Most of that makes no sense. The rest of it is stupid since the Spurs are 2-2 in the NBA Finals.
If you think Manu is going to make $14 million next season, you're also delusional.
Almost every old player's last year deal looks pretty silly in hindsight, tbh... you can apply that even to Kobe ($30 million)... they're sacrifices teams need to make in order to retain talent...
As far as the Spurs is concerned, they also took advantage of the rookie scale in his first 3 years... but none of this matters, tbh... his salary will be adjusted in the summer...
If Manu gets anything above a vet minimum contract...we will have overpaid for him. Its time for some fans to get over the emotional side and realize its time to move on.
not if he wants more then the vet min next year
that is what he is worth imo
if the spurs win it all would not shock me if duncan and manu retire together
I'm appalled at some of the idiots in here.
Ginobili had career lows in just about every category. It simply is time to hang it up.
He's guaransheed to have a big game this upcoming game, then someone is gonna bump this thread quoting everyone saying "LOLOLOL", then Manu will go back to being , then this thread will disappear.
He is done, Spurs need to focus on signing a PG in the offseason.
Ditto.
Manu was subject to the rookie scale? He was a 2nd round pick...
Only if we win a ring would I want to see my favorite player in the history of the sport retire.
He should retire. Like right now.
Are you people blind? I've been saying this whole time that the Spurs should sign restricted free agent JARRET JACK.
And to those of you bit**ing about hating on Manu and calling us idiots, well get over it. Manu is old. If he wants to play another season have him take the minimum's vet. The guy hasn't done on the court outside of that miracle buzzer beater @ GS.
Our role players have done their job so far. Timmy can do more but even he has been more productive than Manu. If the Spurs don't win the championship, the blame will go mostly on him. You guys calling us hypocrites will be the first ones making threads saying "Manu should retire." Get over it. He's old. Even if Manu has that one big game that we've all been waitng for on a Game 6 or 7 and the Spurs win it all, then I'll happily eat crow but my opinion will not change.
I'm not saying that he SHOULD retire but Spurs should not offer him nothing more than the veteran's minimum. Why waste Tony Parker's last five years by not building a championship contender?
Last edited by TheGreatYacht; 06-15-2013 at 07:31 PM.
Blair was a 2nd round pick too, and he's being paid less than the rookie scale, IIRC.
This was Manu's salary his first two seasons (per basketball reference):
2002-03 San Antonio Spurs NBA $1,325,000
2003-04 San Antonio Spurs NBA $1,457,500
The deal after that:
2004-05 San Antonio Spurs NBA $6,603,500
2005-06 San Antonio Spurs NBA $7,428,937
2006-07 San Antonio Spurs NBA $8,254,375
2007-08 San Antonio Spurs NBA $9,079,811
Bargain basement deal, tbh...
And one!
Brilliant. Brilliant!
The guy doesn't have it any more. We keep hoping but it isn't happenin'. Done.
Well thats because 2nd round picks are gambles that rarely pan out. Its not the rookie scale though. Manu's first contract was fair, IMO.
I hope he's back for another year or two regardless of this series. I don't know if he's injured or this is just a horrible matchup (probably both), but I think he's got another high quality season in him.
are people really implying that the spurs have overpaid manu over his NBA career? wow. I guess because manu is not playing up to his salary level this year, that makes him a thief, nevermind him consistently producing well above his salary for 90% of his NBA career. is this even debatable?
i posted this in another thread:
I dont know how to format it properly, but you know how people love to point out that tim duncan's per 36 numbers are so damn consistent (and even better in some categories). Do the same for manu.
this playoffs it translates to:
15pts 5.4 reb 6.8 ast 1.7 stl .5 blk 3.1 TO .505%TS
and for the regular season:
18.2 pts 5.2 reb 7.1 ast 2.1 stl .3 blk 3.4 to .560%TS
Not great, but certainly not the disaster people are making it out to be.
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anybody thinking that it will be easy to replace that production, either by FA or from players on the roster, are in for a rude awakening.
Everybody should just shut the up tbh
We made it this far with him playing like all season, so I don't see how it would be a major blow to the team.
Bingo. Why not take the extra roster space and money and get another youthful player who can grow with Leonard and Green and try and build a new big 3 instead of clinging onto a 36 year old SG that just doesnt have it anymore only because of emotional value.
Bingo. Tell that to those other ppl calling us haters. Cough... Jarret Jack.
manu ginobili 2013 season per 36:
18.2 pts 5.2 reb 7.1 ast 2.1 stl .3 blk 3.4 to .560%TS 19.0 PER
jarret jack 2013 season per 36:
15.7 pts 3.7 rev 6.7ast .9stl .2blk 2.4 TO .542%TS 15.9 PER
jack has a better ast/to ratio, nothing else. worst of all, 35 year old manu is actually a better defender than him.
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