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Mark Heisler @MarkHeisler about 9 minutes ago
#Celtics, #Clippers in lockdown--but NBA has problem w/twin transactions. Team official: 'NBA guys say they don't see how this can happen'
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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine about 10 minutes ago
Source tells ESPN that Celts & Clips have today begun discussing new trade scenarios to try to satisfy league's misgivings on these deals
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Mark Heisler @MarkHeisler about 9 minutes ago
#Celtics, #Clippers in lockdown--but NBA has problem w/twin transactions. Team official: 'NBA guys say they don't see how this can happen'
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz2Wm9ddaTk
ESPNSteinLine
Sources tell ESPN it's been communicated to Celts & Clips that league has questions about proposed deals and appearance they are connected
ESPNSteinLine
NBA rules prohibit any trade/signing being made w/contingencies or side deals. Can Celts & Clips prove Doc & KG deals are "separate" moves?
Brian Schmitz @MagicInsider about 6 minutes ago
NBA looking at Celtics-Clippers deal, warning no side deals are permitted. Please. Isn't every trade a side deal so to speak?
Baxter Holmes @BaxterHolmesabout 6 minutes ago
Hearing plenty about snags in the deal. As I wrote long ago, there were initial concerns it'd be too complex to pull off.
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Last tweet means that Celts/Clips deals -- IF agreed -- won't necessarily take form of DeAndre Jordan & two firsts going to Boston
Stern was just on the radio and basically said the trade cant be broken into two seperate ones. The rules wont allow it
So essentially, Stern's blocking a deal for no apparent reason..... at least with the CP3 veto, as the de facto owner, he decided he could get a better deal elsewhere, which happens all the time in the NBA.... this is just a storm of epic proportions, tbh....
Translation: instead of focusing on how they're going to fix their $120 million pile of a team, the Lakers have spent their time calling up Stern so he can stop the Clippers from getting better and ruin the Celtics' chances at Wiggins....
Imo the NBA vetoes this trade, Celtics send Paul Pierce to Dallas and then KG is traded to the Lakers for Pau Gasol.
Not sure what you find so funny..Stern ed the Lakers over on the CP3 trade. LOL CLIPPERS
Translation: instead of focusing on how they're going to fix their $120 million pile of a team, the Lakers have spent their time calling up Stern so he can stop the Clippers from getting better and ruin the Celtics' chances at Wiggins....
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No he didn't, those are two very different situations..... it's one thing for an owner (and Stern was the de facto owner of the Hornets at the time) to veto a trade involving their own team because they want to do a different trade - it's a whole other thing for Stern to block a trade while acting as commissioner despite not having a leg to stand on or any proof of rule-breaking, tbh....
So Stern's "solution" is that either the Clippers take Boston's draft picks or they give up less in the trade? Isn't that completely ing over the Celtics?http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...trade/2442231/
The deal could still get done, but one of two adjustments may need to be made: the Celtics may need to offer more in the deal than just Garnett, with draft picks the most logical possibility; the Clippers, who have been attempting to give up just one first-round draft pick, may be allowed to give up less in the trade. The real trade value of the 37-year-old is at the center of this discussion, as the idea that Boston could net two first-round draft picks and a respectable replacement in Jordan who is 13 years younger clearly doesn’t calculate for league officials.
From Larry Coon's Twitter:
So basically, Stern's argument that coaches can't be traded is wrong, and his argument that splitting the trade up doesn't make it legal under any cir stances is also wrong.... way to know the rules of your own league, Stern!As has been repeated to me many times, the CBA isn't a do ent listing things teams can't do, it one listing things teams CAN do. There's nothing in there about trading players for coaches, or anything else of that nature. There have been coach-related conveyances related to draft picks, but draft picks have always been half-in and half-out of the purview of the CBA anways (eg: the Stepien rule isn't in the CBA). What IS in the CBA is that there can't be any side agreements to a deal, and the Rivers accommodation would be such a side deal. So it'd have to be more than just two separate, parallel trades. They would have to be separated in time as well.
Ramona Shelburne rAmonashelburne
Clippers new strategy is to land Doc first, roll dice on KG/PP later, sources tell ESPN. Story with @ESPNSteinLine coming shortly
So hilarious. So basically, after giving us CP3, Stern is going to be the reason why CP3 bolts
Basketball Reasons
Hate to say it though, with these moves, we are looking a lot like the Fakers
I just hope the restructured deal doesn't involve Bledsoe. I'll take an extra salary if I have to as long as we get KG, DOC and keep Bled at the end of the day. That's the bottom line.
http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/0...s=iref:nbahpts
.... whats happening ?
My guess is they're waiting for Doc to step down as the Celtics' coach before agreeing on compensation, that way Stern can't say they're still "trading for a coach".....
The Los Angeles Clippers are continuing to withhold any offers of compensation to secure the rights to Boston Celtics coach Doc Rivers and are threatening to blow up the blockbuster deal that they've negotiated with the coach, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.After Clippers management privately insisted to people that they were awaiting approval of owner Donald Sterling on draft-pick compensation for Rivers, no offer has been made to the Celtics and there's growing concern in multiple corners of the these talks that the Clippers' front office has no authority to meet Boston's request of a first-round pick to bring Rivers to Los Angeles as coach, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
The Celtics and Clippers have been in contact with the league office on the proposed Kevin Garnett and Rivers transactions and NBA commissioner David Stern has made it clear that the Garnett-DeAndre Jordan part of the trade talks cannot be completed simultaneously with the securing of Rivers' rights through draft picks.
As free-agent star Chris Paul pressures the Clippers to get deals done for Rivers and eventually Garnett, the Clippers' unwillingness to make a formal offer to Boston for compensation on Rivers has left many in the process confused, sources said.
Boston will not relinquish the rights to Rivers without compensation – likely a first-round pick – and let him free of the final three years, $21 million on his contract, sources said.
Boston has insisted on Jordan and a first-round pick for Garnett, and would allow Rivers out of his contract to join the Clippers in a separate deal for a first-rounder, sources said.
The Clippers negotiated a five-year, $35 million deal with Rivers that could be worth as much as $8 million annually with bonus incentives, sources said. Rivers has arrangements to bring some Celtics support staff – including assistants coaches Tyron Lue and Kevin Eastman, and possibly others – with him to Los Angeles, sources said.
The Clippers haven't pushed Paul for a firm commitment to re-sign based on the completion of the deal, but Rivers would accept the job with a belief that the All-Star point guard has decided to stay and play for him, sources told Yahoo! Sports.
Like I said, this is most likely a smokescreen to get around Stern's objections, tbh....
Apparently the Celtics had a press conference with Ainge and Doc scheduled for noon ET today, then postponed it to Monday shortly afterwards in order to negotiate compensation with the Clippers.... this has become a complete mess, thanks, Stern!
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