Blazers have interest in Tiago Splitter

[Chinook]

Blazers need guards...so something like De Colo/Joseph/Bonner/Splitter on a new deal and next years first rounder?

Any deal in which the team could get LA without having to give up the Big Three or New Two would be a great one. Since Portland has been trying to get out of Aldridge's contract (about $30 Million over the next two years), it may not even take that much. If it were some other team, I think Splitter and picks would be enough. But they'll probably want De Colo as well.

No need to include Bonner, though. He'll be long waived by the time Splitter can get S&T'd.

[benefactor]

That's right...his deal is done on June 29th. My mistake.

[benefactor]

I keep forgetting the Spurs actually have cap space too.... Not used to that tbh.

I hope that Splitter/De Colo/picks deal could do it. Nano was a bit of a malcontent late in the year so I could see the Spurs including him.

[Kool Bob Love]

without * of course

And I agree with somebody who said Green + Tiago for Aldridge. Do it RC

Mic check 1 2 1 2.....

Thanks bro.

[TheGreatYacht]

I hope they offer him an outlandish contract and we let him walk tbh.

I see it as a good thing. They're also trying to move Aldridge, so let's hope the Spurs can put two and two together here...

Poor Splitter. Nobody wants him.

[Chinook]

Poor Splitter. Nobody wants him.

I want Splitter back. Saying that I think Aldridge is better is certainly no insult. It's not like I'm saying I'd trade him for Millsap.

[benefactor]

Just to substantiate the Aldridge talk:

League source: three veterans who are candidates to be in deals leading up to, or during NBA draft are the Bulls' Luol Deng, Pacers' Danny Granger and Blazers' Lamarcus Aldridge.

http://sulia.com/ricbucher/f/02c5b17...-64d19f34b477/

[taps]

Aldrige is also very very good and not so injury prone.. They take this as personal offences in portland.

Wow looking at the $30/2 years and realizing manu got close to $15mil this year, it's hard not to wonder. I'm no business man but gotta think that everybody outside of the big 4 could be in the mix for a theoretical Aldridge trade.

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I see it as a good thing. They're also trying to move Aldridge, so let's hope the Spurs can put two and two together here...

I don't buy it. Like almost every player, if someone blows them away, I'm sure they'd trade him, but that's not the same as trying to move him.

Even if they were, unless the Spurs offered Leonard (which they wouldn't), they don't have the assets to acquire him. Sure, they need guards, but Joseph and especially De Colo, are minimal prospects and if they want one that badly, they can just draft whoever is left among Caldwell-Pope, McCollum or Carter-Williams or reach/trade back for Muhammed, Shroeder or Larkin.

[Chinook]

I don't buy it. Like almost every player, if someone blows them away, I'm sure they'd trade him, but that's not the same as trying to move him.

Even if they were, unless the Spurs offered Leonard (which they wouldn't), they don't have the assets to acquire him. Sure, they need guards, but Joseph and especially De Colo, are minimal prospects and if they want one that badly, they can just draft whoever is left among Caldwell-Pope, McCollum or Carter-Williams or reach/trade back for Muhammed, Shroeder or Larkin.

I don't think it'd take that much. I think they're trying to move him during the draft so that they can max Splitter a near-max deal (which they KNOW the Spurs won't match). If they fail at that, then they'll be hard-pressed to pay more than $35 Million a year to their front-court starters (more than $40 Million total). So they'll either have to lower their potential offer to Splitter and risk losing him or find a way to shed salary.

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I don't think it'd take that much. I think they're trying to move him during the draft so that they can max Splitter a near-max deal (which they KNOW the Spurs won't match). If they fail at that, then they'll be hard-pressed to pay more than $35 Million a year to their front-court starters (more than $40 Million total). So they'll either have to lower their potential offer to Splitter and risk losing him or find a way to shed salary.

So let me get this straight: He's too injury prone and too old for their re-build, but Splitter, who's more injury prone and older, isn't? Not only is Splitter obviously not as good, but you can't even make the argument that he makes up for the things Aldridge doesn't do well, because those same things (rebounding and shot blocking), he also doesn't do well.

Center is definitely a hole, but they could wait and see if Howard goes to the Rockets, then attempt to get in on the Asik sweepstakes. They could probably put together a package for Gortat and they could almost certainly lure Mozgov for far cheaper than Splitter. They could also just take Adams and hope that between him and Leonard, one develops into a starter.

[CGD]

Blazer, Mavs, and Hawks were the 3 teams I recall having interest. Any others I'm missing?

[Knoxxx]

I don't think it'd take that much. I think they're trying to move him during the draft so that they can max Splitter a near-max deal (which they KNOW the Spurs won't match). If they fail at that, then they'll be hard-pressed to pay more than $35 Million a year to their front-court starters (more than $40 Million total). So they'll either have to lower their potential offer to Splitter and risk losing him or find a way to shed salary.

