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    Who cares about Argentina here, it's all about the Spurs, who is writing Manu's checks

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    Duncan is a dreamer. He believes regardless of age or situation it's possible to win a championship.

    Manu approaches the game purely looking at odds.
    It's funny you think that when their styles of play suggest the opposite. Duncan believes in fundamentals and understands the changes he has to undergo physically to keep playing at a high level. Ginobili is more about taking chances and going against the odds. Duncan doesn't try to do anything he can't and stays within himself. Ginobili attempts to make the hard pass or go for the long contested shot. Duncan's been extremely realistic regarding his age while Ginobili has yet to come to grips with his declining game.

    Believing the Spurs couldn't win three straight in San Antonio wasn't the rational thing. Subjective probability is inherently irrational. Understanding that objective probabilty is created from the aggregation of individual, independent events is rational. In other words, the rational view is that you make your own odds.

    None of this is to say that Ginobili isn't a rational person or that his views are without merit. It is to say that connecting a "realistic view" with a defeatist at ude is not the sign of a rational mind.

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    Manu playing in the Olympics caused the Spurs the Championship no doubt

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    Manu playing in the Olympics caused the Spurs the Championship no doubt
    Parker, Splitter, Diaw, Decolo also played there. What did that cost?

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    Manu used to be the best closer. I always liked when he got to the free throw line late in playoff games because you knew he was going to close. I didn't get that feeling this time and sure enough he missed a free throw.

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    Parker, Splitter, Diaw, Decolo also played there. What did that cost?
    They all got injured throughout the season. Parker was injured throughout the playoffs.

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    They all got injured throughout the season. Parker was injured throughout the playoffs.
    So what did that cost us?

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    So what did that cost us?
    Cost us a ty version of TP in the finals and possibly another micro-reason on why the Spurs didn't win the le.

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    Parker, Splitter, Diaw, Decolo also played there. What did that cost?
    comparing Parker, Splitter, Diaw, Decolo to Ginobili end of story

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    Ginobili's latest article proves my point. He rationalized everything to a game of chances and luck. Case closed.

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    theres not much to say when father time catches up to your ass. and unfortunately for manu, father time caught up at the worst moment

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    I don't often post but when I do it's usually because I have something important to say. Now I don't want you to take this personal but your threads are terrible. Again I don't know who you are, what you do, etc but I certainly hope that your contribution to this website is not the culmination of your life.
    Lol I don't post often? 67,500 post count = your generous contribution

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    smh, tbh

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    dear god

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    "I don't often post but when I do it's usually because I have something important to say. Now I don't want you to take this personal but your threads are terrible. Again I don't know who you are, what you do, etc but I certainly hope that your contribution to this website is not the culmination of your life."

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    I do believe that Olympics may have influence Manu's season and he knows it. Regarding losing his passion..smh..

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    So if Parker was 6-15 with 8 turnovers that'd be still really bad no? Instead of turnovers he had 8 more missed shots for 6-23 in Game 6
    Parker sucked ass but he nutted up and had the trey and then the nifty reverse layup to put us up by three. Coach Mo-rons failure to foul before the shot -certainly foul the rebounder Bosh- was an all time clutz move.

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    What is Manu's veritical? I saw a discussion 10 years ago suggesting it may be as high as 38 inches which if true was elite. I am sure he has lost a few from that if true, but he still gets up quite well!

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    And it hurt him late in his career.

    The way he's played since coming into the league was years beyond anything the league had seen. Inventing new moves and creativity. He played a style of only threes or drives and a method to his madness that had advanced stats people drooling. Knowing the midrange shot is inefficient. Gunning a three in every 2 for 1 end of quarter end of half situation. Taking open threes regardless of when during a shot clock it was cause in his view it's about what's my chances of getting a better shot not how much is left on the shot clock. He saw the floor and passed with incredible wizardry. This is what gave him confidence to tell Pop this is what I do. It's also why his teams always wins. Him being on your squad means teaching players moves like Eurostep, floaters, he single handedly made Parker a better reader of the floor. He knew in his mind about efficiency and willingly came off the bench because he knows he will get more touched in a condensed period of time and less minutes was not as important as touches. He also knew this put him at an advantage playing against subs etc. I also don't think Manu works that much during the offseason. All his skills are instincts vision intelligence and skill. He's not a workout guy or someone shooting till they close the gym. He's a pure intelligence based player.

    His rationality and logic is also why he's atheist. He runs a math club as his charity I mean that's how logical and numerical he is. Manu would make a great GM but long story short its why he's failed.

    Duncan is a dreamer. He believes regardless of age or situation it's possible to win a championship.

    Manu approaches the game purely looking at odds. "Chances are we won't win 3 straight at home" "yeah I had a good game but probably won't play as well next game". "Really Game 6 was our opportunity. It's not likely to get 2 chances." Because he's so sure about why you win and why you lose it doesn't hurt him as much to lose cause he's rationalized it. He thinks it's good enough. He thinks we got unlucky in Game 6. He isn't as eager to win a championship cause he knows the difference even if we had won tonight would be sheer lucky play / bounce and not real difference between being Miami or SA right now. This at ude is why he is who he is but also why he can't go for the impossible.
    And how can you argue with Duncan, he was a free throw, a rebound, a bad coaching decison or a Manu turnover from winning a championship at 37.

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