over rated. Why in the heck are people even talking about Thomas? No Stephen Morris? Not black enough for you?
Let's talk about that.
There is no reason in the world to play silly ass games. That's why the NFL doesn't. That's why the NCAA doesn't. They know where the black players are and go get them. Nobody is going to be playing..."what's race have to do with anything"....when it's very very obvious there is a monstrous difference when it comes to speed and quicks between black athletes and everyone else. That's why NFL and college coachs camp out in Florida, Texas and Cali, that's where the black players are at.
I'm a track fan first and a football fan second, if I started rattling off just how ...HUGE... a difference we see there between the black athletes and the white ones you'd think I was making it up it's that ridiculous. The short example...only one white sprinter has ever ran a sub10.00 and no Asian has ever doine it, the tiny island of Trinidad has had three sub10.00 sprinters, Nigeria about a dozen, Jamaica a ton. The fastest white guy ever here in the USA was Kevin Little he ran a 10.13. Black high school kids are running faster. Race is huge when it comes to football because of the speed/quicks of the game, ok?
Give me the names of white cornerbacks in the NFL.
I agree with you on Manuel, yep, will take some time. How is Brigewater over rated? The size thing with Thomas. I didn't know Morris was black.
Speed and the NFL, everyone listed below is an Afro American
100 meters
10.01 - Jacoby Ford (WR, Clemson - Oakland Raiders, 23 g)
10.06 - Bob Hayes (WR, Florida A&M - Dallas/San Fran, Hall of Fame)
10.06 - Ron Brown (WR, Arizona St - LA Rams/Raiders, 100 g)
10.07 - Alvis Whitted (WR, NC State - Jacksonville/Oakland, 122 g)
10.08 - Darrell Green (CB, Texas A&I - Washington Redskins, Hall of Fame)
10.09 - Sam Graddy (WR, Tennessee - Denver/LA Raiders, 43 g)
10.10 - Willie Gault (WR, Tennessee - Chicago/LA Raiders, 170 g)
10.11 - Mike Miller (WR, Tennessee - NY Giants/New Orleans, 16 g)
10.11 - Curtis ey (RB, Texas A&M - Balt/Ind/Clev, 85 g)
10.14 - James Trapp (CB, Clemson - Raiders/Balt/Jkv, 149 g)
hand timing:
10.0 - Cliff Branch (WR, Colorado - Oakland/LA Raiders, 4 Pro Bowls)
Other notables
10.01 - Jeff Demps (RB, Florida - ?)
10.23 - Herschel Walker (RB, Georgia - 6 teams, 2 Pro Bowls)
10.26 - Deion Sanders (CB/WR, Florida St - 5 teams, Hall of Fame)
10.44 - Bo Jackson (RB, Auburn - LA Raiders, 1 Pro Bowl)
10.3h - O.J. Simpson (RB, USC – Buffalo/San Fran, Hall of Fame)
Now add...
Trindon Holliday...10.00
Andrew Hopkins...9.2
Willie McGee...9.1WR
Henry Carr...9.3
Mel Gray...9.2
Isacc Curtis...9.3
J.D.Hill...9.3
Travis Williams...9.3
James Jett..10.16
Phil Epps...10.19
Jamaal Charles...10.18
Michael Bennett...10.18
Tons and tons at 9.4/10.4ish.
The fastest white player ever was John Roderick out of SMU with a 9.3. Then there was Tim Dwight at 10.33, and that's about it.
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Avante is a huge racist. He just doesn't know it.
My best friend and best man at my wedding is black. I should have been black, being I was a sprinter/running back, dancer and have way too much soul for a white guy. If I died and could come back as anything I wanted, yep...black. So as usual you are wrong.
When it comes to speed we are suppose to ignore real life, why? Who is that great white NFL running back playing today? You wanna see the list of the fastest 40's ever, not a white guy in sight.
Fastest 40 Yard Dash Times in NFL History
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Statistic Verification Source: NFL Research Date: 2.26.2013 The 40 yard dash has long been a way of evaluating the speed of football players by scouts for the NFL Draft. The origin comes from the average distance of a punt being 40 yards. Since 2000 players runners have been clocked using a laser. Prior to 2000 a human operated stop watch was used and thus times have been scrutinized.
The following list is for the fastest times since the implementation of electronic timing in 2000 Player Year Position Time Chris Johnson 2008 RB 4.24 Marquise Goodwin 2013 WR 4.27 Jerome Mathis 2005 WR 4.28 Jacoby Ford 2010 WR 4.28 DeMarcus Van 2011 CB 4.28 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie 2008 CB 4.29 Stanford Routt 2005 CB 4.29 Trindon Holliday 2010 WR 4.29 Fabian Washington 2005 CB 4.29 Darrius Heyward-Bey 2009 WR 4.30 Yamon Figurs 2007 WR 4.30 Darrent Williams 2005 CB 4.30 Tye Hill 2006 CB 4.30 Tyvon Branch 2008 CB 4.31 Justin King 2008 CB 4.31 Jonathan Joseph 2006 CB 4.31 Aaron Lockett 2002 WR 4.31 Santana Moss 2001 WR 4.31
The NFL is well aware of this, so what do you think they do, yep...look for black athletes.
Last edited by Avante; 06-09-2013 at 11:19 AM.
Why must you label them as black athletes. They are all just athletes. Your mind seems to be stuck in some weird twisted version of Glory of Road.
Didnt know Morris was black so you didnt list him? wow... just wow. Why? Because he doesnt run around like a chicken with his head cut off every time he drops back?
