I'm curious if there were actual neighborhood watch volunteers who actually went on patrol shifts. It still seems like this "neighborhood watch" was Zimmerman being a 6 year old in an adult's body who wanted to play cops and robbers.
so happy they allowed the previous 911 calls to be played. the jury will see that zimmerman's frustrations were becoming more intense with each call. the night he saw tray walking in the rain was his breaking point. "they always get away". instead of staying in the car like he always did, he decided to take matters in his own hands that night.
he sent out an email praising the workers for following the su ious person but he didn't suggest anyone follow su ious people. You call that great testimony?
It's totally irrelevant testimony. Just the HOA trying to cover their ass.
You guys crack me up. No matter what his motive for joining he was an official neighborhood watch guy that went through the program and was registered with the popo.
If this is the best the prosecutor can bring to prove motive he is royally ed.
Yeah I agree with you there, idk how the that can be considered good testimony
It's totally irrelevant testimony. Just the HOA trying to cover their ass.
What specific authority does that give him he otherwise wouldn't have?
The only real shot Zimmerman has at getting convicted imo is if the prosecution can catch him in a few lies or one major lie and completely kill his credibility. Otherwise I agree with you he's getting found not guilty.
Zimmerman was an asshole and shouldn't have followed Martin. Totally agree. Kick him off the neighborhood watch.Yeah I agree with you there, idk how the that can be considered good testimony
What specific authority does that give him he otherwise wouldn't have?
That has nothing to do with whether it was a good self defense shoot under the law.
Agreed on all points tbh, my original post was more a general inquiry. If it came across as me saying it could be an argument the prosecution uses then my bad not what the intent was.
Just to add to this, the defense saying "Thank god Zimmerman had a gun" was such a royal up that a few more might give the prosecution life it otherwise wouldn't have had. The smug look Zimmerman has on his face while Martin's parents are crying also isn't doing him any favors. That kind of trivial might seem pointless but jurors notice it.
If everyone could see this recent story, I'd bet they'd ALL want a neighborhood watch program:
Terrifying New Jersey home invasion and beating caught on homeowner's nanny cam (VIDEO)
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...#ixzz2XFPRDD29
court is on recess, and will be back in 10 mins. i'm gonna go get a acai bowl but will be back with more updates.
Oh, it's definitely an argument the prosecution will use because they have nothing else. People like Trill are just blind to the fact that it was a politically motivated prosecution and the prosecution has nothing.
2:43 p.m. ET: Prosecutor Guy gives Smith more evidence to examine including Martin's watch and the tools used to take scrapings from underneath Martin's fingers.
2:40 p.m. ET: Smith says she is not responsible for determining who a fingerprint belongs to. She also tested the Skittles bag and flashlight for DNA. She tested the flashlight for fingerprints and was unable to find any. She also didn't find fingerprints on the plastic bags or the small flashlight attached to the keys.
2:35 p.m. ET: Smith describes how she captures latent fingerprints. She was able to lift one fingerprint from Zimmerman's firearm.
2:32 p.m. ET: Smith shows jurors the gun that Zimmerman used to shoot Martin (the red is the gun's lock). She also shows them Zimmerman's holster. The gun's grip, trigger and back part of the slide were processed by Smith for touch DNA.
2:27 p.m. ET: Smith examines the packaging for the jacket, shirt and pants Zimmerman gave her that night.
2:25 p.m. ET: Prosecutor Guy shows the photos Smith took of Zimmerman, including photos of his head, hands and clothes. She also packaged all of his clothing.
2:21 p.m. ET: Smith took photos of Zimmerman at the police station. Prosecutor Guy walks through those photos with her.
2:19 p.m. ET: The s casing was found by using a metal detector, according to Smith. She searched along the sidewalk and in between the buildings for blood evidence. She says she used a flashlight to look and didn't locate any blood at the scene (not even where Martin's body was found).
2:17 p.m. ET: Smith shows jurors several exhibits including the soft drink and Skittles Martin bought that night, a flashlight found on the scene, plastic bags given to the patrol sergeant to seal Martin's gunshot wound.
2:10 p.m. ET: Smith says she returned the next day to photograph the scene in the daylight. The ground was still wet, according to Smith.
2:07 p.m. ET: Prosecutor Guy is going over more photos with Smith including images of a cell phone, a flashlight, a button on Martin's sweatshirt, Martin's gunshot wound and the soft drink Martin bought that night. Zimmerman looks away as a close-up of Martin's face is displayed in court.
2:02 p.m. ET: Smith is also using the diagram to show jurors where different photos were taken at the crime scene.
1:59 p.m. ET: Smith walks jurors through a diagram of the crime scene and shows them where different pieces of evidence were found.
1:55 p.m. ET: Smith says she starts by photographing a scene. She does it in stages -- first without evidence markers and then with evidence markers. Some of her photos show how it was raining that night. Her diagram was used to make a computerized rendition of the crime scene.
1:52 p.m. ET: The attorneys are at a sidebar with the judge.
1:50 p.m. ET: Smith responded to the scene where Martin was shot at around 7:55 p.m. ET. The scene had been taped off and they were experiencing rain showers on and off. It had been raining prior to her arrival.
1:47 p.m. ET: The prosecution calls Diana Smith to the witness stand. She is a crime scene technician with the Sanford Police Department.
1:44 p.m. ET: The defense has finished its questioning. The prosecutor asks Raimondo to clarify the conditions that night. Raimondo says it was drizzling. He has been excused.
1:43 p.m. ET: Raimondo says this photo shows the lighting conditions that night. He says the flash makes it a little brighter in the foreground than it really was.
