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Yep, and the Suns in 2005 probably had twice the shooters that the current Heat do.
They over did it in the 2nd half and the offense was garbage.. I'm upset right now but we played crappy these two games for different reasons and tonight it cost us.
Yep, and the Suns in 2005 probably had twice the shooters that the current Heat do.
This is why Pop makes 6mm/yr. Heat shot 53% from 3 and 51% overall. Got to get those %s down.
Plus, you're basketball blind if you can't see Bron and Wade are wearing down after the 3rd year in the finals and carrying a team. Wade just shows it a little more. Bosh decided to shoot Jumpers.
How is it broken when LeBron just had two of his worst games of the last two years? The Spurs held Miami's offense in check in Game 1 and the Heat were at 61 points with 15 minutes remaining tonight.
Even with the Heat raining down threes and getting about eight minutes of garbage time, they still only scored 102 points.
I'm much more worried about the offense, tbh. Will the Heat's role players shoot as straight on the road? We'll see but I'd rather find that out then to have LeBron explode.
This isn't Amare, this is the best perimeter player since MJ.
He's getting tired. Bron: Get me out coach, let green take him baseline, green blocks his shot, can't finish uncontested layups.
It may not be broken, but it was never going to be sustainable. Hoping great and very good three point shooters (who are due for progression to the mean) are going to continue to miss wide open threes, is just plain stupid. The fact that they mostly got away with it in the first 81 minutes of the series doesn't change that.
LeBron is tired because the Spurs are making him go 1 on 3 (and sometimes 4) when he gets the ball on offense. You let him go Amare and he won't sweat.
I think a mixture of coverages would be nice, ala what Phil used to do with Timmy back in the day. Let him go wild then all of a sudden start throwing double teams at him in the second half when the role players aren't in rhythm.
Honestly, I'm not sure, and I agree with your post to an extent, but even in Game 1 Miami shot a great percentage. The Heat's shooters have proven that they'll hit wide open 3s, so why tempt it?
I think our biggest issue is idiot perimeter players ball watching and sagging off of their man too much (Neal, Manu, and Tony especially).
It's broken thanks to the easy looks from 3 the Heat's shooters received. LeBron is a great passer and easily finds open shooters every time when the Spurs send help. This happened some in Game 1 also, the Spurs won that game largely because of only committing 4 turnovers (versus 16 tonight). 102 points is too many for Spurs championship basketball in my opinion.
Yes, LeBron isn't Amare. Although his jump shot has improved since 2007, it still isn't always reliable, and I think he still has a greater influence on a game when he is able to get others involved. Therefore, I'd live with a 40 pt game from LeBron if it means his shooters have to step out of their comfort zone a little bit and put the ball on the floor.
As was already mentioned previously, LeBron lost a series where he averaged 39.
Of course it would make him sweat. A player expends alot of energy making those over-the-top, razzle-dazzle dunks he likes to throw down and then have to go back on defense to defend TP, one of the fastest players in the league. On that note, people aren't saying they should give him the red carpet treatment, but make him work hard down low and if it means free throw attempts and/or and ones, then so be it. But that's much more preferrable than giving Miller and Allen get all the shots they want from the perimeter. Stay home on the shooters and that will cut down on their smooth ball movement.
Kawhi is making him work even when he has no help. Mix-up the coverages.
I would definitely not change the strategy for the first half of game 3. I want to see if Miami's roll players can replicate the success they've had thus far in this series on the road. Game 3 is a huge game for both teams, and I'd rather have Mike Miller and Mario Chalmers shooting than Lebron James. If they knock down shots in the first half, I would consider sending less help.
It's a gamble I would rather not take. It doesn't have to be black and white. The Spurs can mix some zone in there to confuse them. Again we don't even yet know that Kawhi's individual defense isn't good enough against Lebron. If we force Lebron to shoot maybe he shoots very inefficiently with Kawhi's length bothering him.
Stop leaving shooters wide open. This was like regular season defense. Horrible and would lose 9/10 games.
First post on spurs talk here...
Does anyone remember how the pacers played D on lebron? Was it straight up? Because ray and MM stunk it up for the most part of that series.
James is going to do what he does. Sending help on him is pretty much ing our defense up. Notice how the switches and rotations turn into mismatches? Pop needs to let James go. Either he gets his or they keep bombing from long range. OP is right here.
Vogel played Lebron straight-up, but made the Lebron in the post adjustment. I didn't watch every game but I think Indiana mixed-up the D from there.
i agree with timvp, echoing my comments in other threads. our D is fine, and actually had us in this game deep into the third, but our offense hit the crapper, and turnovers led to either transition buckets, or mismatches due to forced switches when they push the pace. parker, ginobili, duncan, leonard all strugged offensively in different ways
Fools Gold, Spurs shooting 80% from 3 had us close.
I would help a little less, but the primary concern is the offense only having 16 assists in back to back games. Ball movement hasn't been as good.
I hate the small ball sets with Kawhi at PF though. The Heat force you to match up weird, but I'd rather have Splitter/Diaw out there and be slow rather than Neal helping off. Our small sets seem to hurt both D and O, as we run a lot of screen action and having 2 bigs helps that work better.
I see. Yea I remember at the end of game 2 against the pacers, paul george just backed off of lebron daring him to shoot. It seemed to confuse lebron for two possessions in a row causing two TO's. Maybe we can try that and have Kawhi back off of him with everyone else staying with the shooters. Now if he hits his fadeaways like he did against the celts in game 6 a year ago, I guess there's not much you can do.
The formula is to beat the crap out of him when Wade and Cole are on the floor and dare him to shoot when Allen and Miller are on the floor.
I'ma hafta go with Young Hus on this one, as much as it pains me to say it. Daring LeBron to go ape on you should be the last viable option. He's not the mentally fragile player of 2011 anymore...dude is a stone-cold killer now and is just waiting to activate Godmode. Keep him as a distributor and hope like the 3's aren't falling--besides, defensive rotations are something that can be remedied mid-series, especially with Leatherface at the helm.
We got to play Lebron like we played Steph Curry. Unlike Steph Curry he's looking to drive more. But the same principles apply. Help on him with the bigs but don't overhelp and give the shooters air space. We were getting killed by the Warriors shooters till we cleaned up the help defense.
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