Spurs: Will Danny green winning FMVP hurt Duncan's legacy?

[Jacob1983]

Danny Green winning the Finals MVP would be a good thing for the NBA. It would show that the NBA isn't just about superstars and all stars. It would show that a non star player stepped up when his team needed him the most. That is worthy of being the Finals MVP in my opinion.

[AchillesHeel]

Laker fan thinks any decent poster here gives a about anything but winning the championship. And if the Spurs end up winning the only story will be; Duncan and his guys make one last valiant stand and prevail. It's gonna make one of a "greatest of the" era do entaries tbh...

This. No sane person really cares who the MVP is, a true fan is happy that his team wins. IMO you could pick anyone from Duncan,Parker,Green and I wouldn't be too mad about any of the 3 because they all deserve it. Spurs are the epitome of team play, they define it in today's superstar-led cash cow of a league. People say Spurs are "boring" because they don't have one player that dominates for the entire night, they don't appreciate the team effort and the system that's built to shut down players like Lelbron.

[Arcadian]

The longer this series has gone on, the more and more I remember that Duncan is not that great (right now, not career wise) and is often camouflaged in the Spurs offensive and defensive scheme.

What? In game 5, he shot 70% from the field on 10 shots, grabbed 12 boards, and blocked 3 shots. Duncan is the true MVP of this series. He should have taken more shots, but for some reason the offense wasn't running through him much. Nonetheless, he was operating efficiently in the post, and he is controlling the paint in this series.

I haven't forgot that he hasn't even been a top 10 player in 4 years, and this Spurs team has been Parker's for a long time now.

Nonsense. Duncan is still currently a top 10 player, the best center in the NBA (verified by his first-team All-NBA selection), and the leader of the Spurs. You would only think Parker is better if you looked at ppg and apg - but come on, we all know there is more to the game than points and assists.

[Mal]

It will be excatly what Duncan`s legacy is. Team first, help teammates be better players, winning is important, consitency.

[TDMVPDPOY]

What? In game 5, he shot 70% from the field on 10 shots, grabbed 12 boards, and blocked 3 shots. Duncan is the true MVP of this series. He should have taken more shots, but for some reason the offense wasn't running through him much. Nonetheless, he was operating efficiently in the post, and he is controlling the paint in this series.



Nonsense. Duncan is still currently a top 10 player, the best center in the NBA (verified by his first-team All-NBA selection), and the leader of the Spurs. You would only think Parker is better if you looked at ppg and apg - but come on, we all know there is more to the game than points and assists.

did you see in that 4th quarter midway point, parker takes 5 consecutive plays to pad his fkn pathetic stats? dude sometimes over dribbles or holds it too fkn long

i really hope duncan, green or KL wins it cause they have totally earned it, as for the fake ass wanker with a fake ass hammy make jordans flu game look like bull

[Bill_Brasky]

Hey Laker fan

Enjoy being the Cowboys of the NBA

[Kidd K]

The ONLY people that have Duncan > Kobe are Spurs fans/Kobe haters.

Whether or not it was correct or not, other NBA players and legends had Kobe > Duncan even in 2008 when Kobe only had 3 rings. That margin widened even more dramatically after 2010. The only people that try to claim Duncan is BETTER (not just on even footing) are people who want to stand out. Duncan winning his 5th and tying Kobe will not bump him AHEAD of Kobe in most people's eyes, especially when Duncan seems more like "one of the guys" in this series. He isn't a standout star by any stretch, and really hasn't been since 2008. If you weren't a basketball fan before a week ago, you wouldn't even know if Duncan was a great player or not... although I guess the same could be said about Lebron since he hasn't done anything this entire series.

Nope. I'd even say the opposite, and that the only people who have Kobe above Duncan are Kobe fans and Lakers homers.

No legends had Kobe > Duncan with 3>5 in 2008 except Lakers/Kobe homers. That's a in joke. Everyone was discrediting Kobe for his 3 rings being with Shaq and how Kobe couldn't do without him. You clearly either weren't watching basketball back then or never posted on the internet to see what non Lakers-homer opinions were. There was no "margin" to widen either. I think you mean the gap closed. The only argument for Kobe > Duncan is 5 > 4. That's it. With it being 5=5, there's no argument anymore. It's all on who was better and how much did they contribute to each ring, and that's Duncan's argument to win.

People who don't agree with ignorant takes aren't always trying to stand out either . That's just lame broad brushing right there. Never a good argument.

Speaking of ignorant takes, if you think Duncan's "just one of the guys" now, it heavily speaks of your ignorance of basketball. He's by far the best defensive player on the team who could've (should've imo) won DPOY this year and carries the team's low post touches and scoring. His USG% this year actually led the team. Yes, higher than Parker's. He was also 12th in the NBA in that stat. Totally just "one of the guys" though. . .if you're a in blind re .

[100%duncan]

You can do better.

