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And by the same token, for the money he's being paid, he's not owed a 'pass' by spurs fans for his atrocious play either.
Reminds me a lot of when Kobe pulled a stunt where he didn't shoot the ball and just passed all game to prove a point.
Manu needs to get over himself and do what he needs to do to help the team.
I see a lot of a sullen child in that response.
And by the same token, for the money he's being paid, he's not owed a 'pass' by spurs fans for his atrocious play either.
It's a game of confidence. If they go in, he shoots more. If it doesn't, he won't. Which is why I said he needs to break through that and shoot more.
You simply can't yank him out of the team, because Green, Neal, Joseph or Neal can run the point. So he's gonna have to push the issue and if he makes he makes, and if he misses he misses. We're too far into the season now to reinvent the wheel.
Thats bull . You rationalize every ing thing he does or says. He played OK. Thats the weakest take I've ever heard from Manu. He absolutely owes it to Spurs fans to give it his all out there. I didn't doubt that was happening until his post game comments.
He's being paid what the Spurs agreed to pay him. He also played 3 years for dimes producing like crazy. We'll call it even.
It isn't bull . He doesn't owe you .
This is a guy that stuck to the franchise, and will probably be unable to walk straight after he retires because he left everything on the floor for YOUR team. Now he's aged and he can't be long haired Gino, and NOW he owes you ? GTFO
I'm reading some pretty ridiculous negative stuff about Manu that should have no place here.
Manu doesn't owe you .
And I would stop the nonsense right now. Some people are just walking a fine line now.
Be ing extremely careful now
Calling your post 'melodramatic' would be the understatement of the century.
You really ing think Manu's been done wrong by the Spurs and Spurs fans huh? You think that he's had it rough with them? Un ingbelievable. Every person who puts on that uniform owes the fans. Especially one who's received so much of their adoration for a long ass time. You're a moron if you think otherwise.
LMAO @ won't be able to walk straight though. Jesus ing Christ there isn't a cross big enough for you to nail Manu to.
After years of watching Manu and how compe ive he is, you really think he isnt giving it his all? His body has betrayed him tbh. His mind sees things he is no longer capable of doing. Kinda y as fans to get mad about that after everything hes done. Should sadden us as fans not madden us.
Fine line for what? Hurting COM member feelings on an internet message board?
Eh, not sold on Green or Neal running the point but I agree they're probably more ready to run it than Joseph at this stage. Joseph picks his dribble up too quickly when pressured. Green has terrible handles and Neal gets trapped easy.
http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/2013/...ilimp4-2508507
Thats the closest I've ever seen Manu to outright ing about what he's asked to do. He's sulking. Look if its his body, then thats that. Nothing he can do. If he's playing passive because he's pissed about what he's "asked to do" then thats total bull .
My point.... Still stands
Fine line for what? Hurting COM member feelings on an internet message board?
But it's true, tbh... heck, I remember when I met Bill Walton and it was painful just to watch him walk. These guys are completely wrecked after they retire, especially guys that banged a lot.
Heh FkLA being voice of reason. The end is near. Manu agreeing with Nono in that he is playing ok at the postgame press conf. is kinda surprising though. I never seen Manu make excuses for his bad play before, he was always very critical of himself.
WTF? He plays hard every ing game. He's OLD. He can't do what a 25 year old can do. He still goes out there, and plays his heart out. This is a guy that Pop calls one of the most compe ive guys he's ever seen, and he's seen plenty of guys.
Yep, as I was discussing with GSH, the only other person I would give a quick flyer on is T-Mac, but with Manu playing the 3. (Neal at 2). Miami plays small anyways.
That really is the most twilight zone interview of Manu I've ever seen. If I didn't know better, I'd think all his answers were being passive-aggressive about not liking his role on the team.
It makes it extra strange that it's Manu because this is a guy in his prime who would literally be on suicide watch after playoff losses. If he had a game like this back then, they'd have to put him in a padded room until the start of the next game.
Hopefully this is just Manu BSing his way through media answers and the fire/passion/anger is bubbling under the surface. I suspect that is the case.
But if Manu is really saying what he thinks in that interview, the Spurs are toast. They can't win if Ginobili think his role is to be a poor man's Brent Barry.
He isn't playing 'passive'. He's playing the role Pop gave him: facilitator as a backup PG. That's a role that doesn't allow him to drive to the rack, or take open shots.
I'm sure Manu would like to play his natural position as a SG, but Neal never developed into a backup PG (and we all definitely remember THAT experiment).
Its more passive aggressive than a 16 year old girl. I have NEVER doubted Manu's heart until now. And - like you - I'm mostly certain that he's trying 100% out there but you can't tell me that there's not a part of you who thinks that he might be pulling a Kobe at the worst possible time ever. I hope not. I suspect no one outside the organization knows.
There is nothing in that interview that makes me question whether he is giving his all. Im sure he realizes the obvious (that his body has physically deteriorated). He says he is a facilitator and that with the season Tony and the shooters have had he doesnt need to score as much...all that is true. Not seeing what the problem is with that interview tbh.
He said his role is to be a facilitator and that he didnt do that 'too well' today. He also said he wishes he could score more and his shots would fall, not sure how someone takes that as him saying hes playing well.
Since when does the back up PG position mean you can't ing drive???? You're pulling out of your ass to rationalize his play. He's playing the same ing role he's played for the past 6 years as a Spur and all of a sudden now he's not allowed to drive? Make up your mind - is it his body or is it because he plays this new non driving backup PG position?
Except Pop never said anything of the sort (at least publicly). In fact, he's said the opposite publicly. You're just making stuff up now.
Pop would never give anyone on the team a role that involves not "tak[ing] open shots." Pop pulls people for giving up open shots. He doesn't care if you miss. He cares if you hesitate with taking open shots. Are you serious right now?
I actually thought ElNono's defense of Manu was at least intelligible (albeit slightly delusional IMO) up until I read this:
"He isn't playing 'passive'. He's playing the role Pop gave him: facilitator as a backup PG. That's a role that doesn't allow him to drive to the rack, or take open shots."
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