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    I mentioned that over in TimVP's thread. I'd rather see ANY shot attempt, instead of these weak-assed turnovers. CoJo just isn't physically strong enough (Yet. He's still just a pup.) If T-Mac could just advance the ball and avoid that trap, we've got guys who are shooting lights out. A few of them are going to go in, even if they aren't wide open and flat-footed. Anything is better than coughing it up and giving Miami easy points in transition.

    I haven't gotten a real easy feeling, watching him in garbage time. Do you think he could stand not jacking up shots? Because all they really need is someone to withstand the ball pressure, and hold down the fort while Tony is getting a blow.

    I'd welcome seeing Manu in with the starters, and T-Mac handling the ball with the second unit. It's pretty obvious that this lineup isn't going anywhere but fishing. And I agree, T-Mac is probably the one guy who is strong enough, and experienced enough to give the second team a shot.
    He has been reluctant to shoot in general, and this is in garbage time we're talking about. He's been actually looking to pass more. He actually had some great passes to DeJuan... if he doesn't overplay his hand, he might also be a guy that Miami could doubt about leaving alone or giving him his shot. You don't get that with Corey or DeColo...

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    I'd rather have Diaw in place of Splitter. Which is good than having Manu play right away. Taking away the PG and play maker of the 2nd unit is not a good thing to do. Diaw can defend either James or Wade.

    Splitter should only get PT when one of Miami's big 3 is sitting. Manu and Splitter has that PnR chemistry that should work.

    TP TD DG KL BDiaw as starters, again, maybe?
    MG, Neal, Splitter and a BIT of Bonner as subs. KL, DG and TP (if hamstring not bothering him) should still get big minutes.
    This just isn't working though. Because Manu becomes just a facilitator to Splitter and the shooters, and with him running point and getting trapped, he won't be able to drive or get an open look.

    Manu would need to play off the ball (ie: with Tony). I'm also not sold Pop liked Diaw on Wade, seeing how Wade did today.

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    No, Pop has to play Parker 40 minutes in Game 5. If his hamstring explodes, it explodes.

    And Manu needs to get his 30-32 minutes, with Duncan going 38-40.
    But does Manu still have the potential to breakout? I hope he does, but with all due respect timvp, you have a better sense of what the players on this team are still capable of doing. Is Manu still capable of breaking out for us?

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    You know, I figured Сталин would win us game 4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBSd-d1xewg&t=1m46s

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    You know, I figured Сталин would win us game 4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBSd-d1xewg&t=1m46s
    Brazil needs to bring back that troll, tbh... gold IMO

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    If making a dissappearing act it's being ok... Ok then. But that's not what we expect from him and that's not what he's paid for. He HAS to show up. If he really can't, then retire.

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    This just isn't working though. Because Manu becomes just a facilitator to Splitter and the shooters, and with him running point and getting trapped, he won't be able to drive or get an open look.

    Manu would need to play off the ball (ie: with Tony). I'm also not sold Pop liked Diaw on Wade, seeing how Wade did today.
    It's hard. To think we have 4 point guards in our team only to get exposed at this time of the year.

    I liked Diaw's defense, but not as happy as game 3's defense on Wade. For now, I'd go for that starter. Sub Ginobili with about 6-5 mins of the first qtr so he can play with Tony. Start him in the 2nd qtr with Kawhi for defensive purposes, bring Neal and Splitter. Oh God, Pop has the tiest job in the world right now.

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    Brazil needs to bring back that troll, tbh... gold IMO
    Was that username a response to jaffies Hitler video?



    I tried to befriend мой негр, but I think he's banned.

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    Was that username a response to jaffies Hitler video?
    I have no idea.

    I tried to befriend мой негр, but I think he's banned.
    I have it as a friend, and it shows last activity one week ago. But I don't think he posted. I think he's around, just changed the text under his name to 'banned'...

    Just befriend Brazil though, same thing, I saaaaaid....

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    F that. I'm sticking with Manu. It ain't pretty at all right now. But f that. That's my boy right there. Game 5.

    Ditto. Sticking with him until this series is over. Still hoping he will come through one last time.