I would hope by this time people wouldnt worry so much about race.
Tell that to...
Grambling
Jackson State
Hampton
Morgan State
South Carolina State
Alcorn
Tuskegge Ins ute
Southern U
Maryland Eastern Shore
Texas Southern
Prairie View
Alabama A&M
Tennessee State
North Carolina Central
Norfolk State
St Augustine
Howard
Mississippi Valley State
Which gave the NFL...
Doug Williams
Steve Mcnair
Hall of Famers
Walter Payton
Jerry Rice
Deacon Jones
Willie Brown
Charlie Joiner
Buck Buchanon
Leroy Kelly
Shannon Sharpe
What is Doug Williams known for, yep...only black QB to win a Superbowl...right, so why do we need to know that? Why do we need to be told that Christophe LeMaitre is the onlt white sprinter to ever run a sub10.00 (France). Why are we told George "Little Chocolate" Dixon was the first black to hold a boxing world record? Why do we hear about Obama being the first black president?
Ever heard of EBONY magazine, how about the BET network? You have heard of Motown, right? How about SOUL TRAIN?
What planet do you live on?
Who cares what color a QB or any player is, as long as he can play and be productive. None of those guys listed in the OM are elite (yet), and most of them will not end up starting throughout their career or be franchise type HOF players. Just like most of the current white QBs in the league.
This is a passing league now and will always be one. A guy who can pass for around 4500yds and 30+ TDs, 90.0 or so QB rtg, on the reg, and play big time will always be more highly valued. That is the wow factor. Now if a guy can do that AND can run like RG3, Vick, Kap, or Cam, then more power to him, and watch out NFL. You can't just be a QB who relies on his feet and escapability. You'll get killed. You have to be able to pick apart a defense.
Big freaking deal if there are more White QBs than Black ones, just like big freaking deal there are more (way more) Black RBs than White RBs. It is what it is.
Reverse racist is still racistMy best friend and best man at my wedding is black. I should have been black, being I was a sprinter/running back, dancer and have way too much soul for a white guy. If I died and could come back as anything I wanted, yep...black. So as usual you are wrong.
When it comes to speed we are suppose to ignore real life, why? Who is that great white NFL running back playing today? You wanna see the list of the fastest 40's ever, not a white guy in sight.
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Statistic Verification Source: NFL Research Date: 2.26.2013 The 40 yard dash has long been a way of evaluating the speed of football players by scouts for the NFL Draft. The origin comes from the average distance of a punt being 40 yards. Since 2000 players runners have been clocked using a laser. Prior to 2000 a human operated stop watch was used and thus times have been scrutinized.
The following list is for the fastest times since the implementation of electronic timing in 2000 Player Year Position Time Chris Johnson 2008 RB 4.24 Marquise Goodwin 2013 WR 4.27 Jerome Mathis 2005 WR 4.28 Jacoby Ford 2010 WR 4.28 DeMarcus Van 2011 CB 4.28 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie 2008 CB 4.29 Stanford Routt 2005 CB 4.29 Trindon Holliday 2010 WR 4.29 Fabian Washington 2005 CB 4.29 Darrius Heyward-Bey 2009 WR 4.30 Yamon Figurs 2007 WR 4.30 Darrent Williams 2005 CB 4.30 Tye Hill 2006 CB 4.30 Tyvon Branch 2008 CB 4.31 Justin King 2008 CB 4.31 Jonathan Joseph 2006 CB 4.31 Aaron Lockett 2002 WR 4.31 Santana Moss 2001 WR 4.31
The NFL is well aware of this, so what do you think they do, yep...look for black athletes.
Tell that to recruiters at all levels of football.
So we pretend we are the same, right?
Watch the NBA finals and tell me what do we see?
What recruiters do u talk to?
I want names.
I'm not pretending anything. You just need to embrace the fact that you're a racist.
I admit I am to the point where I fall for some stereotypes like Blacks are better dancers and athletes on the whole.
Your level of racism is off the charts though. If Hitler were black, there's no doubt in my mind you'd be a goose stepper (fried chicken stepper for the racists)
I grew up running track and playing football, what do you think I figured out at an early age? Come on man cool the bull . You know as well as anyone who isn't blind what's really going on, to act re ed over this, why?
Give me the names of that white speed receiver in NFL history, that speed white running back, that speed cornerback, put up or shut up. Now you will come back with some more crap totally ignoring that question.
Us white folks simply don't have that other gear that elusiveness. We all know it so why play pretend?
How about opening your eyes and looking at the real world we live in, ok?
Now add..Barry Sanders, Gale Sayers, Eric erson, Adrian Peterson, Tony Dorsett, Bo Jackson and on and on and on and on and on.........
Last edited by Avante; 06-09-2013 at 12:52 PM.
I feel like in some twisted way Avante really just feels like they are better only because they are Black. Avante is the kind of person that keeps racial stereotypes alive for no reason.
Well then explain to me why no Asian has ever ran a sub10.00 while tons and tons of blacl sprinters have? Why only one white sprinter has ever turned the trick? How come we never see a great white running back with some speed and agility. Go ahead explain that to me.
Nigeria is totally ed up, their track programs totally suck yet that poor nation has had a dozen or so sub10.00 sprinters. How many Chinese do we have, why no sub10.00 sprinters ever. Go ahead explain that to me.
You do know science has proven there is a difference in the physiques, right? Want me to link you to that study?
Last edited by Avante; 06-09-2013 at 01:20 PM.
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