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please start a thread of the critical game 5
Let's pretend the 20 turnovers that absolutely killed us had nothing do with losing this game...
Easier to about Manu than playing poorly... I get it...
please start a thread of the critical game 5
Manu was terrible...end of story
Manu needs to shoot more... that criticism is valid, IMO...
ok
Pretty liberal use of the word "ok"
The two are not mutually exclusive by any means tbh...I don't see any rational fans blaming solely Manu for the loss. The acknowledgment that he was ing horrendous doesn't mean the Spurs weren't careless, their wasn't defesnse lax at times, Tiago wasn't a pussy, and the Spurs didn't find Duncan enough in the post...
jessus christ
Spurs had 20 turnovers and not all of them are forced. The last minutes, why wasn't Green and Neal in to at least take 3 pointers. A couple of 3's and the momentum could be on the Spurs way. Miami capitalizes on turnovers. We gave them too much offensive rebounds and they don't even have a true big. Boxout and let Kawhi rebound. Spurs need to be hungry. Go Spurs Go!
If Manu played an "ok" game then Kobe's Game 7 against Boston is GOAT-worthy
Dude was trash. Straight up trash. Fans at the game didn't even cheer in the 2nd half when he was subbed in. There was an awkward silence over the entire crowd because its painfully obvious he's a deteriment to the team. Gary Neal bring more to the table at this point.
This isn't about his numbers, but what he produces for the team... as DPG said, if Splitter finishes those dunks, Manu only has 3 more assists, but big picture is the Spurs have 6 more points, which in a tight game (and this was a tight game all the way to the 3rd quarter) is huge. He doesn't have to score the ball to produce. He produced "ok" today by what the Spurs need for him...
But seeing Tony can't play for more than a half, he's going to have to do more himself on the scoring department...
The ing goods
If we're going to win this series we need Manu to play well. Not great...just effective at both ends and with an impact on the game. My bet is that Manu will be in the starting lineup on Sunday to match up with Miller. Last year on games 5 and 6 of WCF he was in the starting lineup and scored 34 and 18 points. By starting him, he'll get his rhythm early and establish his confidence.
That might work, but we really don't have a backup PG... especially if Tony needs to keep playing limited minutes...
Even if we accept that his main problem was not doing anything offensively....he was still horrible using that standard. Just because he was 'denied' of 3 potential assists by a pussy (even though this happens in every game to players) doesn't mean he did anything ok.
If he needs to score more, fine (I don't believe he capable of doing so, imo). But he didn't - and he was horrible.
This thread is hilarious. 5pts on 20% is bad for Joseph let alone a member of the big three.
This thread is hilarious. 5pts on 20% is bad for Joseph let alone a member of the big three.
even though I think ElNono is absolutely wrong in his defense of Manu, in a weird way I admire him for doubling down on the. is a believer in Manu til the end.
That's what he's been doing all season for the team that's in the NBA Finals... I'd say the Spurs know exactly what they need from him and he's been giving the team just that.
He needs to score more because of a special situation (Tony being hurt). I don't know if he can or not, but the only way he's going to be able to do it in this particular series is simply shooting more. Miami doubles him up when he handles the rock, so he ain't going to be driving, unless he plays actual SG instead of PG.
He's not without blame... as I explained in the OP. And the Spurs will need more from him with Tony being down from here on out.even though I think ElNono is absolutely wrong in his defense of Manu, in a weird way I admire him doubling down on the
It's actually debatable the Spurs can pull this series off with Tony hurt as it is.
But this game was lost on the 20 turnovers... and this is one of those very rare games where Manu only had one. So I know it's easy to pile on, but this game was lost somewhere else, tbh...
Manu produced a loss tonight. -22 +/-. Nobody else was even close to that.
We won the part of the game he didn't play.
dude he was beyond terrible. the sooner you accept it, the sooner you will be relieved of this stress on you
anyway good luck bro, seem like you really need it
TP has nothing to do with Manu's numbers. If TP had the best series of his life, it wouldn't be good enough with Manu's terrible averages/play this series.
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