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Umm, big 3 are 10/33 with 8 turnovers. It's on them, and them alone. Bad day for all of em.
you Pop, you ing idiot.
Umm, big 3 are 10/33 with 8 turnovers. It's on them, and them alone. Bad day for all of em.
Changing the le what a gay ass move tbh.
Definitely on the Big 3 tonight. That being said, Gary Neal was total fools gold in the first half. He had 2 good shots and a ton of defense and a few really bad shots. Its just been absolutely terrible in the 2nd half.
Pop is making a huge mistake not playing Corey Joseph. Playing Gary Neal this much is not worth the few good shots you get here and there when the D is so god damn bad and the bad shots are factored in.
It was Neal, it was his horrible defense that literally lead to Miami's run, before that run Miami was exhausted and their legs were gone. Once they went on that run, they found their second wind and it will continue in game 3.
Splitman4evah did you watch the ing game? Neal left his man open all the ing time. Pop for still pursuing for it.
Neal must have a naked photo of Pop or sex scandal, can't believe this is happening in the ing finals.
Its not even all of Neal's fault. He's playing the same type of scheme the other wing players are. The difference is that he's smaller than the others and he's also slower so his recovery is not nearly the same as Danny Green. It doesn't matter but Pop is putting him in a position to fail.
Lets be real though. Tonight Tony got no help from Manu and Tim (offensively) and that is the reason why tonight happened.
Knew the Spurs were screwed once Neal was given the backup PG role. No surprise we looked like a ty defensive team when Neal was given that role.
I never understand Neal trying to play help defense. I've never seen him actually help the defense. He's better of just sticking with his man.
notice their large run started when gary neal came in. constantly gets lost on defense and pop leaves him in till they go up lyk 25. disgusting tbh.......... Miami played really really physical this game and the spurs weren't ready for it. Manu wuz a joke. Chris Anderson looks like shaq in 2000, Chalmers scrub ass lookin lyk Russel westbrook. This game wuz a big disappointment cuz they were in it till lyk 5 minutes left in the 3rd, then just LAYED DOWN.
This is like Miami blaming game 1 loss on Norris Cole, it's so ridiculous and childish to think the reason we lost was Gary Neal. We were up a point with 3 minutes to go in the 3rd with none of the most important scorers contributing. Big 3 plus Leonard were 13/45=29% with 9 turnovers and people want to complain about Neal. Just so stupid, you people are insufferable if you actually think this way.
Neal
This x100
Timmy struggled offensively tonight. He should've been more agressive.
It was painful tonight. I still dont get the logic. Shooting hasnt been there, and the D, well...
If its the ball-handling Pop wants, CoJo is better even against the Heat. If its streaky shooting, play Danny more.
Pop is one the podium. Someone should ask him about why he played Neal so long.
The shots just didn't go in...theirs did
-Pop
Yes and neal left left his man for 3 straight possessions after that. You yourself said that we had the lead and control, thus negating the ty effort of the big 3 then Gary Neal happened. You just contradicted yourself you idiot.
With about 3 minutes left in the 3rd quarter, Manu made a brilliant pass to Duncan deep in the post for a dunk to put the spurs up by 3. It felt like the spurs were starting to solve the heat defense. Then it all unravelled from there. Thanks, in part to Gary Neal. Not everything was Gary's fault, but he was a major culprit IMHO.
Next heat possession Neal shades Chalmers (a right handed player) to go right (which would be natural for him to do). There is also no help defense in that direction. Neal should have been routing Chalmers to the middle where the help was (Duncan and Diaw). Since Neal is basically just giving him his right hand and an open alley to the rim, James recognizes this and sets a screen for Chalmers who promptly scores an AND-1 (Green was hesitant to fully commit to the switch and leave James, gets his 3rd foul in the process).
Next spurs possession Manu sends a crisp on target pass to Neal at the top of the key, hits him practically right between the numbers and the ball squirts right through his hands out of bounds. Turnover.
After Ginobili gets stripped on dribble penetration the heat get a 4 on 2 with James leading the way. Neal initially stops the James' penetration and he kicks it out to Chalmers. Instead of going out to contest Chalmers (or Allen or Miller) out on the perimeter Neal basically sits next to the rim (for what purpose I have no clue). Chalmers could have buried the 3, instead he kicks to Allen who is also wide open, splash. Neal sits under the basket the entire time. Apparently he was waiting for a long rebound or something.
After Duncan misses a bad fadeaway, Chalmers & James run another P&R that nets James a layup. Not much the spurs could have done, it was executed to perfection and Duncan was late in helping. Neal was on the other side, so wasn't his fault on this possession.
Duncan finally makes an aggressive move in the post on Birdman, resulting in free throws. Leonard corrals Ducan's 2nd miss and Parker makes a floater to pull the spurs back to a reasonable 4 pt defecit.
Gary Neal then does what Gary Neal does on a regular basis.. leave 3pt shooters open. Caught trying to help from the weakside on a James P&R (not sure what help he would have been anyway) he leaves a wide open Mike Miller whom James promptly finds for 3. Splash.
After a terrible miscommunication turnover by Duncan and Ginobili on an out of bounds throw in, Chalmers again is given his right hand (this time by Parker) and the heat capitalize promptly with a James' screen (hardly needs to even set a good one the way Parker was shading him). Chalmers gets into the paint easily with only Leonard as a help defender. Leonard meekly fouls him (?) on the arm instead of blocking his shot (which he could have easily done, IMO). At this point I have to question what the strategy on Chalmers is.. apparently Pop is a secret Chalmers fan because he seems to want to make things easy for him.