[King Nupe]

You know, this is that crap that I'm talking about. If Kobe had lost the FMVP to Gasol, then Spurs fan would be calling him "Eternal Sidekick", but when Duncan doesn't win FMVP, He's a GREAT TEAM PLAYER. Whatever man. Kobe and Duncan are BOTH great teamplayers because they won Team Championships. Stop with the double standards. Another thing, Spurs fans love to say how Duncan was robbed of DPOY awards (at least 2 of them in my opinion), but can't acknowledge that Kobe was robbed of 2 League MVP awards. Instead, they like to say crap like Duncan 2 > Kobe 1, when you know it should at LEAST BE Duncan 2 = Kobe 2. But you guys have that ridiculous double standard.


Most Laker fans will acknowledge that Duncan is TOP 10 GOAT, and #1 GOAT PF. But spurs fans like to discredit Kobe's achievments. Kobe and Duncan basically came in together, and competed against each other for the last 17 Years. If duncan wins this year, then that means they BOTH won 5 Championships, and they BOTH Needed HOF Help to do it. Kobe had top 10 GOAT in Shaq, and Duncan had 3 HOF's to help him win.


My point is, just be fair when it comes to comparisons.

[Raven]

Danny Green winning the Finals MVP would be a good thing for the NBA. It would show that the NBA isn't just about superstars and all stars. It would show that a non star player stepped up when his team needed him the most. That is worthy of being the Finals MVP in my opinion.

that's basically everything stern has worked so hard to deny

[StrengthAndHonor]

Danny Green winning the Finals MVP would be a good thing for the NBA. It would show that the NBA isn't just about superstars and all stars. It would show that a non star player stepped up when his team needed him the most. That is worthy of being the Finals MVP in my opinion.

Agree. People put too much weight on FMVP. Just like Regular Season MVP, it did had questionable winners in the past. It doesn't matter who wins the award anyway, the Spurs are still Duncan's team. But I agree, give the award to the best player in the series/

[kidd_91]

No way Green is winning FMVP so this whole thread is a moot point. Green's shooting is a product of Duncan, Parker and the Spurs system. When Parker goes out the Spurs struggle to get set or sometimes even bring the ball upcourt. Without Duncan in the middle Wade and Lebron would be attacking the rim every Heat possession. Green is a great story line, kind of rags to riches thing the media loves, but let's not get crazy on what he brings to the team.

With all that said Green is taking full advantage of looks he's getting and should be considered a very valuable piece to the team and championship run. Let's hope he can continue his run of great shooting and close out this series Tuesday.

[AchillesHeel]

No way Green is winning FMVP so this whole thread is a moot point. Green's shooting is a product of Duncan, Parker and the Spurs system. When Parker goes out the Spurs struggle to get set or sometimes even bring the ball upcourt. Without Duncan in the middle Wade and Lebron would be attacking the rim every Heat possession. Green is a great story line, kind of rags to riches thing the media loves, but let's not get crazy on what he brings to the team.

With all that said Green is taking full advantage of looks he's getting and should be considered a very valuable piece to the team and championship run. Let's hope he can continue his run of great shooting and close out this series Tuesday.

If Green wasn't there, Spurs would be losing, jackass. Green is good yes because of Heat focusing on defending the big 3 but if he wasn't there to step up the Heat would be up on the series right now. If he wasn't there to knock those 3s down Spurs offense would look horrible, tbh. He broke the 3s record in the Finals, he's the most efficient Spur out there. 18 ppg on 80% TS? 66% from 3? How many role players have done this on a Finals stage? Of course Timmy or TD will win it, but Green winning it wouldn't be too bad as he's been very efficient and important in all the wins, avging 21 ppg 5 reb 1 stl 2 blk in the 3 wins so far.

[kidd_91]

way to overreact to a observation. I never said we would be winning without Green. I just stated that he is not the MVP of the series, based on every interview he's made he'll tell you the same. Like I said he's taking full advantage of every open look he's got and would be a very big reason if the Spurs can finish this off. But you're the jackass if you think this team wins, or even gets to the Finals without Parker.

[Kidd K]

If Kobe had lost the FMVP to Gasol, then Spurs fan would be calling him "Eternal Sidekick", but when Duncan doesn't win FMVP, He's a GREAT TEAM PLAYER.

You realize people say Duncan's a great team player and don't with Kobe because of the way they play, right? It's their philosophy for playing basketball. Kobe wants get the ball and do what he does and expects things to be easier for his teammates while he's doing his thing and drawing attention. Duncan looks at what he can do to help out his teammates as much as possible while also doing his thing.

You can't seriously be upset that fans don't treat Kobe, one of the well-known selfish players in basketball, the same as Duncan, one of the most well-known great team player all stars of basketball in regards to how good of a teammate they are. Kobe has to actually earn that le. He doesn't automatically get it because someone else in the NBA happens to have it.

[jeebus]

Green would be the worst FMVP ever if he did win it. If anything, he might win co-FMVP with Parker if he has another great performance.