Reply With Quote
Pretty much agree with everything, although I think Diaw should play more regardless, tbh..
It's game 5 of the Finals..minute limitations should no longer be an issue..
I didn't like Pop's defeatist at ude of coalescing 47 seconds into the game, but now that he predictably did and since one of the softest playoff runs in the history of the league continues from Splitter, it's time to change things up . . .
- Splitter, as I alluded to, is not for this series. He's not nearly a good enough rebounder to punish them on the glass, he's not nearly enough of a post up threat to punish them on the block, he's not punishing them on the roll, obviously is a non shooter and though in theory he's an ideal Bosh defender, now that they're playing with one big, Duncan has to defend him.
- That being said, in theory, he's their fifth best player and they need a backup center to at least somewhat contend with their assaults on the rim, so by default he should remain as Duncan's backup.
- Ginobili should replace him in the starting lineup. Again, for no other reason than by default.
- Joseph is also not for this series. The level of play is just too advanced for him and he serves no purpose out there. There is no offensive threat at the point for the Heat and Pop refuses to use him on Allen. Offensively, he's a non threat. Other than end of quarter defensive stands, every non blowout second he plays is a waste.
- Between Diaw/Bonner, flip a coin. Since Diaw actually played with some intensity tonight, he should be given first crack, but if he shows nothing in his initial stint, then Bonner should play in the second half. Neither should play much, though.
- Finally, Leonard, Green, Duncan and Parker, all need to be pushed to their max, as far as minutes are concerned. Leonard, in particular. Barring foul trouble, there is no reason why he can't match minutes with James, who has far more mileage and responsibility.
Pretty much agree with everything, although I think Diaw should play more regardless, tbh..
It's game 5 of the Finals..minute limitations should no longer be an issue..
People calls Splitter a pussy. 1 reason behind it: clogged paint. Splitter is soft, but he is a good finisher. However, Miami's defense is the reason why Splitter sucks.
As for Joseph, I call him "filler" in this series.
Boris on Lebron since he can't be pushed in the post and KY on Wade the true leader please.
With Diaw, the only way he should play more is if Ginobili is so unspeakably awful in his initial stint, that he takes some of his minutes. They can't afford to give him any of Parker's, Leonard's, Green's or Neal's minutes.
Diaw on James in the post would be great . . . except for the fact that James isn't stupid enough to bother posting him up, not when he knows he can damn near walk by him off the dribble.
That's exactly what Joseph is: filler. Every player they play, for every second they play, has to be able to give them something of value. I like the guy, but he has minimal talent and even less experience and has no business playing, other than the two instances I alluded to.
Agree. How do you manage your minutes from their on though?
I disagree with it being a coin flip. Timmy needs to get going and IMO, a passer like diaw would give that opportunity to timmy when he is fronting and diaw is used as the screen man.
I really hate the fact that Pop takes out Leonard and Parker after a five or six minute stretch, it kills their offensive rythem.
Agree. How do you manage your minutes from their on though?
I disagree with it being a coin flip. Timmy needs to get going and IMO, a passer like diaw would give that opportunity to timmy when he is fronting and diaw is used as the screen man.
I really hate the fact that Pop takes out Leonard and Parker after a five or six minute stretch, it kills their offensive rythem.
6 minute mark, 1st quarter: Neal in, Ginobili out.
4 minute mark, 1st quarter: Diaw in, Green out.
2 minute mark, 1st quarter: Ginobili, Splitter in, Parker, Duncan out.
11 minute mark, 2nd quarter: Green in, Leonard out.
10 minute mark, 2nd quarter: Parker in, Neal out.
9 minute mark, 2nd quarter: Duncan in, Splitter out.
8 minute mark, 2nd quarter: Leonard in, Diaw out.
7 minute mark, 2nd quarter: Neal in, Ginobili out.
3 minute mark, 2nd quarter: Ginobili in, Neal out.*
* This should only occur if Ginobili show a pulse.
2nd half, I'd mostly do the same thing, only I'd bring Parker, Duncan and Green back a minute earlier and I'd have Leonard play every second James does (barring foul trouble, of course).
So duncan should play 43mins?
Could not agree more... this is the ing Finals are you're 2 wins away from the le.
Starting line up for game 5 : TD,TP,Green,Kawi,Diaw, play T-Mac and Blair instead of Manu and Tigao
I take it math isn't one of your strengths?