4th quarter starts spurs down 10, and with a Gary Neal turnover trying to make a pass on the baseline. Which just outlines that his ball handling is not good enough against a swarming defense like the heat and he should not be playing in this series. A bigger player like McGrady who can make a pass over a defender might have helped, or one with better handles (like Mills or CoJo). Why does Pop have these guys on the roster if he never uses them?
On the next James-Chalmers P&R it seems something was said because Parker is finally shading Chalmers to his left (like he should). He goes that way, Leonard switches but again is reluctant to contest the shot (just lets him shoot an easy 5 footer with no contest). Is this because he is not supposed to be switched onto Chalmers? Has Pop told him to stay with James on those P&R? The heat feasted with this all night and the spurs need a game plan to slow it down going forward into game 3.
give me a tldr version tbh.With about 3 minutes left in the 3rd quarter, Manu made a brilliant pass to Duncan deep in the post for a dunk to put the spurs up by 3. It felt like the spurs were starting to solve the heat defense. Then it all unravelled from there. Thanks, in part to Gary Neal. Not everything was Gary's fault, but he was a major culprit IMHO.
Next heat possession Neal shades Chalmers (a right handed player) to go right (which would be natural for him to do). There is also no help defense in that direction. Neal should have been routing Chalmers to the middle where the help was (Duncan and Diaw). Since Neal is basically just giving him his right hand and an open alley to the rim, James recognizes this and sets a screen for Chalmers who promptly scores an AND-1 (Green was hesitant to fully commit to the switch and leave James, gets his 3rd foul in the process).
Next spurs possession Manu sends a crisp on target pass to Neal at the top of the key, hits him practically right between the numbers and the ball squirts right through his hands out of bounds. Turnover.
After Ginobili gets stripped on dribble penetration the heat get a 4 on 2 with James leading the way. Neal initially stops the James' penetration and he kicks it out to Chalmers. Instead of going out to contest Chalmers (or Allen or Miller) out on the perimeter Neal basically sits next to the rim (for what purpose I have no clue). Chalmers could have buried the 3, instead he kicks to Allen who is also wide open, splash. Neal sits under the basket the entire time. Apparently he was waiting for a long rebound or something.
After Duncan misses a bad fadeaway, Chalmers & James run another P&R that nets James a layup. Not much the spurs could have done, it was executed to perfection and Duncan was late in helping. Neal was on the other side, so wasn't his fault on this possession.
Duncan finally makes an aggressive move in the post on Birdman, resulting in free throws. Leonard corrals Ducan's 2nd miss and Parker makes a floater to pull the spurs back to a reasonable 4 pt defecit.
Gary Neal then does what Gary Neal does on a regular basis.. leave 3pt shooters open. Caught trying to help from the weakside on a James P&R (not sure what help he would have been anyway) he leaves a wide open Mike Miller whom James promptly finds for 3. Splash.
After a terrible miscommunication turnover by Duncan and Ginobili on an out of bounds throw in, Chalmers again is given his right hand (this time by Parker) and the heat capitalize promptly with a James' screen (hardly needs to even set a good one the way Parker was shading him). Chalmers gets into the paint easily with only Leonard as a help defender. Leonard meekly fouls him (?) on the arm instead of blocking his shot (which he could have easily done, IMO). At this point I have to question what the strategy on Chalmers is.. apparently Pop is a secret Chalmers fan because he seems to want to make things easy for him.
4th quarter starts spurs down 10, and with a Gary Neal turnover trying to make a pass on the baseline. Which just outlines that his ball handling is not good enough against a swarming defense like the heat and he should not be playing in this series. A bigger player like McGrady who can make a pass over a defender might have helped, or one with better handles (like Mills or CoJo). Why does Pop have these guys on the roster if he never uses them?
On the next James-Chalmers P&R it seems something was said because Parker is finally shading Chalmers to his left (like he should). He goes that way, Leonard switches but again is reluctant to contest the shot (just lets him shoot an easy 5 footer with no contest). Is this because he is not supposed to be switched onto Chalmers? Has Pop told him to stay with James on those P&R? The heat feasted with this all night and the spurs need a game plan to slow it down going forward into game 3.
Short version:
Neal's weaknesses play right into the heat's hands. He should be on the bench this series. Any of Cojo, Mills, McGrady, (or even Nando) would be better options than him. I've only been essentially saying this all year long, feel like a broken record. I knew the dog and pony show over the backup point guard position that lasted all freakin' year long was just for Pop's own mad scientist amusement.. and that Pop would just end up using Gary Neal when it mattered. I was right.
Also, the spurs seemed confused on the Chalmers-James P&R, not sure what to do, even after they got burned 4 or 5 times. Even if there is nothing the spurs can do to stop it 100%, they need a gameplan to at least slow it down. It seemed they didn't have one (that's on Pop).
Pop won't do it again, I guess you could say it worked game 1, but we know this is a game of adjustments, and the Heat made them.. Pop will switch things up for Game 3.
Cosigned.
And that PnR seems deadlier because wing players leave their men open in the corners tbh.
Chamlmers and the Heat sure seemed intent on attacking the Spurs main weak-link.
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