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    Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA As Clippers-Celtics talks fall apart, several sources tell Y! that Clippers had "cold feet' on the financial payouts needed to close deal.

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    Clippers refused to give additional 1st-round pick, but ultimately $35M extension for Rivers and $3M-plus Jordan trade kicker played part.
    11:42 AM - 18 Jun 2013

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    Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA Danny Ainge has called Doc Rivers to tell him that talks are done, sources tell Y! Sports. Ainge told him he still wants him as coach.


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    Chris Paul wants to sign as a FA in this lousy franchise, run by a numskull?

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    Well... uh... I guess it's all simply... "dead" or what? Cheapskates.

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    That $35 million extension is the nail in the coffin. Sterling doesn't want to invest a lot of $ on coaches.

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    All these stars demanding left and right is just ridiculous.

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    I like Bill Simmons and Ryan Russilo's arguments the other day, they were saying Doc Rivers is acting the same way Kobe acted in '07, where he wants to leave the team but doesn't want the Clippers to give up too much(Bledsoe)..

    Boston giving up 2 picks is asinine, tbh..I understand they would save a little money by moving Rivers, but having Jordan on your team at 11-12 mil a year isn't a privilege..he's a ty player with overrated upside..

    Doc Rivers is the most overrated person involved in the NBA that I've ever seen, tbh..average X's and O's guy and average system, nothing special, great motivator, yet the media actually believes he's a coach that can alter the fortunes of your team..

    Clippers should accept the deal for 1 pick, they don't even need 2, tbh, moving Jordan and his ty contract is addition by subtraction, let alone getting KG and a pick, too..

    Picks would be from Clippers to Celtics, not the other way around.

    You have to be crazy if you thought Jordan was worth even close to that much.
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    Kevin Garnett has been finished, what a ty trade idea by the Clippers.

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    That $35 million extension is the nail in the coffin. Sterling doesn't want to invest a lot of $ on coaches.
    Apparently Doc's salary wasn't the issue, it was the extra first round pick and the trade kicker, tbh....

    I'm perfectly fine with Shaw or even Hollins, plus the Clippers still have all their assets to make other trades.... that being said, the Celtics are still screwed if they don't get this trade done, as this is their only chance to get anything in return for Doc and KG, so I'm not quite buying that it's dead, tbh.... the CP3 trade was also killed once for the asking price supposedly being too high, but we all know what the end result of that was....

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    I didn't realize teams could trade a coach. Am I just being daft, or what?

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    The Clips made the right decision imo, Hollins is the best black HC they can get, might actually get in Demonkey and Blake's faces and make them improve.

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    I think Doc's better than Hollins, but after reading up on Hollins, I don't think he's that bad anymore, tbh.... he's a lot more versatile than I thought, since he had originally tried to coach the Grizzlies as a running team but then adjusted to his personnel and slowed his system down over the years, tbh.... his players also seem to respect him a lot, whereas Vinny was walked all over by his teams, tbh....

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    The coaching is not big of a deal, whether its Hollins or Doc. Clippers missed out on the opportunity to bring KG and the chance to dump DJ.

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    I heard Houston was gonna trade Harden to the Lakers for Jerry Buss and Pau Gasol.

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    Chris Paul is a ing loser . . He's actually ok with the deal falling through

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    So essentially, this boils down to Ainge being greedy and asking for too much then, like he always does.... if he's smart, he'll get back on the phone and take the Clippers' offer, since the Celtics stand to lose a LOT more than the Clippers do if this trade really doesn't go down, tbh....

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    So essentially, this boils down to Ainge being greedy and asking for too much then, like he always does.... if he's smart, he'll get back on the phone and take the Clippers' offer, since the Celtics stand to lose a LOT more than the Clippers do if this trade really doesn't go down, tbh....
    not giving up the other number one

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    I guess after the Cavs fleeced the Clippers a couple of years ago, Los Angeles is determined to never take a bad deal again. But this is crazy at this point. Just make the deal if you want Garnett and Rivers. The Celtics are compromised more than enough.

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    Arash Markazi was talking about this on ESPN Radio.... he said the deal may still get done, and that the Clippers already had a 5 year, $35 million contract fully worked out with Doc.... the reason they're reluctant to throw in the extra pick is because they wouldn't have a first-rounder for the next four years..... they're also still confident that CP3 will re-sign....

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    Yeah, I actually don't think the trade is nearly as bad as the first reported trade was. Then one where they were talking about trading Griffin and for KG and Doc. I mean come on, Blake is a lot better than KG now + younger.

    Then it was Bledsoe, Jordan, and maybe a pick. Which was dumb 'cause you don't wanna dump Bledsoe. . .

    Now it's Jordan and a couple late 1st rounders for KG and Doc. That's actually really solid for the Clipps. Sucks to lose two first rounders and take back a lot of salary, but the talent they get for it is definitely good.
    There's no telling what a good coach and some better veteran leadership could do for the Clips. If Pierce shows up for the ride too, it's a freaking home run. Worth the 2 picks and the salary, tbh.

    And there's no way the Celtics are getting a lottery pick for KG, because it doesn't make sense to pay that much to rent the last couple of years in KGs career if you aren't going to be playing deep in the playoffs. Hoping you can turn Jordan around with better coaching and adding a couple of so-so picks isn't a terrible return, as long as it's true that Doc doesn't want to stick around for rebuilding and the C's don't want to pay him $7 million a year to coach a lottery team. I mean, the Celtics are going to get crushed over the next few years, but that's pretty much what rebuilding means.

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    so much hype about 2 irrelevant franchises

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    Chris Paul is a ing loser . . He's actually ok with the deal falling through
    Negotiating tactic. If Paul is going to leave if a deal doesn't get done, the Celtics have the Clippers bent over and they know it. So even if he will leave, they need to pretend he won't.

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    Negotiating tactic. If Paul is going to leave if a deal doesn't get done, the Celtics have the Clippers bent over and they know it. So even if he will leave, they need to pretend he won't.
    Huh? That wasn't coming from Celtics sources - it's the Clippers saying he's okay with the deal falling through.... if anything, that helps the Clippers if talks get restarted, because Ainge can't say "do this deal my way or CP3 will leave"....

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    Huh? That wasn't coming from Celtics sources - it's the Clippers saying he's okay with the deal falling through.... if anything, that helps the Clippers if talks get restarted, because Ainge can't say "do this deal my way or CP3 will leave"....
    Sorry if I wasn't clear -- that's exactly what I mean. Even if CP3 really will leave, it's an important negotiating tactic for the Clips to claim that he won't -- otherwise the Celtics can do just what you mentioned.

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