U.S. Supreme Court Case: Fisher v. University of Texas

[Jacob1983]

So stereotyping minorities as stupid, helpless, and dependent on government is okay and justified?

[ElNono]

So stereotyping minorities as stupid, helpless, and dependent on government is okay and justified?

How do you figure?

I thought FWD put it succinctly enough: this isn't about race, it's about socioeconomic conditions. It just so happens that those in minorities largely are at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder.

[DarrinS]

I don't know about Indians, but Asians are dominating the UCLA campus now that AA been banned there.

Here's some more interesting info:



http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Educati...ns-at-colleges

And?


If Asian students are outperforming other students, so be it. Unless you think that Asian students come from some "privaledged" background that gives them an unfair advantage. Lol.

[boutons_deux]

from questioning in SCOTUS today, sounds like the JINOs are gonna kill affirmative action.

[Juggity]

white persecution complex

[boutons_deux]

Supreme Court justices skeptical of affirmative action for college


http://touch.latimes.com/#section/40.../p2p-72826423/

[DMX7]

And?


If Asian students are outperforming other students, so be it. Unless you think that Asian students come from some "privaledged" background that gives them an unfair advantage. Lol.

The Asians have a great work ethic, but they are certainly not coming from the background of blacks/hispanics. Generally speaking, they are more privileged. Many of the asians are also international students, especially from China which means they're likely to be only children and their parents are likely to be affluent enough to pay for their school and test prep... in addition to being affluent enough to send their child oversees to go to school.

But you're deliberately missing my point anyway...

[Wild Cobra]

they are certainly not coming from the background of blacks/hispanics

I'm getting pretty tired of this cop-out.

[DMX7]

I'm getting pretty tired of this cop-out.

So why aren't underrepresented minorities making it on their own without AA or some other form of it? Are they just lazy/dumb?

[Wild Cobra]

So why aren't underrepresented minorities making it on their own without AA or some other form of it? Are they just lazy/dumb?

Are you saying it doesn't happen?

What evidence do you have?

[DarrinS]

The Asians have a great work ethic, but they are certainly not coming from the background of blacks/hispanics. Generally speaking, they are more privileged. Many of the asians are also international students, especially from China which means they're likely to be only children and their parents are likely to be affluent enough to pay for their school and test prep... in addition to being affluent enough to send their child oversees to go to school.

But you're deliberately missing my point anyway...

If the Asian kid lives in the same neighborhood and goes to the same school, are they more affluent?

[Yonivore]

I'm with Justice Roberts on this one; the best way to end racial discrimination is to end racial discrimination.

[LnGrrrR]

If you look at Texas's top 10% automatic admission that is also unfair. Take a small town school in south Texas where the graduating classes are small and the classes are full of low achieving at risk kids and it's easy to be top 10%. Compare that to a school like Reagan where they may be graduating 800 kids and the academic compe ion is fierce. There are probably kids in the second quarter at Reagan that would be valedictorians at Poteet.

Edit. I see FWD is addressing this point. There is no easy way to do college admissions.

It certainly doesn't seem fair that an academically superior student would end up having to go to a second tier college when less able students get auto admitted to UT, A&M, Tech etc.

You could argue that it's "fair" in the sense that people voted in people to make those laws.

[DMX7]

Are you saying it doesn't happen?

What evidence do you have?

My previous reference to what happened at UCLA when AA was eliminated.

[DMX7]

We win!!!

http://www.utexas.edu/know/2013/06/2...her-ut-austin/

Supreme Court punted! Blue team wins again! If an actual decision had been reached, we would have most certainly lost. Now, however, the case goes back to the appellate court where UT will kick ass and win again.

In yo face!

[DMX7]

If the Asian kid lives in the same neighborhood and goes to the same school, are they more affluent?

Just noticed this comment, but I will dignify your stupid question with a rhetorical question. How many asians do you see living in the neighborhoods of blacks/hispanics?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

lol tiny wedge issues like affirmative action fake liberals focus on

[DMX7]

lol tiny wedge issues like affirmative action fake liberals focus on

Nah, it's an actual policy issue -- especially important here in Texas with the number of minorities.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Nah, it's an actual policy issue -- especially important here in Texas with the number of minorities.

It's an issue like gay marriage that Obama uses to distract liberals from his track record on economic and foreign policy. Granted, both sides of the aisle use it as a wedge issue. It's an effective tool for Republicans to convince poor white people other minorities are why their lives suck.

[Wild Cobra]

So.

The supreme court supports racism. The belief that minorities need help because they can't compete on a level playing field is racism...

[Capt Bringdown]

[DMX7]

So.

The supreme court supports racism. The belief that minorities need help because they can't compete on a level playing field is racism...

The playing field is not level without affirmative action -- even then it's fair from perfect.

[angrydude]

So.

The supreme court supports racism. The belief that minorities need help because they can't compete on a level playing field is racism...

They overturned a big part of the voting rights act today. lol.

[boutons_deux]

the VRA gutting is much more important to VRWC SCOTUS than affirmative action, because of its electoral impact in aiding gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc, esp in purple states. Won't help much in red states, they're ed up red already.

[DMX7]

I can't believe it's been two whole years since it was ruled on.

Sadly, it's going back to the Supreme Court and this time AA may go down.