Blaming Manu for this loss is about as stupid as giving him credit for winning that game against Memphis. Is that what you're saying? He's only like what, the second highest paid player on this team? Every one makes decision mistakes, no problem. I'm going to start calling him "fumbles"? This team can still win in spite of him, I guess. Maybe he'll get a last shot op(he tries to make sure of that) and be the savior. He reminds me of a grandpa that cannot remember which hand to wipe his ass with, even after 70 years of using his left. There is about 9 Spurs that didn't play well enough, or maybe they're just not good enough? The Heat covered the perimeter and proved tonight that the Spurs do not have adequate inside game to beat them. I think it's gonna be Parker, Green, Leonard and Neal, or nothing.
Bottom line, the Spurs were up 2-1 in the NBA Finals with Manu giving the numbers he's been giving all season.
Tony got hurt, so you expect the vets in Manu and TD to step up their games. Manu did not today, he wasn't aggressive enough. That's going to have to change if Tony is gonna remain hobbled from here on out.
The rest of his game was ok. He created for other players, was not a liability on defense, etc.
drives me nuts when Manu makes long crosscourt passes to people in bad positions. Can't count how many times I have seen Manu throw the ball to Neal in the corner when he had nowhere to go with it, and even worse throwing it too high so that Neal would have to jump to catch them. He made some nice passes today, but is way too wild to be running the offense when Parker is on the bench. Not really sure what the answer is other than hope Parker can play 42-45 quality minutes Sunday.
The funniest part of the thread is as usual.
As usual is Manu is god and Parker sucks, this is what usual means in ST forum.
He's the highest paid Spur until the end of the season.
I don't get it. Manu is part of the famous "big 3"
Parker is hurt
so Duncan and Manu need to step up
how is 5pts 4 fouls and 1to "stepping up"
how can possibly be called an "ok" game?????
if someone needs to be blamed its the one in the big 3 that completely failed. Manu Ginobili.
I just don't get how ppl cannot see this
I missed where anybody is dragging Tony down in this thread, tbh... I'm rooting 100% for him to be healthy Sunday... I'm skeptical we have a shot regardless of how Manu plays if Tony isn't healthy...The funniest part of the thread is as usual
As usual is Manu is god and Parker sucks, this is what usual means in ST forum.
"regardless of how manu plays"
see that's where your homerism is kicking in and badly
Manu needs to have a very good game for Spurs to have a shot. Manu has an ok game or worse and Spurs lose.
Wake up
Same as it ever was, there are Spurs fans, and there's the Manu fanbois.
Did Manufan ever imagine at any point that their precious idol would be so severely outplayed in the finals by Ray ing Allen?
Really? He was OK? You think that Manu is OK? REALLY?
Holy . THAT Manu needs to retire. That is not big 3 worthy in the least.
Also, those passes to Tiago may not be turnovers for Manu but they might as well be. Just because you complete a pass to someone under the basket doesn't mean you just put them in a good position or that it was a good pass.
I'm still shocked you think that Manu was OK, though. Even if those are all assists its still a piss poor performance from a member of the big 3.
5 ing points
wow
ing horrid for real
For people that still don't get it:
Manu did what he normally does: he created for other players, he defended well, he didn't turn the ball over (that was all good)
He just wasn't aggressive enough (if he did, he would've had a 'great' game). That's certainly an area of criticism, and something he needs to step up from here on out.
That's at the personal level. This game was lost on the 20 turnovers, which Manu had very little to do with.
When you shoot 20%, it's not good to take more shots.
YOU don't get it. You're the only one that thinks that because Manu didn't have lots of turn overs on the stat sheet that he had an "OK" game. You're setting the bar lower than I'd set it for anyone on this team not named Corey Joseph.
The Spurs need Parker healthy and to stop turning the ball over . THAT is what's going to give the Spurs a shot.
Manu hasn't been Supermanu for a long time. He's just an above average sub at this stage. People needed to adjust expectations a long time ago.
Unfortunately some people didn't, and are hearthbroken now.
F that. I'm sticking with Manu. It ain't pretty at all right now. But f that. That's my boy right there. Game 5.
if you're talking about Manu post AllStar game. I agree. this is what he normally does. Although I think he averages way above 5pts.
still this is the Finals and this is vs the Heat. If you think Manu is OK with what he normally did post Alltar break, then you need some serious medication. We will get nowhere with what Manu normally did then. Nowhere.
Manu needs to step up like this is the Finals. Like Wade, Bosh and Lebron stepped up. He needs to step up. Or it's already over. Can you dig that?
He was actually 0-4 until garbage time. The percentage isn't really a problem (sure, i much rather he be 4-4) seeing he only took 4 shots, but the fact he only took 4 is the part that's gonna have to change. Especially when our #1 scorer is hobbled.
Post his averages for this series and tell me if its above average for anyone in the NBA.
not to mention Ray Allen raped the out of Manu. LOL he was ok and we will be fine as long as Parker is healthy
wow talk about delusional
He doesn't need to be Super Manu. No one is asking for 30 points. Well, no one is expecting that. But he was terrible out there tonight and he's been pretty terrible for the most part of the playoffs. Its not good enough to play a Corey Joseph or Gary Neal role. , Gary Neal and Danny Green got to the bucket way more than Manu did tonight. If thats what Manu is, then he just needs to retire.
LOL!!!!!!!
Which is exactly what I pointed out in the OP. He will need to score more. That's a valid criticism.
That doesn't undo the other stuff that he did well tonight.
Again, it's easy to focus on one guy, but the Spurs lost this game on the turnovers. If we're going to have 20 turnovers a game from here on out, we're going to see a lot of garbage time.
This is some Wild Cobra level rationalization from El Nono
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