Are you kidding me, a max deal for Splitter!

[Brunodf]

Wow looking at the $30/2 years and realizing manu got close to $15mil this year, it's hard not to wonder. I'm no business man but gotta think that everybody outside of the big 4 could be in the mix for a theoretical Aldridge trade.

Manu turned down a max contract from Denver to stay in San Antonio...

[rascal]

S&T him with Danny for Aldridge because I can dream.

That is a no brainer. Would you trade Leonard and Splitter for Aldridge? Trades have to hurt a little if you want to land a top player from another team.

[Chinook]

So let me get this straight: He's too injury prone and too old for their re-build, but Splitter, who's more injury prone and older, isn't? Not only is Splitter obviously not as good, but you can't even make the argument that he makes up for the things Aldridge doesn't do well, because those same things (rebounding and shot blocking), he also doesn't do well.

Center is definitely a hole, but they could wait and see if Howard goes to the Rockets, then attempt to get in on the Asik sweepstakes. They could probably put together a package for Gortat and they could almost certainly lure Mozgov for far cheaper than Splitter. They could also just take Adams and hope that between him and Leonard, one develops into a starter.

It's not like we're trying to speculate about Portland's possible interest in Tiago, or their desire to move LA. Both of those things are "known." It's pretty clear, then, that the Blazers would like to move on for Aldridge, and Splitter's the type of player they want to move on with.

As I said in either this or another thread, the team seemed to originally try for a center to play with Aldridge. But now, it seems like they want to get a center to play INSTEAD of Aldrige, who is actually an insanely good center that just doesn't like playing there. I think they want to get a big to player the pick-and-roll with Lillard, and Splitter's about the best in the league at that. So while we all know Splitter isn't as good as Aldridge, Splitter making half as much and some assets probably does seem like a pretty good haul.

Aldridge may be younger than Splitter, but he's also much more overpaid. If the team wants to feature Lillard and just have the bigs be role-players/defenders, then swapping LA for Splitter can be seen as an upgrade.

[Chinook]

Manu turned down a max contract from Denver to stay in San Antonio...

When? If you mean after his rookie deal (the only time he was officially a free agent), he stayed because the Spurs had the biggest offer. Denver did make an offer, but it was no where near the max.

[rascal]

Blazers need guards...so something like De Colo/Joseph/Bonner/Splitter on a new deal and next years first rounder?

The spurs trash for Aldridge. How about including Leonard in that deal. That is what it will take to seriously start to consider any deal for Aldridge.

[Chinook]

Are you kidding me, a max deal for Splitter!

It's not THAT big ($58.9M/4), but it is too big for Splitter. I think Portland could definitely offer a deal that averages seven figures.

[Knoxxx]

Leonard is a no go we all know, that let's stop acting like that's possible.

[rascal]

Leonard is a no go we all know, that let's stop acting like that's possible.

Then forget about Aldridge. Blazers won't be accepting the Spurs trash for one of their best players.

[DesignatedT]

Splitter + Green + De Colo + Picks for Aldridge.

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It's not like we're trying to speculate about Portland's possible interest in Tiago, or their desire to move LA. Both of those things are "known." It's pretty clear, then, that the Blazers would like to move on for Aldridge, and Splitter's the type of player they want to move on with.

As I said in either this or another thread, the team seemed to originally try for a center to play with Aldridge. But now, it seems like they want to get a center to play INSTEAD of Aldrige, who is actually an insanely good center that just doesn't like playing there. I think they want to get a big to player the pick-and-roll with Lillard, and Splitter's about the best in the league at that. So while we all know Splitter isn't as good as Aldridge, Splitter making half as much and some assets probably does seem like a pretty good haul.

Aldridge may be younger than Splitter, but he's also much more overpaid. If the team wants to feature Lillard and just have the bigs be role-players/defenders, then swapping LA for Splitter can be seen as an upgrade.

The latter isn't known. "Candidate to be in a deal" isn't the same as "trying to move".

If they really wanted a center instead of Aldridge, they could just offer him for the 1st pick and take Len, who'd be a far better fit for their re-build. Another far better trade would be (if Howard signs with the Rockets), Asik, Jones and a 1st.

I disagree about Aldridge being a center. Even though he's got the size and strength for it, he's not nearly good enough as a defensive rebounder/rim protector.

In no form or fashion can Splitter for Aldridge be seen as an upgrade for them.

[RD2191]

Why would we get rid of our only real 3 point threat? Green is off limits.

[ElNono]

When? If you mean after his rookie deal (the only time he was officially a free agent), he stayed because the Spurs had the biggest offer. Denver did make an offer, but it was no where near the max.

He's probably referring to 2004...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1835202

The rumored offer was:
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=80221