If he sits for 5 first half minutes and 4 second half minutes and the game is 48 minutes long (barring overtime, of course), then that would mean he'd end up playing 39 minutes.
Look, this is all roughly speaking. Obviously, you've got to manage the game. But as long as it's relatively equal throughout, the players perform to about what we've become accustomed to and foul trouble doesn't occur, then this should be the rotation.
It's funny though. All the talk about "putting something in the bank for later" and how this will pay off down the line and yet, here we are, at the exact point caution should be thrown to the wind and he's still ing around, only to a lesser extent. Leonard, who was never in foul trouble tonight, would have played 37 minutes (Duncan too) had the game been compe ive until the end. Parker would have played 36. Is it about trying to win or trying to see what you can get away with?
T-Mac should get some minutes for Tiago, going small is okay if you have people that can pass the ball..
Sarcastic golf clap.
Yeah, I mean theoretically I'd want Pop to try to force the Heat to adjust to Duncan/Splitter -- but it's just not going to happen. Mike Miller can defend Splitter in the post without a problem. Splitter can't rebound over anyone right now -- for some unknown reason. And now with Wade back at the top of his game, you can't ignite him in Game 5 by putting Splitter on him to start the game. So, yeah, Splitter has to come off the bench.
Who do you start?
-Diaw makes some sense because he allows you to stay relatively big while his mobility should allow him to not get killed against Wade. (Maybe you can start Diaw on Miller and see if he can hang all the way out there.)
-Neal makes some sense and would make the matchups natural.
-But I think I'm with the idea that it should be Ginobili. Usually I'd be worried about putting Ginobili in the starting lineup because it'd take away the spark from the bench -- but Manu can't spark the bench against the Heat. They're traps are murdering him. Play him in the starting lineup and see if he can succeed being a finisher rather than a creator.
If you start Ginobili then you just have to hope Neal has a big game as the bench scorer -- which isn't out of the question.
Splitter backs up TD.
With Ginobili unable to create, I think Diaw is a better answer since he can create more than Bonner.
Two good things about Game 5: 1) the two day break should allow Pop to go all out minutes-wise 2) the Spurs might be able to catch the Heat off guard depending on which way they go with their adjustments
Actually its my strenght but read it on the iphone, must have seen something wrong
First benefactor offers a truce, now timvp agrees with me . . . what's next, Bruno agreeing with me?
Diaw on Wade would be a terrible idea. Who knows whether Wade can come close to repeating that, but now that he's shown that he still can get to that level, why increase the chance of it happening again? The match-ups should be as follows: Parker on Chalmers, Green on Wade, Ginobili on Miller, Leonard on James, Duncan on Bosh.
Good point about Diaw's play making coming in handy if Ginobili starts. Although, at least one of Parker or Ginobili should be in at all times anyway, but still. I think the message was sent with him being benched in game 3, so I'd lean towards him playing with a reasonable amount of aggression/intensity from here on out, though you never quite know with him.
Kawhi has had a great showing in this series-- I think he needs to play as much as possible. He's 21 years old, and there are, at most, 3 games left in the season. If D Wade can play 40 minutes with a sore knee, Kawhi can play more than 33.
At first I was like, " this guy can think". Then comes...
I'm 100% ok with Manu in starting line up..He can't create consistently and would get easy looks on 3s and maybe get into a rhythm.
Kawhi on wade pressure d, green on james slacked off. James posts green, makes kawhi a help defender. Green has done an acceptable job on James. I think kawhi can slow wade a lot more than he can slow James. That leaves wade doing pnr . We can't let all 3 go off. Noah seems to feed on the production of wade and James.
This.
Also I don't think he is in love with the Idea of being the creator for the Second Unit and it's starting to get to him with the Finals on the line and this close to victory.
It's like Telling Superman He has to be Clark Kent when Doomsday is approaching.
And Since Parker is the best suited to be able to find his own shot when he feels the need to be aggressive, He should Look to get Manu and TD going early, but take the offense if it's there.
It shouldn't be with the Heat game planned to Stop Parker.
Seems like this was already preordained for game 5.
Last edited by Yuixafun; 06-14-2013 at 02:54 PM.
Except for perhaps adjusting the starting lineup, I don't think Pop will change much of anything, tbh.
Excuse me, but the grownups are talking right now.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