1:38 p.m. ET: Raimondo is walking through the map of Zimmerman's neighborhood and the photos of Martin's body. Defense attorney O'Mara is asking him about the lighting conditions and the position of Martin's body. Raimondo says Martin was found facing down.
1:35 p.m. ET: Defense attorney O'Mara is asking Raimondo about his background and why he wanted to become a cop. Raimondo says he comes from a family of law enforcement.
"I think we all want to make a difference in our community, sir. You do what you can, when you can, and you just try and influence the audience you have in front of you," said Raimondo. He also says it has been rewarding for him. The prosecution objects to this line of questioning and O'Mara moves on.
1:33 p.m. ET: Prosecutor Guy shows two photos of Martin's body after he was pronounced dead -- one is a close-up image. Guy points out the CPR mask. He also shows photos of Martin's body once the blanket was placed over it. Another photo shows the grocery bag Raimondo was going to use to seal Martin's chest wound. The prosecution has finished its direct examination.
Martin's dad, Tracy, leaves the courtroom as the photos are displayed. His mother, Sybrina Fulton, remained by avoided looking at the photos. She eventually leaves the courtroom as well.
1:30 p.m. ET: Raimondo couldn't find an exit wound so he put Martin down on his back and continued CPR. When rescuers arrived, they hooked up an EKG machine to Martin. He was pronounced dead on the scene. Raimondo put an emergency blanket on Martin's body out of respect for Martin and his family and to preserve evidence.
1:27 p.m. ET: Raimondo heard bubbling sounds from Martin's chest. He asked the crowd for plastic wrap and Vaseline, which he would use to try and seal the chest wound. A bystander gave him a grocery bag. Raimondo raised Martin to a seated position so he could seal the exit wound on Martin's back first.
1:25 p.m. ET: Raimondo took Martin's pulse on his neck and says he didn't find anything. He moved his body onto his back and tried for a pulse again and didn't find anything.
"I breathed for Mr. Martin -- or I tried to, sir," said Raimondo.
Standard Operating Producers require him to use a mask but he says he didn't have one with him. He considered the situation to be an "extraordinary cir stance." He later asked for and received a breathing mask.
1:20 p.m. ET: Prosecutor Guy shows Raimondo a map of Zimmerman's neighborhood. Raimondo shows jurors where he entered into the complex and where he parked. He says he angled his lights on the scene because lighting was poor. It was drizzling, according to Raimondo.
1:17 p.m. ET: Raimondo says he heard the call go out for a su ious person. The call was later upgraded to shots fired. He arrived on scene within five minutes.
1:14 p.m. ET: The prosecution calls Sergeant Anthony Raimondo to the stand. He's the training coordinator for the Sanford Police Department. He's also on the Seminole County SWAT unit. He was a patrol sergeant the night Martin was shot.
1:10 p.m. ET: The jury is now being seated.
1:09 p.m. ET: The attorneys are at the judge's bench and testimony is in a holding pattern.
1:03 p.m. ET: The defense attorneys have left to go into a conference room just outside the courtroom. The judge is on the bench and the jury has not been seated yet.
they showed tray's lifeless body in the courtroom. it got so emotional his father left and members of the jury's were visibly shaken and crying. warning graphic photo below
they showed tray's lifeless body in the courtroom. it got so emotional his father left and members of the jury's were visibly shaken and crying. warning graphic photo below
Cops should have probably bagged his hands right away in order to keep any evidence from being washed away by the rain.
1:30 p.m. ET: Raimondo couldn't find an exit wound so he put Martin down on his back and continued CPR. When rescuers arrived, they hooked up an EKG machine to Martin. He was pronounced dead on the scene. Raimondo put an emergency blanket on Martin's body out of respect for Martin and his family and to preserve evidence.
so, george runs him down, starts pulling his gun and little trayvon fights for his life.
it seems this way in a nuts to me.
3:34 p.m. ET: The firearm, Skittles bag and flashlight were all tested for touch DNA, according to Smith. She performed the latent print examination after taking the swabs.
3:31 p.m. ET: West asks about the swabs Smith used in the case. She says they're sent to the laboratory, not the item itself. Smith also says the swabs don't say where they were taken on an item.
3:29 p.m. ET: Smith takes a look at Martin's pants, which are displayed in court, and says they look like the pants she collected.
3:25 p.m. ET: Defense attorney West asks if chemicals were used on the sidewalk to reveal the presence of blood. Smith says chemicals weren't used.
3:23 p.m. ET: Smith says she may have taken photos of Martin's body when the medical examiner's office arrived, but she's not sure. She says she can't recall if she removed the blanket from Martin's body to take pictures.
3:19 p.m. ET: Smith says she didn't think the evidence had been tampered with before her arrival.
3:14 p.m. ET: West asks Smith to estimate the distance between two evidence markers. She says she's unable to do that.
3:12 p.m. ET: Defense attorney Don West begins his cross-examination by asking Smith if she has ever been on patrol with her husband, who also works for the Sanford Police Department. She says she has been on ride-alongs with him.
we don't know when Z drew the gun, or when M saw it. If M saw the gun before it was drawn, he had every right to Defend His Ground, go on offense as best defense, against the blatant threat he perceived from an armed stalker.
If the parents keep getting up everyday and leaving the courtroom the defense will have a legitimate objection to have them permanently removed. It is prejudicial to the defense.
Defense and the tech just went over a laundry list of damage to GZ's head. Brutal. I'm kind of surprised GZ waited as long as he did before he shot TM.
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