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    That's Houston likely cap situation:
    Harden: $13.7M
    Asik: $8.4M
    Lin: $8.4M
    Robinson: $3.5M
    White: $1.7M
    Jones: $1.6M
    Motiejunas: $1.4M
    Parsons: $0.9M
    Smith: $0.9M
    Beverley: $0.8M
    Honeycutt*: $0.1M
    2 cap fold: $1.0M

    Total: $42.4M

    With a $60M cap, they have $17.6M in cap space.
    With a $62M cap, they have $19.6M in cap space.

    Howard max salary is $20.5M.

    Houston can save $0.4M by cutting Smith, they can save $0.6M by using the stretch provision on White. A Robinson for Bonner trade, will create $2M in cap space for them.
    if they cut Smith, forget Robinson, go and get Smith. I liked what I saw out of him this past year.

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    IMO, Spurs interest in Robinson will depend on whether or not they think he can get a reliable midrange jumpshot by working with Chip. If he can't hit the 10-15 ft jumpshot, his future in the NBA looks quite bleak.

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    Dallas is shopping their first round pick for a salary dump. Maybe Lorbek's rights could be used there.

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    that lakers series was so epic. texas teams are now considering salary dumping lottery talent to the spurs! the spurs have completely mind ed the league.

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    Dallas is shopping their first round pick for a salary dump. Maybe Lorbek's rights could be used there.
    It's unlikely that Cuban would ever do business with the Spurs.

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    It's unlikely that Cuban would ever do business with the Spurs.
    Rockets probably wont too. They all will be looking outside the division.

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    It's unlikely that Cuban would ever do business with the Spurs.

    I heard Mavs were hot on Schroder at 13.

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    I don't get the no trade within division. NBA teams play their divisional foes 4 times a year, they play 36 games against the other 10 teams in conference, 3.6 times per season. It shouldn't be an obstacle to a deal. I get it with NFL trades, where Division is more important, but Divisions don't really have much important in the structure of the NBA.

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    It's unlikely that Cuban would ever do business with the Spurs.
    We can offer pretty much the most cap relief of anyone he could deal with: taking the cap hold slot for #13 and conveying Bonner's $1M only guaranteed deal. If he really wants Howard, there's likely not an easier deal to clear the room.

    Bonner for #13, VC and James. That saves Dallas ~ $2.6M plus the cap figure for #13. If the did Morrow, instead, they'd save another $400K on the salary difference.

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    I'm all in for the T-ROB trade..would be a great backup pf. These top picks get abbused by mediocre teams by limiting their minutes. His jump shot can be improved just like kawai. This would be a steal in my opinion.

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    Thomas Robinson should obviously be viewed differently as a prospect than he was last year, but some of you might like a youtube breakdown of his skills from 2012.


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    I'm all in for the T-ROB trade..would be a great backup pf. These top picks get abbused by mediocre teams by limiting their minutes. His jump shot can be improved just like kawai. This would be a steal in my opinion.
    Spurs should trade for this guy. He would be an upgrade over Blair in size and durability and I am sure he will work with Chip on improving his jumper. Of all the potential FA and trade targets, this is the one guy I hope the Spurs really pursue. He has tremendous athleticism for a 6'10" player, he just needs to work on his fundamentals, which the Spurs coaching staff are an expert of developing.

    I think he could be a future all-star caliber player if he goes to the right organization. He has the talent, just needs to right coaching at this point.

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    Spurs should trade for this guy. He would be an upgrade over Blair in size and durability and I am sure he will work with Chip on improving his jumper. Of all the potential FA and trade targets, this is the one guy I hope the Spurs really pursue. He has tremendous athleticism for a 6'10" player, he just needs to work on his fundamentals, which the Spurs coaching staff are an expert of developing.

    I think he could be a future all-star caliber player if he goes to the right organization. He has the talent, just needs to right coaching at this point.
    He is not a 6'10 player.

