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    I'm no Parker hater but this happens to every elite PG in the playoffs. Someone puts a stopper with length on them and they are shut down. Sefolosha, Lebron, Green on CP3 and Curry, same different day. Hopefully the front office learns from this and makes the offense less Parker dependent next year. Leonard can be an all-star as soon as next year, lets get the new era started.

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    Magic anyone.
    Oscar Robertson anyone.

    But Parker needs help. Given Kawhi more of a role on offense and sign a slashing SG like Mayo. Move Green to the bench where he belongs.

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    An injured Parker put us in a position to win game 6, stop it.

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    This was one of the few games I actually watch of the Mavs this year. Imagine this next to Parker and Kawhi on the wing.

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    Apparently you can, we just didn't.

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    OP, no. I think you mean you can't win with a bed- ting, unreliable, sloppy-playing SG as your 3rd best player and 2nd best ballhandler.

    Parker failed to score like a champ, but at least he took care of the in basketball despite hurting his hamstring. He was the only dude on the team doing that right all series. Parker needs more help from the rest of the backcourt. He isn't gonna carry the whole in backcourt for the entire season and postseason.

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    OP, no. I think you mean you can't win with a bed- ting, unreliable, sloppy-playing SG as your 3rd best player and 2nd best ballhandler.

    Parker failed to score like a champ, but at least he took care of the in basketball despite hurting his hamstring. He was the only dude on the team doing that right all series. Parker needs more help from the rest of the backcourt. He isn't gonna carry the whole in backcourt for the entire season and postseason.
    Exactly, two games without TO against the most disruptive defense in the league, game 1 and game 6 the two close ones and we know the game 6 loss was despite him and not because of him...

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    Yes you can. We proved that. It's just very very difficult.

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    yeah, we can. it wasn't parker's fault we lost game six.

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    We completely agree.

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    yeah, we can. it wasn't parker's fault we lost game six.
    Well, he played a part. 6-23 isn't a good outing by any stretch of the imagination.

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    Isiah Thomas
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    Isaiah last won 23 years ago.
    magic was a 6'9 behemoth of a point guard who broke the mold.
    Chauncey was not the best player on the championship Pistons team.

    No team has won with a PG as the best player in 23 seasons. The league has changed. You can't win a le with a PG as your best player.

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    Clearly Tony Parker being both a PG and the Spurs best player is what made Ray Allen's miracle 3 go in.

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    Yes I know we were close but looking at it objectively Parker was not the best player on the team these finals. It was Duncan/Green/Leonard. Parker was shut down most of the time. Maybe my point is instead that you cannot win a championship with such a point-guard dependent offense. In these finals, I thought it was Duncan's team more than Parkers especially in game 6 and 7 when things got tight.

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    The Spurs SHOULD have won this thing in six, and some one-in-a-million things happened to prevent that. They did everything in their power to win, and four or five specific events prevented that (some of them their fault, some of them Miami's ability to execute).

    This is what is killing me on this situation, THEY WERE GOOD ENOUGH to win and it's just totally maddening.

    Let's be honest, with less than 30 seconds in the game, LeBron bricked two of three three point shots and a lack of defensive rebounding cost us the le. Simple as that. He would have been RIPPED if those rebounds went to the Spurs. They didn't. What's done is done now.

    This one will never really go away.

    I hate it for the players, the coaches, the fans.

    Losing in 5 or 6 games by wide margins in the losses is a lot easier to deal with. This thing was fought to a standstill over seven games and it didn't work out. GRRRRR!!!! The Spurs players deserved a better fate than this. The Heat will be in this position again in the near future (in all likelihood). This was the Spurs last stand (in all likeihood with this current cast). It would have been a tale for the ages to defeat Miami - an improbable victory. Instead, the Spurs are left to explain what went wrong and try and pick up the pieces.

    The national media tools like the chumps on M&M in the Morning want to focus on Pop being short with the media for some reason rather than congratulating the Spurs on their great run get to the final game of the season. When you make no effort to point out the steady brilliance of the Spurs for years and years and years, why should POP have to delve into his deepest thoughts to them after what has got to be as disappointing a series loss as he will ever have. Did ESPN want POP to cry up there? I don't know what they expect - Pop congratulated the opponent and gave them credit. He refused to throw his players under the bus. He refused to give them what they wanted.

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    2007 says o

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    We completely agree.

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    This.

    Likewise, suns would have won 07 championship if Stern hadnt suspended Amare and Boris.

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    This.

    Likewise, suns would have won 07 championship if Stern hadnt suspended Amare and Boris.
    Nah, the spurs would have won that series anyhow.

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    It's not impossible but very improbable. 2007, everyone knows Duncan was the best player on that team and Ginobili was still an all star. In 2004, Billups had 3 other all stars. Isiah Thomas? That was a different era. The way the Spurs are structured where Parker is supposed to be the best player... that won't end well. Players have become more athletic and players in the wing position have the quickness and length to keep up with even the fastest point guards. Once Parker's penetration is cut off, the majority of the Spurs offense is gone. Most of the Spurs offense is based on Parker's penetrating ability because that opens up shots for the shooters. Without that, it'll be a 38 year old Duncan posting up or Ginobili turning the ball over.

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    Maybe my point is instead that you cannot win a championship with such a point-guard dependent offense.
    Maybe your point should be that it doesn't matter what position your best player is so long as your team outperforms your opponent's team.

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    This is ridiculous. Blame every where. They 28 secs away from the championship. We almost did win with an injured tp

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    Are you ing dumb? The highest concentration of fluke prevented the Heat from losing game 6.

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    Yes I know we were close but looking at it objectively Parker was not the best player on the team these finals. It was Duncan/Green/Leonard. Parker was shut down most of the time. Maybe my point is instead that you cannot win a championship with such a point-guard dependent offense. In these finals, I thought it was Duncan's team more than Parkers especially in game 6 and 7 when things got tight.
    1. Parker injured his hamstring

    2. Among a hundred other things, an 80% FT shooter went 1 for 2 in at the line in the final minute of game 6. If he goes 2 of 2, we win. Was Kawhi destined to miss that free throw because Tony is a point guard?

    Terrible thread, tbh.

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    Exactly, two games without TO against the most disruptive defense in the league, game 1 and game 6 the two close ones and we know the game 6 loss was despite him and not because of him...
    Yep. I am giving Tony credit for being an amazing ballhandler in a series where the rest of the team couldn't hold on to their own balls against Miami if they really wanted them. I'd even go as far as to say there's hardly another player in the NBA I'd rather be handling the ball than Tony.

    Tony carried our backcourt throughout the series. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and say his scoring was diminished because of his hamstring, but even with that he didn't suck. Manu on the other hand. . .I couldn't stand even seeing him on the court half the time. We looked like any time Timmy and Tony weren't on the floor.

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