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    You know what pisses me off the most about Manu? The fact that he's shooting free throws atrociously. I can almost live with the rest of his bull and chalk it up to an "ok game" because Manu's standards for a "good" game have dropped tremendously. He no longer deserves the prestige of being called one of the "Big 3." He's only one of the "big 3" by reputation now. It's no longer an indication of how potent his game is.

    But his free throw shooting drives me insane. I think I actually saw him hit 2 free throws in a row for the first time in months. He's been going 1-2 most of the time before that, and I believe he's shooting in the 60s.

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    Ditto. Sticking with him until this series is over. Still hoping he will come through one last time.
    DO NOT HOPE! Just pray it does! BUT DO NOT count on it! NOT AT ALL! If he has a few more bad games I will not be surprised! But I will hope or pray he has a game winner or a huge shot! Thats all I can ask for now! Just a big play! PERIOD!

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    I thought Manu's postgame interview was kinda weak, tbh.

    "Welp, my job is to pass the ball. I'm not supposed to score; that's not my role anymore. I need to feed everyone else."

    Need you to be a little bit more than Diaw Jr, tbh.

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    I thought Manu's postgame interview was kinda weak, tbh.

    "Welp, my job is to pass the ball. I'm not supposed to score; that's not my role anymore. I need to feed everyone else."

    Need you to be a little bit more than Diaw Jr, tbh.
    Not just "kinda". Sure is weak, tbh.

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    I thought Manu's postgame interview was kinda weak, tbh.

    "Welp, my job is to pass the ball. I'm not supposed to score; that's not my role anymore. I need to feed everyone else."

    Need you to be a little bit more than Diaw Jr, tbh.
    He said that? Sounds like Manu's mentally checked out tbh.



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    His passing was great. Probably the best passer on the team, if not close #2... if other Spurs can't finish the play, you can't pin that on Manu...

    Terrible passers don't finish with just one turnover against the top defense in the league, tbh
    If he is our second best passer with this wreckless passes then we are ed. PERIOD.

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    I thought Manu's postgame interview was kinda weak, tbh.

    "Welp, my job is to pass the ball. I'm not supposed to score; that's not my role anymore. I need to feed everyone else."

    Need you to be a little bit more than Diaw Jr, tbh.
    That's the role Pop wants from him now though, LJ... otherwise, he would play him as SG, at least for stretches.

    And I suspect Pop doesn't even think it's the ideal solution, but it's just the byproduct of DeColo and Joseph not really stepping up to grab that backup PG role in the regular season.

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    I thought Manu's postgame interview was kinda weak, tbh.

    "Welp, my job is to pass the ball. I'm not supposed to score; that's not my role anymore. I need to feed everyone else."

    Need you to be a little bit more than Diaw Jr, tbh.
    I agree, it is very weak. The funny thing is Coach Pop was asked about Manu's "changing" role a game or 2 ago and Pop answered with a befuddled look "Manu's role hasn't changed at all this year." It seems like Manu's the only one who thinks his "role" is to be a non-threat on offense and constantly pass the ball to well guarded teammates. No such role exists. If you're not a threat on offense, then your passes will be useless.

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    yea he might of only had 1 turnover

    but i saw a few plays where he passed the ball to someone that put them in a terrible position

    and led to a turnover

    They should keep track of Passes that Lead to Turnovers

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    The spurs really miss a backup PG right now. A solid backup PG would have allowed Manu to play his natural position, and maybe that could have helped him in the scoring department. Oh well...

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    If he is our second best passer with this wreckless passes then we are ed. PERIOD.
    Good enough to be the second best assist man on a team that's 2-2 in the NBA Finals. Might not be enough to beat the champs, but that's still damn good.

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    ElNono was trying to put some of the blame on Tiago for not making shots off the pick and roll with Manu, but in reality this - to some degree - is Manu's fault for being such a non-threat on offense, which in turn is a function of him being so passive throughout the season. He's so passive and he's so scared to shoot the ball (and he's so inefficient when he does shoot the ball) that it's all too easy to sag off him and keep the roll man well covered.

    You can't be a pick and roll facilitator if you're not an offensive threat. Period.

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    Manu should have demanded a couple of 20 FGA games long ago in the regular season to shoot himself out of his slump. As one of the big 3, he certainly had the green light to do that, but he didn't. Now it's too late to give Manu 20 FGA knowing that he's in such a poor shooting slump. We can't afford it.

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