    6'7'75 without shoes and 1 inch taller in shoes according to draftexpress. I am not sure about the future all-star caliber player either. When a rookie can't even complete his 1st year with the team that drafted him and then he is shopped around the league right after, there's got be something "wrong" that we don't know about him.

    Look, if SA can land him for nothing (like Bonner's expiring and a 2nd) I wouldn't mind him at all. But I think our expectations shouldn't be that high.

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    He is not a 6'10 player.

    6'7'75 without shoes and 1 inch taller in shoes according to draftexpress. I am not sure about the future all-star caliber player either. When a rookie can't even complete his 1st year with the team that drafted him and then he is shopped around the league right after, there's got be something "wrong" that we don't know about him.

    Look, if SA can land him for nothing (like Bonner's expiring and a 2nd) I wouldn't mind him at all. But I think our expectations shouldn't be that high.
    If that's the case, the Spurs already know about it, and won't touch him. RC's best friend is Kansas coach Bill Self. He'd tell any tales that needed telling.

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    He is not a 6'10 player.

    6'7'75 without shoes and 1 inch taller in shoes according to draftexpress. I am not sure about the future all-star caliber player either. When a rookie can't even complete his 1st year with the team that drafted him and then he is shopped around the league right after, there's got be something "wrong" that we don't know about him.

    Look, if SA can land him for nothing (like Bonner's expiring and a 2nd) I wouldn't mind him at all. But I think our expectations shouldn't be that high.
    well it's not really a secret what his problems are, he can't make a jumper from 1ft, can't make a ft either, is not a great defender and has a low bball iq. honestly, he has nothing other than a decent (not above average) combination athleticism-size

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    Spurs already have their project big for next season.....Baynes. They need a legit big, Robinson ain't it.

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    If the Spurs think they can fix his jump shot (big if) and that he has the mental makeup for the team, they should totally trade for him. The team's most-successful recent acquisitions have been players that no one wanted that they developed into solid rotation players. Outside of Diaw, they haven't been as successful with ready-made players. I'd rather see a Robinson or Derrick Williams over a Millsap if the team believes in those players' potential.

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    If the Spurs think they can fix his jump shot (big if)

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    ^I saw that on Twitter and wonder if it was from the Spurs?




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    You don't think they can get better than 28th pick?

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    You don't think they can get better than 28th pick?
    There are two competing scenarios going on right now: Houston and Thomas Robinson, and Dallas #13 pick + Carter. Both HOU and DAL are trying to clear about the same amount of cap space, and there are only a few teams with an expiring contract or the cap room to absorb the contract(s) outright. Since there are two teams needing cap help, neither is in a position of strength in the negotiations.

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    If the Rockets are going to draft-and-stash anyway, they might prefer the 28th pick over the 13th because most stashable players should still be available at 28 and the 28th pick's salary is less when he does come over.

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    There are two competing scenarios going on right now: Houston and Thomas Robinson, and Dallas #13 pick + Carter. Both HOU and DAL are trying to clear about the same amount of cap space, and there are only a few teams with an expiring contract or the cap room to absorb the contract(s) outright. Since there are two teams needing cap help, neither is in a position of strength in the negotiations.
    i think ATL may need to make a small move too if they think they can land both CP3 and Howard so they can offer two max deals. They may want to make a move like Dallas with one of their picks.

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    If the Rockets are going to draft-and-stash anyway, they might prefer the 28th pick over the 13th because most stashable players should still be available at 28 and the 28th pick's salary is less when he does come over.
    I don't think he was suggesting that they would be trade partners with each other, rather that those are deals teams like the Spurs might have on the table if they are able to offer relief in return. Spurs ability to absorb the 3M (carter or robinson) is key. Bonner's deal also becomes important here as a chip the Spurs have to offer.

    as between Robison, Gobert, and Adams, I rank Robinson last. Therefore I am inclined to deal with Dallas if Adams or Gobert are available at 13.

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