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No more aging players. Stop living in the past. Do not fall into the same trap as the Lakers did with Nash.
It makes sense. We're into old players, and we can extend his career because of Pop's management of minutes. Give them Cory, and some 2nd round picks. The Cavs offered them 2 2nd round picks. I'm sure we can beat that. And we're in the West.
No more aging players. Stop living in the past. Do not fall into the same trap as the Lakers did with Nash.
The Spurs need to start getting younger. On the same token, if the window is open, and obviously only open for 2-3 years tops, with Timmy and Manu retiring. Maybe it makes sense to load up on aging talent. I dunno. We just need to free up 20+ million in cap space and build up this team. If that's getting Iguodala or Jefferson I'm all for it.
No trading players for old players, if Boston buys him out, sure I'll take him as FA but no other way.
Paul Pierce is on the books for 15 M next year. How do you plan on matching salaries with Boston? Cleveland is way under the cap therefore doesn't have to worry about that aspect.
Just sayin, go read some of the salary threads in the think tank and educate yourself before you start playing with the trade machine.
If Pierce is bought out, adding him in Manu's old role would be perfect and a no-brainer, but he would never agree to it, obviously..
Any team that gets Pierce in a 25-30 minutes per night role is going to get top 5 SF production, tbh..
its about championships
not rebuilding why you can still compete
SA needs to get all the veteran proven players they can
the biggest thing youll notice since the Spurs championship days and today outside of Tim Duncan being in his prime is that the roleplayers constantly disappear in the playoffs
we use to have the Horry's/Bowen/Ellie/Willis/Johnson type guys who would increase their stats in the playoffs
I say bring in Pierce or even more importantly Garnett
Spurs need to bring in the best guys they can for the 1-2 years they have of Duncan and get some rings
id rather get a ring and then hit the lottery to accelerate the rebuild then go ringless and become a treadmill team around some mediocore core
Yes he would bring some much needed youth and invigoration to our group. And he's only owed $15 million next season!
It's true that during are other championship runs the role players were fairly old.
2007: Finley (34), Horry (37), Oberto (32), Bowen (36), Barry (36)
2005: Bowen (34), Horry (35), Barry (34),
2003: Robinson (37), Ferry (36), Bowen (32)
1999: Ellie (35), Elliiot (30), Jackson (31)
that "SPurs need to get younger" bull . Give Duncan all the dependable vets he needs in his last years. That's the only way we're gonna win a championship, and we are really close. We can't just blow it up like you silly dumb wannabe GMs who want to fire and trade everyone left and right.
We'll meet him at the airport with a wheel chair.
Could be wrong, but I thought Boston has the option to buy him out for $5m and let him walk. That would make him a FA.
I would take either or both but only if they are bought out or amnestied and we get them at a cheap price. I wouldn't spend more than the midlevel exception though. Paul Pierce at this point is a much better player than Manu. A lot of things would have to happen so as far as trading with Boston to acquire Garnett or Pierce, not a good idea. We're not rich like the Lakers.
No, you are right. OP didn't know that though.
That fatty is done
More discussion on Pierce here: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...25#post6696925
Question: Would you rather have Pierce or Shawn Marion? Both 35.
I don't think people really understand what happened this season. It doesn't make sense to try to prop open the window with older players when the exact opposite has been the case lately. The Spurs got back to the le because of their youth. Leonard, Green and Splitter joined a team that before had a second-round ceiling and made it a true contender. Why would the team try to relive the McDyess/Jefferson/Bogans years? If the team can't find any young players they like, they should stay over the cap and try to trade for some. If they don't want to do that, they should stand pat. The team will have even more cap space next off-season.
Leonard is the younger better version of Marion
Pierce is a playmaker
played point-forward for Boston once Rondo went down
he can handle Manu's point-forward roles with the bench and make Manu strictly a spot-up shooter and occasional slasher who can make good passes
Marion would be nice since hes still an elite rebounder and the best Lebron/Durant defender in the league
could easily play a lineup with Kawhi guarding a point guard and Marion defending Lebron/Durant and they switch all pick and rolls which would effectively eliminate the pick and roll game from most teams
The Bogans/Jefferson/Mcdyess players were all washed up and still not good players in their prime
Mcdyess was good but the injury made him a Jason Smith type player
theres a huge difference between adding a washed up McDyess and a former MVP caliber player/Finals MVP
^Splitter. Lol.
Yeah, lol, seeing how McDyess really did that much better against Memphis.
I pretty much agree with your assessment but that doesn't mean you don't look at vets. You go after the best player who can help that year. Not saying this was ever plausible but if you switch out Splitter for someone like KG this season the Spurs probably deal with Miami easier this Finals and get through the first 3 rounds the same.
Just an example of a vet move that could be a positive.
I could see that, and in the trade thread in the Think Tank, I brought that very switch up as a possibility. But I don't necessarily agree Garnet would have been better in the playoffs. Sure, if he was healthy, had no ego and had chemistry with everyone, he probably would. But that's not a given thing with a lot of older players. I would make that trade but only because I think Baynes can be a really good backup big with some development.
In general, I'm just saying that the Spurs reopened/reinforced their window because they got young players who could run (and more importantly, could still improve) instead of trying to bring in old wings like Bogans because the vets seem "more ready". I think a player like Prigioni could have really helped against the Heat, and I'd be okay with bringing him in on the cheap. But I don't think trying to spend money on players like Pierce and Re is the way to go. I'd rather spend it on a young player the front office believes can become a fixture for the next several years.
Other players Spurs should focus on:
2013: Tony Allen, Kevin Martin, Millsap, Francisco Garcia, D. West, J. Jack
2014: Thabo Sefolosha, Bogut
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